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There is no Southern Ireland

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Needeyebrows · 13/10/2023 21:34

So sick of hearing people say say Southern Ireland when referring to anywhere outside of Northern Ireland. Any place outside of Northern is the Republic of Ireland. We do not have southern Ireland..

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Mooshamoo · 14/10/2023 22:41

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What about the Catholics in NI. They are very very Irish.

Doteycat · 14/10/2023 22:42

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Is this your version of mansplaining.
Cos it's really patronising.
If we were easily patronised that is.

Shopgirl1 · 14/10/2023 22:43

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You know Great Britain is not actually a country?
I wouldn’t be so sure all NI people identify with British culture and history. You might want to read up on this.

Twoscotcheggsandajarofmarmite · 14/10/2023 22:44

@Sallysallyu why are you so surprised that foreign people feel like foreigners?

LadyBeth · 14/10/2023 22:46

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Again ignoring most... But curious as to what a foreigner feels like? I'd love if you could expand on your points, how exactly does a NI person feels like a Scottish person etc 🤣?

eggandonion · 14/10/2023 22:48

My Belfast Catholic inlaws are as horrified by the idea of a united Ireland as my Northern Ireland protestant family. My friends from NI in the South...I am very far south Munster...think the same.
Not having the NHS and free grammar schools terrify them. So neither part of my family is particularly interested in being Irish.
The parts of my family who would be most Pro Irish are the protestant parts who remained in the Republic after 1921.

eggandonion · 14/10/2023 22:49

Scotland is good for nice cake too...and I like a Welsh cake.

Mooshamoo · 14/10/2023 22:50

I can't see there being a united Ireland in the next three lifetimes anyway.

Shopgirl1 · 14/10/2023 22:54

eggandonion · 14/10/2023 22:48

My Belfast Catholic inlaws are as horrified by the idea of a united Ireland as my Northern Ireland protestant family. My friends from NI in the South...I am very far south Munster...think the same.
Not having the NHS and free grammar schools terrify them. So neither part of my family is particularly interested in being Irish.
The parts of my family who would be most Pro Irish are the protestant parts who remained in the Republic after 1921.

No one is suggesting this…but culturally I don’t believe all NI people see themselves as British. Some do. But a significant number don’t.

eggandonion · 14/10/2023 23:03

I think a lot see themselves as Northern Irish...and possibly Irish but wanting the benefits of being British. It is a dilemma. A hundred year old dilemma.

Twoscotcheggsandajarofmarmite · 14/10/2023 23:09

We don’t want to share our Google money with them anyway 🤣

Sallysallyu · 14/10/2023 23:11

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Twoscotcheggsandajarofmarmite · 14/10/2023 23:21

The big deal is that you think it needs stating that when you visit a foreign country it feels foreign. Are you surprised when you go to France or Spain that the people feel like foreigners? Ireland is a foreign country, this is not an outpost of the UK. We may share a language (mostly) and a Sky TV service but that doesn’t make Ireland the quaint counties of the United Kingdom.

LadyBeth · 14/10/2023 23:21

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"Everything is different, roadsigns" 😂😂😂

Alstroemeria123 · 14/10/2023 23:23

LadyBeth · 14/10/2023 23:21

"Everything is different, roadsigns" 😂😂😂

I kind of want to ask that poster how she feels about the roadsigns in Wales…

Shopgirl1 · 14/10/2023 23:23

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You might feel that, but it isn’t reciprocated in all cases. It is a big deal. Many people have died over this issue. Have the respect to read up on it.

Sallysallyu · 14/10/2023 23:25

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LadyBeth · 14/10/2023 23:27

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You're really not the person to be speaking of ignorant morans...

ColleenDonaghy · 14/10/2023 23:27

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As are British people who think everyone in NI is culturally British or identifies as British.

Sallysallyu · 14/10/2023 23:40

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ColleenDonaghy · 14/10/2023 23:42

And you would still be a foreigner, as would I be if I moved to England.

Twoscotcheggsandajarofmarmite · 14/10/2023 23:43

I could move to France tomorrow with my lovely red EU passport. I’d still be a foreigner.

mollyfolk · 14/10/2023 23:43

LadyBeth · 14/10/2023 22:46

Again ignoring most... But curious as to what a foreigner feels like? I'd love if you could expand on your points, how exactly does a NI person feels like a Scottish person etc 🤣?

They are foreigners though. They come from a different country. Many NI’s feel like foreigners too as they consider themselves to be Irish not British.

Mooshamoo · 14/10/2023 23:44

ColleenDonaghy · 14/10/2023 23:42

And you would still be a foreigner, as would I be if I moved to England.

Ah all the delicate technicalities. It's stressful.

I think with the common travel area, we do have the right to be citizens of each others countries.

So while ROI is technically foreign to the UK, it also has a very strong link to it and the right to live in it.

Mooshamoo · 14/10/2023 23:46

The ommon travel area. It's kind of amazing that everyone still agrees on that.

Seeing as no one can agree on most things with ROI and UK!