To think its not okay to great gazans as israel has been

[LethargicButAwesome]

Gaza has no food, no electricity and no water. On top of that they are being bombarded constantly
Israel has bombed the only escape route for refugees via Egypt, there is no way out
israel continues the blockage by air, land and sea - no aid can get in, no one can get out.
israel has said they will obliterate Gaza.

this is unprecedented, no matter what happens with governments or wars, you have refugee camps…safe havens…(often difficult) access to water - how are we even debating that this is acceptable? Am i the only person thinking this is the human race at its absolute worst? Its heartbreaking to watch, literally noone is doing anything - we are observing a genocide.

Yes just heard this on the radio

I hope it goes ahead

@FurryPaws I think the phrase "fake news" is often loaded in itself.

Just had someone (off Mumsnet) suggest the Palestinians might have bombed their own hospital for sympathy. :( That's the kind of thing people are prepared to believe.

Perhaps this is finally a bridge too far

The Sky presenters look stunned

With footage of burning hospital behind them

Israel is now blaming a failed Hamas rocket launch.

Maybe I'm horribly cynical - not holding my breath on this one -until this actually happens

Unconfirmed as to the cause as per BBC.

If people will recall, the USAF hit an MSF hospital in Kunduz, Afghanistan in 2015. They concluded it was an accident and not a war crime.

Similar might be the case here if Israel's aircraft hit it.

Gaza Health Ministry = Hamas.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36174047

Gaza Health Ministry = Hamas.

I'm not surprised. Absolutely shameful. At least more and more people are beginning to see through such statements though.

I know everything on Twitter is lying lies and fakery - but there's a strange clip of film circulating taken thro a chain-link fence of the hit and the hospital erupting into flames. Why would anyone be filming a fence in the pitch dark

Maybe I'm completely wrong and there is some simple explanation

You may be right-I don't know. But this diagram doesn't say that.

I know everything on Twitter is lying lies and fakery

And on Mumsnet.

Actually, it does. See bottom right. Includes the Gaza Health Ministry.

I wonder if all the people trying to deflect from, and cast doubt on, what's happening are partly trying to stop themselves from confronting what's actually going on, too.

President Abass has cancelled tomorrows meeting with Biden and is returning to Ramallah

Just seen the latest news about the targeting of a hospital by Israel. 500 dead.
Misinformation or fact?

Israel is now blaming a failed Hamas rocket launch.
Misinformation or fact?

We won't know until it has been verified by reliable sources. In the meantime the spreading of potentially false news for propaganda is simply a numbers game, people piling in believing the Hamas version or the Israeli version. At the moment Hamas is winning the popular vote on Mumsnet.

Waiting for facts to be verified before reposting sounds like a good idea unless you want to pour oil into the fire and ultimately risk having blood on your hands. People are incensed on all sides, remaining calm and factual seems like a good idea all around.

Anti-Abass demo in West Bank incl central Ramallah has erupted into violence in response to hospital bombing

I take your point and have asked MNHQ to remove my post

I find it really ironic when zionists around the globe sought global condemnation of hamas attacks, even made a massive deal about wembley not lighting up their stadium with the israeli flag….if there is any mention of the wider conflict immediate reactions are SO BEHEADING BABIES IS OKAY? Yet a hospital has been struck in gaza, thousands have died this week, israel is comitting war crime after war crime and people are painfully analysing the wording and camera angle to somehow pin this on hamas make this Palestine s fault?

Stop with the beheading babies. If BBC news posted it, what do you spect random mumsnetters to do? Forgive people for believing the national news of all things.

It probably is Israel at it gain, but if we're being honest, who can we trust? There's a government that's out of its mind, providing misleading information and degrading Palestinian civilians live on air.

And on the other hand terrorists who are pulling out all the stops with propaganda, pretending to care about their people yet gambling peoples lives for their own warped mission

@LethargicButAwesome
Why won't you give Israel a chance to provide proof they didn't do it before you believe everything Hamas say? They're not exactly a reliable source bearing in mind they're, you know, terrorists

Side note: the babies still died beheaded or not. They were still murdered even if that wasn't the precise method so let's not downplay that because they weren't beheaded jihadi-style.

@FurryPaws I agree

Some of the things I've read from adults, on this subject, is frightening. The amount of minimising of what Hamas did, with a cursory, what they did was disgusting, but ...🙄then you've got the blatant disregard for any indication that Israel wasn't responsible for the hospital bombing.