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To think maternity leave looks lovely

524 replies

gillardd · 16/10/2023 19:55

I like my job but it’s stressful. I’m probably unable to have children. I see mums with babies in the park pushing their strollers together, or having tea and cake with their babies together at a nice cafe, and it just looks so idyllic. No work stress, husband or partner funding things (if you have one - I acknowledge not everyone does), gorgeous chubby silky haired baby to cuddle all day, able to do things like nice cafes during the middle of weekdays when they’re not busy, sit as long as you want, chat to friend, cuddle baby, eat cake. Then go home, cuddle baby some more, maybe watch some TV.

It’s not actually (all) like this, is it? But this is how it looks from the outside.

I know some people are going to tell me IABVU.

OP posts:
Wolfen · 19/10/2023 14:51

Mine was like that but it was also balanced out by sleepless night, utter exhaustion, crying because all my large post maternity tops had sick on them and I had nothing else to change into one day and crying another day because I'd not spoken to anyone for 2 days. Also crying because dh decided to get into bed with his laptop one night and that was so selfish of him because how the hell could he expect me to sleep with the light glaring at me?
And so on.
So yes, lovely on those days when the baby let me sleep and it was sunny and I had friends to hang out with but also lots of crying.

Takemeawayy · 19/10/2023 15:12

My job is 100x easier than my maternity leave. Sure for some it may be bliss but I have a reflux, allergy baby who won’t eat and screams. A. Lot. Spend a day with me and it will put you off I promise

HoneyBadger525 · 19/10/2023 15:29

SunRainStorm · 19/10/2023 11:36

What a journey you had Flowers

How is your son now?

He’s doing well thanks 😊A long way to go but being home has been a game changer xx

mydogismyfirstborn · 19/10/2023 15:42

I thought my maternity leave could be this way, with baby groups and coffee shops and getting my nails done, and I have been blessed with (so far) a very easy baby. Yes she wakes in the night and is a bit refluxy but she's generally pretty settled and happy, so sitting in coffee shops etc has never been challenging in that respect and I've had the energy to enjoy my time. Finances however are a very different story. I've only actually been able to meet with friends for coffee 4 times in almost 4 months, and only because I've managed to scrape together pennies from surveys or selling things on vinted. I get £110 a week maternity allowance, we are in debt on major bills like the council tax and energy, we are scrimping on groceries as best we can and are struggling to put petrol in the car, but I'm now going back to work the day my little girl turns 4 months. I feel robbed of my time with her knowing I'll never get maternity with her again, she'll never be this little again and robbed of my dream mat leave. The money stress has been unreal.

Sellingbedtime · 19/10/2023 16:04

Maternity leave is just like every other chapter in a person's life, there are high highs and low lows😂
Its always just the perceived idea someone else's life is better

Lilyburnspotts · 19/10/2023 17:07

I'm with the first comment: hahaha.

MyMiniMetro · 19/10/2023 17:17

THE toughest thing about being a new parent on maternity/paternity leave is getting people to understand how tough and all encompassing it is. Often those people include our own partner.

Every mum you see sitting in the coffee shop happily eating cake, will have spent an hour preparing to leave the house and has had to pack the equivalent of a weekend back to drag around with her. There would have been a nappy change a feed, maybe pumping or making extra bottles to take with. Probably a last-minute nappy change.... that always happens. This mum tucking into her cake, will have had a last minute dash around to put dishes in the dishwasher and clothes in the washing machine so, to the partner due home in a few hours, it looks like she's done some sort of housework. Because that's what the partner always expects, you're home all day you do housework, making no allowance the fact that the child is literally stuck to your chest for most of the day. Babies either don't want you to put them down or they're feeding. You really can't do anything when you have a baby attached to your chest, and trust me I bought a very expensive baby carrier to see what I could manage to do with my hands free, and it's still not a lot.

But onto this cake. No doubt this is the first thing she's eaten since breakfast because every time she thinks to go and eat something the baby cries or need something. Hot food is out of the question if you're holding your baby at the same time. This often leaves such a unappealing selection of cold-can-eat-with-one-hand food, many mums just don't bother. That cake eating mum is probably starving and this is her first food in hours.

Coffee shops are an expensive way to get a cuppa and a cake but they do offer the opportunity to sit around other people. And that mum will really want to sit around other people. Being at home with the baby all day wouldn't be so bad if partner came home at the end of the working day and wanted to engage in conversation, but inevitably they're knackered and just want to sit quietly watching TV or playing games. Any friends or family who come around just want to talk about and fuss over a baby, something the mum desperately wants a break from.

