To be against the attacks on Palestine

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What happened in Israel was horrific by Hamas. But why are Palestinians being restricted, bombed, dehydrated and deprived of basic needs because of terrorists? Why is the world supporting Israel commiting war crimes?

Hamas are sick fucks to kill innocents. But it's like history repeating again. 9/11 caused millions of Iraqis killed for what?

Have we learned nothing from the past???

No, not like this at all. academics who study the region. because fundamentally, they know how skilled the israeli security services are and they cannot get their heads around how they did not know about this attack unless this was the case. They are supposed to be the most sophisticated in the world at this and you are telling me that they just didnt know?

Yes, every conspiracy theory is different because X.
Why does sophisticated mean mistakes aren’t made? Certainly they didn’t expect this from Hamas, Hezbollah yes.
Maths twin towers weren’t meant to fall, the Titanic wasn’t meant to sink, 9/11 shouldn’t have happened. The Manchester Arena bomber slipped through the net.

YANBU at all.

As for our ‘WE STAND WITH ISREAL’ politicians - well, how they can stand with a country promising to wipe an entire people off the face of the earth, is beyond me.

And the other idiotic ones ‘encouraging’ Palestinians to leave - how and to where please?

I feel for the innocent victims of all of this on both sides.

Just like I feel for the innocent people of Russia as much as I feel for the innocents in Ukraine.

The problem is men.

@mummymeister

"How did the israeli secret service so spectacularly fuck up then?"

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Quite simply because they fucked up. It is the age old cock up versus conspiracy theory where 99% of the time it is cock up.

For example Princess Diana died because she being driven in a car at high speed by a drunk driver and wasn't wearing a seat not because of some secret plot by the royal family to assassinate her.

BBC is 100% biased against Israel. It's so obvious when you compare the tone and frequency of articles. BBC is not neutral on the issue.

@duchiebun the israelis were warned 10 days before. why did they not react? Lone assassins easily slip through the net. small sophisticated groups get through very occassionally. but bloody great masses of people. that surely is a different matter. have you been to the region and seen the sheer amount of money israel ploughs into its defence. and they were thrawted by men on diggers and quad bikes?

An Egyptian official stated a few days ago that he warned of a Hamas attack 10 days before it happened and Netayahu was nonplussed, which surprised him.

All this proves is arrogance.

The CIA repeatedly warned the White house a big attack was coming.

There is no way the IDS didn’t see this coming. This a massive win for Israel, who will finally steal the last remnants of land the Palestinians live (and will die) on. Israeli lives are short-term collateral damage for their end goal. Let’s see how much Hezbollah at the Lebanese border will tolerate, as they watch events.

are we going to take refugees from Gaza, fly them here and house them? their power supply has gone. I don't understand why we did it for Ukraine but not Palestine?

the israelis were warned 10 days before. why did they not react?

Because according to you they were in on it, that’s the only answer you will accept.

I don't think you're cynical at all.

I think you're gullible, at best, or extremely malevolent, at worst, and are spreading conspiracy theories about Jews being responsible for the horrific deaths, torture, rape, kidnap and mutilation of other Jews, because you believe that Jews are properly evil and must therefore be responsible for everything bad that happens to us.

Not only denying the Palestinians their own agency, but also attributing evil motives to Jews, even when we are slaughtered and mutilated.

That's not cynicism. It may be stupidity or it may be gullibility or it may be simple racism, but one thing it is not is 'cynical'.

People clearly do not understand what "semite" means. Israelis/Jews are not the only semites.
This is such a bug bear of mine. Semites are people who speak any of the semitic languages. This includes Arabs and even some Africans. It bugs the hell out of me that people loosely accuse people of being antisemitic when they clearly have no knowledge of the meaning.
Also, they are only calling you that because you have a differing opinion to them. It's ridiculous.

are we going to take refugees from Gaza, fly them here and house them? their power supply has gone. I don't understand why we did it for Ukraine but not Palestine?

I can’t see that being popular & how would they get here?

Keep going with the conspiracy theories and planting those seeds of doubt.

Any views on the Twin Towers or the moon landings?

How did you get racism from someone saying something surprised them?
That's a stretch.

That's not cynicism. It may be stupidity or it may be gullibility or it may be simple racism, but one thing it is not is 'cynical'.

quite!

Yeah, Hamas's charter that commits to killing all Jews in the world, and their commitment to drive all Jews into the sea, is pretty shit, isn't it? I agree.

How Hamas duped Israel as it planned devastating attack | Reuters

Where have I blamed victims?

I'm saying that I'm against the attacks in Palestine to punish Hamas. How can butchering 1000s without food water power medical aid in an open air prison be justified ever??

How are people supporting this? How are world leaders supporting Israel in the genocide of Palestinians happening right now? Why are Palestinians so dehumanised that no one cares about their lives. 200 Palestinians were killed before Hamas' attack last week but there was no support or out cry for them. Why is that?

I have no idea, but we have facilitated evacuations from other areas

it was popular when we were protecting Ukrainians, and the immediate threat to most of them wasn't as severe as this

Actually yes. They have suffered for so long and for so much. But I think it's reprehensible if Israel puts Europe in that situation. And we should not normalise countries expelling unwanted populations. I hope a ceasefire comes soon and it does not come to that.

With the most sophisticated intelligence on the planet, it beggars belief they knew nothing. This was a well-orchestrated attack with a huge cache of weapons. How the fuck did Hamas hide that when every aspect of their lives is monitored??

Thanks for sharing -some here will be thinking one the BBC is biased to be showing such a testimony and second she should be attacking Hamas morally, physically and intellectually, or she has it coming. Or frankly they just don't care they just want Palestinian en masse to be hammered and hammered hard. There are brave dissident Jewish British voices who are to be applauded. https://twitter.com/NaamodUK