There is no Southern Ireland

[Needeyebrows]

So sick of hearing people say say Southern Ireland when referring to anywhere outside of Northern Ireland. Any place outside of Northern is the Republic of Ireland. We do not have southern Ireland..

What about a staunch republican from Northern Ireland? Because I guarantee you they would feel no affinity to you. Ireland is foreign to the uk though. Just because there is a common travel agreement doesn’t mean that it’s not a different country.

Irish citizens currently have the most freedom of movement in Europe.

We can move to the U.K without a visa. No other E.U country can do that.

We can also move to any country in the E.U. without a visa. The U.K can't do that.

Not citizens. A right to live in each country, but no automatic right to citizenship. That has to be applied for and relevant criteria met, including residency time.

No we don’t have the right to be citizens of each others countries at all. You could come over here to ROI tomorrow and live here for 20 years and you would still have to go through a citizen process like everyone else. Because ROI is a member of the EU - I can go to France and live there but I’d still be a foreigner.

Yes of course anyone from a different country is a foreigner. I'm just curious as to how a Scottish person feels like a NI person and how a person from Donegal feels like a foreigner but a person from Derry does not.

And I'd like the poster to expand on the first paragraph too actually 😄.

It's interesting to me because we as irish citizens have such freedom have movement.

I was at a meetup group in ROI last week, and two people from Norway and south Africa said to me that they moved to ROI because they cant move to the UK. Because it was too hard for the Norwegian woman, and impossible for the South African man. They wouldn't let him live in England .

It was a little bit annoying to me because the south African man kept saying to me "it's alright for you, you can live in England if you want to".

Sorry my response was really aimed at the quoted post.

Right but we are treated as citizens. No need for visas.

No one who moves from Ireland to England ever applies for citizenship because they are treated with the same rights as the citizens there anyway.

You can’t vote in all elections or referendums. People do apply for citizenship but I can’t imagine it’s very common.

There are differences in voting rights and with Brexit I would expect there will be a change in whether people apply for citizenship or not.

36% of people have now voted that Southern Ireland is indeed that part of the island that's not Northern Ireland.
Curious...
These voters cannot be Irish surely?

This is primarily a UK website, so that result stands to reason really.

Sallysallyu · Today 00:03

I voted for Brexit precisely about the freedom of movement issue.

Hows that working out for you? 🤣

Yes, I suppose. I always find it a bit baffling that people can have strong opinions on subjects about which they know very little.
I know it happens all the time though.

The people get the government they deserve...

*I voted for Brexit precisely about the freedom of movement issue.

For the UK it was basically one-way traffic.*
@Sallysallyu you've obviously not tried to recruit in the hospitality industry or get a kitchen or bathroom fitted recently

I was about to agree with you, then remembered I live in NI

Fair point!!!

This thread has made me think how people refer to the separate parts of the island of Ireland.
Its not something I’ve ever considered as I suppose the referencing comes naturally.
To clarify.
I am the child of Irish Immigrants and have Irish Citizenship

I live in England. 100% of my early years school friends were the same as me as we all went through the school system together and attended the same churches .
So how do we refer to the parts of the island of Ireland.
I did a WhatsApp query and the responses were exactly the same.

Northern Ireland is Northern Ireland….
The rest is Ireland
No one called is Southern Ireland or The Republic of Ireland or anything else.

Meeting an Irish guy for the first time last week I picked up on his accent and asked where he was from. He said Limerick. Not Ireland. He didn’t know my surname so had no idea I would know where Limerick was but interestingly he didn’t say Ireland. Wish I’d asked why now.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone said they were from Birmingham or Glasgow or another city. My colleague is from Coventry.
If someone was from a small town like Southwold or Diss or Mitchelstown they would probably give a county or country?

but interestingly he didn’t say Ireland. Wish I’d asked why now.

He probably thought it would be obvious from his accent.

You’d be amazed how many people over here mistake the Irish accent for Welsh or even occasionally Scottish. Sometimes Newcastle.

My tutor at Uni asked if my dad was from Scotland and he had a strong Tipperary accent.