And this is life for 3-12 months. I want to say it gets easier, it doesn't. Yes it gets to a point where the baby is okay with you putting them down, but only so they can crawl themselves into all sorts of trouble if you're not watching them, literally every second. My daughter was happily sat on the sofa, I had my back to her for long enough to put a book back on a bookshelf, and she threw herself head-first off the sofa and landed on her head with a bang that was audible... so add the odd A&E trip to that maternity leave.

Work is a lot less stressful and at least you get to have a lunch break. That was the bit I resented most about my partner, the fact he got to have a lunch break. I was so jealous at his being able to have a quiet bite to eat or a stroll around some shops without having to pack for every eventuality first. Yeah, even though I wasn't working, that first year was very much my toughest year. And my daughter slept through the night at a very early age so I didn't even have to contend with ridiculous amounts of sleep deprivation that others have.

Questions 😁

AnneLovesGilbert · 19/10/2023 17:33

I have questions.

Why don’t you speak for yourself rather than as though you speak for every mum?
Why does it take so long to leave the house?

Mainly just why so many assumptions about how all mums you see around you are the same as you?

A lot of posters are hell bent on dictating as universal absolute fact that all women loathe maternity leave and are suffering silently, it’s strange.

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AllTheChaos · 19/10/2023 17:51

@lesserspotted Im guessing you didn’t have a horrendous birth, sick child with additional needs, and a partner that walked out? A child can be much wanted and loved, and the mother can still have a hellish time.

NorthernSarcasticandDownrightFantastic · 19/10/2023 18:38

gillardd · 16/10/2023 19:55

I like my job but it’s stressful. I’m probably unable to have children. I see mums with babies in the park pushing their strollers together, or having tea and cake with their babies together at a nice cafe, and it just looks so idyllic. No work stress, husband or partner funding things (if you have one - I acknowledge not everyone does), gorgeous chubby silky haired baby to cuddle all day, able to do things like nice cafes during the middle of weekdays when they’re not busy, sit as long as you want, chat to friend, cuddle baby, eat cake. Then go home, cuddle baby some more, maybe watch some TV.

It’s not actually (all) like this, is it? But this is how it looks from the outside.

I know some people are going to tell me IABVU.

I love my job, but it comes with a lot of responsibility (children's services based).

Maternity leave is an absolute doss.

7 months in though, I'm bored quite a bit.. And thats after 5 holidays, lunch out once or twice a week with friends or my mum, and a husband that only works 4 days so lots of time to go fell walking/kayaking/city breaks/do hobbies we don't usually have the time or energy for... my brain feels a bit dusty still, and my finances are atrocious (see above re meals out, cocktail lunches, spa days etc not to mention baby costs!)

Turns out I'm really not a cheap date 🙃

NorthernSarcasticandDownrightFantastic · 19/10/2023 18:40

MyMiniMetro · 19/10/2023 17:17

THE toughest thing about being a new parent on maternity/paternity leave is getting people to understand how tough and all encompassing it is. Often those people include our own partner.

Every mum you see sitting in the coffee shop happily eating cake, will have spent an hour preparing to leave the house and has had to pack the equivalent of a weekend back to drag around with her. There would have been a nappy change a feed, maybe pumping or making extra bottles to take with. Probably a last-minute nappy change.... that always happens. This mum tucking into her cake, will have had a last minute dash around to put dishes in the dishwasher and clothes in the washing machine so, to the partner due home in a few hours, it looks like she's done some sort of housework. Because that's what the partner always expects, you're home all day you do housework, making no allowance the fact that the child is literally stuck to your chest for most of the day. Babies either don't want you to put them down or they're feeding. You really can't do anything when you have a baby attached to your chest, and trust me I bought a very expensive baby carrier to see what I could manage to do with my hands free, and it's still not a lot.

But onto this cake. No doubt this is the first thing she's eaten since breakfast because every time she thinks to go and eat something the baby cries or need something. Hot food is out of the question if you're holding your baby at the same time. This often leaves such a unappealing selection of cold-can-eat-with-one-hand food, many mums just don't bother. That cake eating mum is probably starving and this is her first food in hours.

