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There is no Southern Ireland

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Needeyebrows · 13/10/2023 21:34

So sick of hearing people say say Southern Ireland when referring to anywhere outside of Northern Ireland. Any place outside of Northern is the Republic of Ireland. We do not have southern Ireland..

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Droppit · 13/10/2023 22:14

Agree. Case in point: Donegal.

SleepPrettyDarling · 13/10/2023 22:15

I live in Ireland and deal with cross-border agencies for work, and the terms ROI (as in, the initials), NI, the north, and the south are used as common parlance.

Coffeerum · 13/10/2023 22:16

Eh I don’t think it’s that weird. As someone from NI it’s standard to call it “down south” or “the south” so Southern Ireland isn’t really that different.

EggCustardTart · 13/10/2023 22:16

When I lived in Belfast, people would say "the South", "Free State", the republic, Mexico or the 26 counties.

Sinilarly, people would refer "the North" or the "6 counties".

I've only heard "Southern Ireland" from non-Irish people, outside Ireland.

Also, "Eire" is not a slur.

foulksmills · 13/10/2023 22:16

@Neverinamonthofsundays And the rest of the day to yourself 😁

Doteycat · 13/10/2023 22:16

CuppaJoeJojo · 13/10/2023 21:54

Lighten up. People in Ireland say it too.

No they bloody don't.

gelatogina · 13/10/2023 22:17

Doteycat · 13/10/2023 22:16

No they bloody don't.

I mean, read the thread. People from both north and south saying they do.

Lesina · 13/10/2023 22:17

if it helps I refuse to say Northern Ireland. I was born in Belfast which is in the north of Ireland. Like Inverness is in the North of Scotland :)

Neverinamonthofsundays · 13/10/2023 22:18

It is signposted all the way from Belfast city 'The South' so I can see why we get called Southerners.

hellesbells · 13/10/2023 22:19

DustyLee123 · 13/10/2023 22:04

My FIL always said he was from southern Ireland.

Well where was he from in Ireland? he might have been from the south of Ireland, he wasn't from Southern Ireland because there is no such place

cocksstrideintheevening · 13/10/2023 22:19

Droppit · 13/10/2023 22:14

Agree. Case in point: Donegal.

Was just about to say this.

My mum is from NI, my dad is from Ireland.

I remember writing cards to his family many years ag and adding Eire (don't know how to do the fada on my phone), though.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 13/10/2023 22:20

Needeyebrows · 13/10/2023 21:57

Eire is not a slur

Eire means burden. Éire is the irish for Ireland.

CliffsofMohair · 13/10/2023 22:20

Neverinamonthofsundays · 13/10/2023 22:18

It is signposted all the way from Belfast city 'The South' so I can see why we get called Southerners.

I lived with a guy from Belfast and he referred to all of us Southerners as Mexicans.

Saddlesore · 13/10/2023 22:21

Lesina · 13/10/2023 22:17

if it helps I refuse to say Northern Ireland. I was born in Belfast which is in the north of Ireland. Like Inverness is in the North of Scotland :)

Actually, that doesn’t help at all. In fact, it’s rather goady. Belfast is in Northern Ireland. Fact.

JaneJeffer · 13/10/2023 22:21

Nobody Irish says Southern Ireland. They just don't. NI people saying the south is fine because we say the north.

Neverinamonthofsundays · 13/10/2023 22:23

@JaneJeffer yeah but my Irish born Northern Irelander classes himself as Irish and used to class me as Southern Irish. So I started calling him a Brit till he copped on. Only took about 7 years which in man years is not too long at all. Our little cherubs are all Irish bar the fish who I swears bobs in a nordie way.

TartanCulshie · 13/10/2023 22:25

Folk in Cork / Kerry etc. saying they are from Southern Ireland mean it as a compass point direction. Just as in Mayo or Galway it's the West its just a direction and a fact.

The difference is when folk from UK, through ignorance or bigotry, assume if there's Northern Ireland there must be 'Southern Ireland'. As if these are the yin and yang. It usually shows a complete lack of understanding of Irish history and / or politics.

ColleenDonaghy · 13/10/2023 22:26

Saddlesore · 13/10/2023 22:21

Actually, that doesn’t help at all. In fact, it’s rather goady. Belfast is in Northern Ireland. Fact.

Yeah I hate people talking about the North of Ireland tbh. No problem with people not liking NI being part of the UK, but no point in denying the current political reality.

Plus I find it quite offensive as someone from Ireland, I can't put my finger on why but it seems to diminish Ireland's independence somehow.

Lizzieregina · 13/10/2023 22:27

JaneJeffer · 13/10/2023 22:21

Nobody Irish says Southern Ireland. They just don't. NI people saying the south is fine because we say the north.

100% this.

We always refer to NI as “the North” but in all of my many years on this earth, I’ve never heard someone refer to the country of Ireland as “Southern Ireland”. It’s plain old Ireland.

I lived in Donegal for years and we’d frequently go “into the North” to shop.

Nopenoway · 13/10/2023 22:28

Lesina · 13/10/2023 22:17

if it helps I refuse to say Northern Ireland. I was born in Belfast which is in the north of Ireland. Like Inverness is in the North of Scotland :)

But Inverness is in the north of Scotland. Belfast isn’t in the north of Ireland.

GrumpyPanda · 13/10/2023 22:28

malmi · 13/10/2023 22:05

Interestingly there's no actual country named "Republic of Ireland" either (it's just Ireland).

An Irish colleague was quite proud of the fact that "only in Ireland" would the northernmost point be in the South...

Wonderful. Reminds me of an advertising campaign the city of Bremen ran in the 90s, calling itself "Germany's southernmost sea port."

GirlOfTudor · 13/10/2023 22:28

I don't hear it often but when I do I fully agree with you!

FunnysInLaJardin · 13/10/2023 22:28

Interesting, where I am there are a lot of Irish people (Jersey) and they are all either from Northern or Southern Ireland by their own definition

Spookymormonhelldream · 13/10/2023 22:29

Fuxk this drives me insane. At the Post Office, sending a package to Ireland - 'is that to Southern Ireland?' 'Nope to Dublin' 'so Southern Ireland?' 'No'. Etc etc. Just because it's not in Northern Ireland doesn't mean it's automatically called Southern!!

duchiebun · 13/10/2023 22:29

Loads of people don’t realise NI is part of the UK