To be against the attacks on Palestine

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What happened in Israel was horrific by Hamas. But why are Palestinians being restricted, bombed, dehydrated and deprived of basic needs because of terrorists? Why is the world supporting Israel commiting war crimes?

Hamas are sick fucks to kill innocents. But it's like history repeating again. 9/11 caused millions of Iraqis killed for what?

Have we learned nothing from the past???

This is spot on

I would not jump to conclusions that food and water will be deliberately withheld from civilians or that leaders and those who can influence deliveries are not pressurising Israel to ensure IHL is adhered to.

Sieges are permissible in war. That is a fact. They have to be carried out in a way that is proportionate to the military objectives of the besiegers. Military forces can be denied all forms of supplies under a siege process. Sieges and starvation of an opposing army are acceptable methods of warfare. The deliberate starving of civilians however is prohibited because that does not meet the definition (nor prisoners of war). The difficulty for Israel is going to be the successful discrimination of fighters as opposed to civilians.

We have to hear what Israel will do to comply with IHL. I would be surprised to not hear anything in the coming days.

"The difficulty for Israel is going to be the successful discrimination of fighters as opposed to civilians."

Youll probably find the everyone that gets killed are terrorists and anyone who doesnt - in the main, isnt.

Thats generaly how these "hunt the terrorist" types of operation work out.

The deliberate starving of civilians however is prohibited because that does not meet the definition (nor prisoners of war). The difficulty for Israel is going to be the successful discrimination of fighters as opposed to civilians.

Not so much a difficulty as an impossibility. They're besieging the entire Gaza Strip where half the population are children. Even if every adult male Palestinian was a Hamas fighter, which they aren't, they would still be a minority of those under siege.

No electricity, water, or fuel for Gaza until hostages freed - Israel
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67073970

This sounds like a fair approach. Return the hostages unharmed and get back electricity, water, or fuel. It's in the hands of Hamas now.

What if the hostages are no longer alive?

It's in the hands of Hamas to release the hostages. It's simple, release them. But Hamas has not got the best interest of their people in mind, do they? This could be dealt with within hours, release the hostages, get your electricity back. And before your cry war crime, you do realise that sexual violence committed by combatants during an armed conflict, war, or military occupation is a war crime? Are you in support of that??

no its not a " fair response" it is breaking international laws , these are war crimes, are you saying that Israel are allowed to ignore these laws and do what the fuck they want to people? innocent people and children being starved is fair to you ?

I mean, they could just return the hostages?

I've a terrible feeling that it might not be possible to release the hostages, I'm not sure what happens then.

You do not know whether it is a fair response or not. Sieges are permissible under international law.

An assessment should have been made of existing resources inside Gaza. This could include food, water and generators that could be used to power hospitals. A besieger cannot withhold supplies that are essential to the survival of civilians. There is nothing to prevent a besieger from interrupting supply to Hamas forces. Israel is entitled to assume that Hamas will prioritise its suppliers for civilians in Gaza above its members.

There are efforts now taking place to persuade Israel to ensure supplies sufficient to ensure survival of Gaza's population are not interrupted. It is reported that Blinken is leading this and so is MBS. It will be interesting to see what happens over the next 48 hours.

Imagine living a life where at any point, another country has the means and capacity to switch off your access to electricity, water and fuel. At any time. The pure fact that this situation exists, and this capacity can be exercised at will, is a sign of unfathomable oppression.

@SomeCatFromJapan

Exactly, you return the hostages, and you get water, electricity, food and fuel. You won’t die. Then we try to establish some semblance of normalization back in the area and go back to how things were.

What, that’s not enough for you? You’re still here aren’t you? We’re tolerating your unseemly presence in our liberal, progressive country. You’re existing, mostly. What more could you possibly want?

Shut the hell up and take your fucking scraps.

Nowhere in my post did I say that anyone should get revenge or be entitled to get revenge on anyone. I said I understood the reasons why they wanted revenge.

There is a difference between condoning and supporting an an action and not supporting it but understanding why they are doing it.

i mean, Israel can just like stop oppressing them and like stop killing innocent civillians and children and then like maybe they wouldn't take hostages

There was a bit more done than simply "take hostages" over the weekend, as you know. Whatever the background history, the current events have been firmly triggered by Hamas atrocities. And yes returning the hostages in return for actually getting services restored to the desperate population they supposedly govern would be a good first start. But they'd rather bring death down on their heads as a fucking PR exercise.

I really hate the arguments over how children and babies were killed. In what other situation would we be debating this?! A loss of life- any loss of life - is utterly tragic. Parents and families are grieving.

Who has terrorised Israel, Palestine or Hamas?

Yes there is proof that there were multiple massacres against civilians including children and babies at Be'eri and Kfar Azar.

Am I to understand that the killing of the babies is more acceptable if their heads are left in situ?