Coffee shops are an expensive way to get a cuppa and a cake but they do offer the opportunity to sit around other people. And that mum will really want to sit around other people. Being at home with the baby all day wouldn't be so bad if partner came home at the end of the working day and wanted to engage in conversation, but inevitably they're knackered and just want to sit quietly watching TV or playing games. Any friends or family who come around just want to talk about and fuss over a baby, something the mum desperately wants a break from.

And this is life for 3-12 months. I want to say it gets easier, it doesn't. Yes it gets to a point where the baby is okay with you putting them down, but only so they can crawl themselves into all sorts of trouble if you're not watching them, literally every second. My daughter was happily sat on the sofa, I had my back to her for long enough to put a book back on a bookshelf, and she threw herself head-first off the sofa and landed on her head with a bang that was audible... so add the odd A&E trip to that maternity leave.

Work is a lot less stressful and at least you get to have a lunch break. That was the bit I resented most about my partner, the fact he got to have a lunch break. I was so jealous at his being able to have a quiet bite to eat or a stroll around some shops without having to pack for every eventuality first. Yeah, even though I wasn't working, that first year was very much my toughest year. And my daughter slept through the night at a very early age so I didn't even have to contend with ridiculous amounts of sleep deprivation that others have.

Questions 😁

Every mum?! Wow...
Takes me 10mins and a small backpack to go away overnight on a whim. Just a nappy change, boil the kettle to fill the flask and we're off?

Baggingarea · 19/10/2023 18:56

I haven't RTFT beyond the first page but I'm on mat leave and it is indeed lovely. Thought we couldn't have kids so this is delightfully unexpected. I have quite an intense, stressful job so it feels like a lovely break! Lots of coffees, cakes, time to do a bit of fitness - all with a nice baby. Yes, you don't get loads of sleep and can be a bit repetitive but is better than being stuck in an office! I suspect this is what lures people into becoming SAHMs.

Ilikepinacoladass · 19/10/2023 19:21

I think it's very very hard for people without children to have any idea of what it's like when you do. I did enjoy mat leave and loved being out and about, going for so many walks in nature (thanks COVID - LOL), and being sociable, buttt it was / is incredibly hard work and draining too. I had a friend who was often suggesting things I could do if I was bored on mat leave (ie set up a business, because she had heard a podcast of someone with a baby who did this), and giving weather updates on way to work as if I was just sitting at home with the baby when in reality I'd been at the park since 8.30am trying to get him to sleep (or just for a run around when he was older) as he'd been up since 5am or something ridiculous. I think no matter how much you try and explain 'it's lovely, but so much harder physically and mentally than you'd expect' it just doesn't really go through, and they always will just think deep down that it's all lovely snuggles, coffees, lazing around, buying lovely baby bits, having loads of fun. Someone from work text me when little one was a few weeks old 'i hope you're enjoying the newborn bubble' and I genuinely had no idea what she was talking about - having had a prem baby with reflux and 2 weeks in SCUB plus lockdown, it was mostly a daily struggle! When she had her own baby she said to me it was totally different to what she had thought and so much harder.

Thereislightattheendofthetunnel · 19/10/2023 19:42

@MyMiniMetro

That is a very accurate picture of what I went through.

Add to that an international move to a country where I knew no one other than my partner and I am still wondering how I could hold it together.

JLou08 · 19/10/2023 20:04

And the parents are thinking how amazing if must be for childless couples, luxury holidays where you can relax on the beach, eat and drink in nice restaurants with no stress, come and go as you please at the weekends without worrying about childcare, lie ins at the weekend. More disposable income to treat yourself.
The grass isn't always greener.
That's not to minimise how you feel, if you want a child but are unable to I appreciate that must be very hard but just know that it isn't as perfect as it seems.

MyMiniMetro · 19/10/2023 21:01

AnneLovesGilbert · 19/10/2023 17:33

I have questions.

Why don’t you speak for yourself rather than as though you speak for every mum?
Why does it take so long to leave the house?

Mainly just why so many assumptions about how all mums you see around you are the same as you?

A lot of posters are hell bent on dictating as universal absolute fact that all women loathe maternity leave and are suffering silently, it’s strange.

Well some of this post was an amalgamation of different mums as the hypothetical 'cake eating' mum, because I've worked with hundreds of new parents over the years in mental health services and this isn't simply my experience. It is a fact. Not for everyone of course, but it is so common the NHS provides dedicated mental health support for this group and have a protocol to prioritize new parents when on a waiting list. I appreciate that I work with mums accessing mental health services so proportionally it will be weighted towards the negative but there is an unseen side to maternity leave that is not normalised nearly enough. And the reason for that?

