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There is no Southern Ireland

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Needeyebrows · 13/10/2023 21:34

So sick of hearing people say say Southern Ireland when referring to anywhere outside of Northern Ireland. Any place outside of Northern is the Republic of Ireland. We do not have southern Ireland..

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Elvis1956 · 13/10/2023 23:19

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MaireO · 13/10/2023 23:19

@JaneJeffer 😂😂

Alstroemeria123 · 13/10/2023 23:19

oneleggedspider · 13/10/2023 22:56

I'm from Northern Ireland and we always said 'Down South' but that was in relation to where we lived.. so anywhere south of the border. Wouldn't have referred to Donegal as 'Down South.'

The problem is people using Southern Ireland as if its the name of the country. I now live in the south east of England. I'd never describe myself as living in 'Southern England.' There's a difference.

That’s interesting. I definitely would - and do - describe myself as living in Southern England.

I’d assume Southern Ireland was Cork etc, rather than referring to the country of Ireland.

JaneJeffer · 13/10/2023 23:19

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Calm down Elvis

Doteycat · 13/10/2023 23:20

If I'm asked what part of ireland I'm from, I say what county.
And we dont 'feel like' we gave it away.
It was taken. .

mollyfolk · 13/10/2023 23:20

Ha ha. Drives me mad internally. If I correct them and say the Republic of Ireland it seems a bit combative. In Ireland- the Republic is just called Ireland and in the north they say the south (even if they are talking about Donegal) Southern Ireland sounds like an insult- like they think Ireland is the size of cork 🤣 but of course it is said innocently.

Mooshamoo · 13/10/2023 23:21

Im living in Ireland.

I personally don't care if anyone calls it southern ireland. It doesn't really annoy me.

If I'm in England, they do tend to ask if I'm from the north or the south of Ireland.

Mumofteenandtween · 13/10/2023 23:21

I have a question actually.

What is the legal nationality of people who are from Northern Ireland? I.E what is on their passport?

And is that how they define themselves?

(My mum defines herself and me and her half Welsh grandchildren as English no matter how many times I tell her that the 4 of us define ourselves as British and despite the fact that we all have British on our passports. MIL is equally determined that the kids are Welsh.)

Fieldofbrokenpromises · 13/10/2023 23:22

TheThingIsYeah · 13/10/2023 21:51

My late nan was from Eire and often referred to it as the Free State. Anyone else of a certain vintage do the same?

Aye, my mother in law from Norn Iron always calls it the Free State, and she’s a proddy too.

Doteycat · 13/10/2023 23:22

Mumofteenandtween · 13/10/2023 23:21

I have a question actually.

What is the legal nationality of people who are from Northern Ireland? I.E what is on their passport?

And is that how they define themselves?

(My mum defines herself and me and her half Welsh grandchildren as English no matter how many times I tell her that the 4 of us define ourselves as British and despite the fact that we all have British on our passports. MIL is equally determined that the kids are Welsh.)

Oh ffs.
Have u heard of the Good Friday agreement?
Look it up.

Mooshamoo · 13/10/2023 23:23

Doteycat · 13/10/2023 23:20

If I'm asked what part of ireland I'm from, I say what county.
And we dont 'feel like' we gave it away.
It was taken. .

I live in Ireland too.

I didn't say "we feel like we gave it away".

I said "we feel like we had to give up northern Ireland".

TeenLifeMum · 13/10/2023 23:24

@JaneJeffer but I live in South West England and that is always capped.

Bearonthestair · 13/10/2023 23:24

Mumofteenandtween · 13/10/2023 23:21

I have a question actually.

What is the legal nationality of people who are from Northern Ireland? I.E what is on their passport?

And is that how they define themselves?

(My mum defines herself and me and her half Welsh grandchildren as English no matter how many times I tell her that the 4 of us define ourselves as British and despite the fact that we all have British on our passports. MIL is equally determined that the kids are Welsh.)

Fuck me!

JaneJeffer · 13/10/2023 23:24

They can choose to be Irish or British @Mumofteenandtween

Mooshamoo · 13/10/2023 23:24

Mumofteenandtween · 13/10/2023 23:21

I have a question actually.

What is the legal nationality of people who are from Northern Ireland? I.E what is on their passport?

And is that how they define themselves?

(My mum defines herself and me and her half Welsh grandchildren as English no matter how many times I tell her that the 4 of us define ourselves as British and despite the fact that we all have British on our passports. MIL is equally determined that the kids are Welsh.)

All Northern Irish people are entitled to hold both an Irish passport and a UK passport

JaneJeffer · 13/10/2023 23:25

TeenLifeMum · 13/10/2023 23:24

@JaneJeffer but I live in South West England and that is always capped.

We are not English here.

ColleenDonaghy · 13/10/2023 23:25

Mumofteenandtween · 13/10/2023 23:21

I have a question actually.

What is the legal nationality of people who are from Northern Ireland? I.E what is on their passport?

And is that how they define themselves?

(My mum defines herself and me and her half Welsh grandchildren as English no matter how many times I tell her that the 4 of us define ourselves as British and despite the fact that we all have British on our passports. MIL is equally determined that the kids are Welsh.)

People born in NI are entitled to either or both British or Irish nationality, they get to choose. Whatever they identify as will be the answer.

This is very important and has, um, been in the news a little over the past few years.

Doteycat · 13/10/2023 23:25

Mooshamoo · 13/10/2023 23:23

I live in Ireland too.

I didn't say "we feel like we gave it away".

I said "we feel like we had to give up northern Ireland".

I stand corrected.
Apologies.

Mooshamoo · 13/10/2023 23:26

Doteycat · 13/10/2023 23:22

Oh ffs.
Have u heard of the Good Friday agreement?
Look it up.

I think it's okay to ask. Not everyone knows everything.

Fieldofbrokenpromises · 13/10/2023 23:26

Mumofteenandtween · 13/10/2023 23:21

I have a question actually.

What is the legal nationality of people who are from Northern Ireland? I.E what is on their passport?

And is that how they define themselves?

(My mum defines herself and me and her half Welsh grandchildren as English no matter how many times I tell her that the 4 of us define ourselves as British and despite the fact that we all have British on our passports. MIL is equally determined that the kids are Welsh.)

Most people born on the Island of Ireland have the choice to apply for an Irish passport if they wish, so they can pretty much decide for themselves.

TeenLifeMum · 13/10/2023 23:26

@JaneJeffer er, no I didn’t say you were. I’m simply speaking about how writing Southern Ireland capped up is consistent with how you’d write it for other countries to refer to a specific part of that country.

Doteycat · 13/10/2023 23:27

Mooshamoo · 13/10/2023 23:26

I think it's okay to ask. Not everyone knows everything.

Everyone in Ireland knows the answer to this question.
And so should everyone in the UK.

JaneJeffer · 13/10/2023 23:28

And so should everyone in the UK.
But if they don't then they're entitled to a polite response. No need for all the ffsing. It's good that people want to learn.

TreaterAnita · 13/10/2023 23:30

I’ve voted YANB because you’re not, but my mum still refers to Southern Ireland and she’s married to a man whose dad came here from Cork. It’s not a political statement, it’s what the republic was called when she was growing up.

ColleenDonaghy · 13/10/2023 23:30

Remember this? Grin Channel 4 asking people in the streets to draw the border in the aftermath of the Brexit vote? Grin

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/935599685611515904

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/935599685611515904