Well look at the responses my comment has elicited. Some real belittling stuff.

It can take an hour or longer to leave the house from deciding to go out because cake eating mum realizes she hasn't had a shower or put on make up yet and she has to do this around baby. Dirty bottles often need to be sterilized and made up before going. Then in her third floor flat she needs to get the pram down the stairs at some point when it is safe to leave baby in a cot while she leaves the flat to do this. All the time terrified that in the two minutes she leaves her child alone in the flat something bad might happen. I mean go on, you could say how she should be more organized etc. and really put the boot in- or we could acknowledge that maternity leave is tough for a lot of parents and offer some empathy and understanding.

AnneLovesGilbert · 19/10/2023 21:19

As you say @MyMiniMetro, the people you’re helping need help. The people having a pleasant time are just getting on with it and you’d never see them.

Some of the replies OP has had to a pretty innocuous post are dismissive, vicious, condescending, judgemental, insensitive and incredibly chippy. People should be able to share positive experiences as much as negative ones. You’re scaring the crap out of any pregnant woman reading this with your 100% certainty that maternity leave is basically a relentless miserable slog.

If you think it’s that awful for the majority of postnatal women why do you think so many take a whole year off?

Custardcream1985 · 19/10/2023 21:29

I SO WANTED mat leave to be like this the first time. I heaped pressure onto myself to meet new people, look put together, have a glorious time etc.

In reality my baby did not sleep well until she was three. I looked like I had been dragged through a hedge backwards. I didn’t want to meet new people because I looked like I lived in my shed. There were such joyful moments each day back then, but they were down to DD being tiny, not the fact I was off work. And they were moments!

Miamonthly · 19/10/2023 21:43

@AnneLovesGilbert

Even though I struggled getting over a caesarean/traumatic birth, difficult breast feeding, baby not sleeping, no support… months 5-9 were good and I got into the swing of things. Then had a major bereavement, milk dried up, and had to cope with going back to work. Second more prepared, but another bad sleeper!!

I think if you bottle feed, have the father around a lot, plus other family it is going to be a breeze (by comparison to baby totally dependent on you for nutrition and so lonely you start to hallucinate tumbleweed in the maternity desert). Add in an easy birth, easy baby, and plenty of financial resources and you have a year long holiday.

But that isn’t reality for everyone….

Miamonthly · 19/10/2023 21:48

NorthernSarcasticandDownrightFantastic · 19/10/2023 18:38

I love my job, but it comes with a lot of responsibility (children's services based).

Maternity leave is an absolute doss.

7 months in though, I'm bored quite a bit.. And thats after 5 holidays, lunch out once or twice a week with friends or my mum, and a husband that only works 4 days so lots of time to go fell walking/kayaking/city breaks/do hobbies we don't usually have the time or energy for... my brain feels a bit dusty still, and my finances are atrocious (see above re meals out, cocktail lunches, spa days etc not to mention baby costs!)

Turns out I'm really not a cheap date 🙃

@NorthernSarcasticandDownrightFantastic

If you are bf how are you managing to do all this??

I would really like another but the thought of being chained to the sofa for cluster feeds hrs on end worries me.

Mummytotwonow · 19/10/2023 22:15

What planet are you on?? 😂

Mumumumumum555 · 19/10/2023 22:16

I bloody hated every moment of mat leave. My son had tongue tie, colic, reflux and screamed for hours. I was desperate to return to work.
I envy people who have had pleasant experiences, but it’s not like that for everyone.

VeronicaFranklin · 19/10/2023 22:36

Mat leave for me was relentless, I was glad to go back to work.

VeronicaFranklin · 19/10/2023 22:38

Mumumumumum555 · 19/10/2023 22:16

I bloody hated every moment of mat leave. My son had tongue tie, colic, reflux and screamed for hours. I was desperate to return to work.
I envy people who have had pleasant experiences, but it’s not like that for everyone.

This was my experience too. My baby had colic and reflux and I spent hours pacing the house, going for walks, people giving me unsolicited advice at how to settle her because it worked for their child back in the 50s.
The number of people that said to me 'I bet you don't want to go back to work' or 'enjoy every moment as they don't stay little for long'
Reality, I spent months being utterly miserable and feeling like I couldn't say anything because I'd be labelled as having PND when in reality I was just a bit lost in motherhood with everyone's expectation on me to be living the dream every day!

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