To be against the attacks on Palestine

[Threemangoes]

What happened in Israel was horrific by Hamas. But why are Palestinians being restricted, bombed, dehydrated and deprived of basic needs because of terrorists? Why is the world supporting Israel commiting war crimes?

Hamas are sick fucks to kill innocents. But it's like history repeating again. 9/11 caused millions of Iraqis killed for what?

Have we learned nothing from the past???

Egypt warned Israel days before Hamas struck

The BBC headline is somewhat misleading I think - the article doesn't mention a specific warning - rather "something big" "could happen" "very soon". That's not evidence of a specific warning.

But I suspect Hamas doesn't really care enough for the ordinary Palestinian people

of course that don’t

The main problem for the Palestinians is Hamas, not Israelis. Hamas are oppressing and violating their own people. Only we don't see videos of this as it's not part of Hams' PR strategy.

The main problem for the Palestinians is Hamas, not Israelis

Rubbish. Hamas is a symptom of the problem caused by Israel.

It was still unconfirmed two hours ago when Sky News reported, no Israeli official has confirmed after being asked multiple times by Sky and stated this morning they have no information linked to such a situation. The initial reporter has admitted it was based on hearsay from a single Israeli soldier and reporter and that she had seen no proof.

Remember that a lot of media being shared as Hamas violence (although it definitely does exist!) online is actually being proven to be IOF violence, either recent or historic.

@Teder like i said before so that "retaliation" could be justified. No expertise in politics just can differentiate between right and wrong truth and lies.

Rubbish. Hamas is a symptom of the problem caused by Israel.

Why don’t they hold elections then?

There are war crimes being committed right this moment and some posters want to justify killing Palestinians in their 1000s daily because of actions of terrorist group.

So rape, murder and massacres are meh.

Cutting off supplies is war crimes humanitarian crisis unfathomable evil taking it too far

Am I getting this right op?

What makes you think that withholding necessities is worse than straight up executing and hunting down people?

So... "We have been bombed out of our homes by the UK, let's go and live in our enemies county? "
The allies occupied Afghanistan until recently, gave the population an opportunity to experience education, women's rights and a level of freedom unexperienced before - these people were taken over by the Taliban resurgence. Iraq, descended into chaos due the lack of winning the peace, after military victory. Syria - we did very little there, mostly due to concern about Russia and China willywaving in support of Assad. We have not been involved in Sudan, in Ethiopia, in Eritrea -, in Somalia where a large number of migrants are coming from. Other migrants are coming from couriers which may have been colonies and who gained independence at least 80, 70 60 years ago. Plenty of time for good, efficient and effective governance from their own people - surely? Unless.... Oh dear.

Hamas wouldn't be ruling the Gaza Strip if Israel hadn't dispossessed the Palestinian people and trapped them in a defacto prison camp. They're a symptom of desperation.

What on earth makes you think the IOF haven’t been raping, murdering and massacring Palestinians for decades?

Its very well documented!

@Northbright

"But if Hamas terrorists carried out the attacks. And Israel are rightly seeking revenge on Hamas. Then if Hamas cared one jot for the Palestinian people and wanted to stop this revenge in the form of the horrible bombing they would give up the terrorists that committed the atrocities"

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Hamas are the political party in charge of Gaza and they organised the terrorist attacks. So Hamas and terrorists are one and the same so to give up the terrorists is to give up Hamas.

Just reported again on C4.

Excerpt from Times of Israel

"Israel got a warning from Egypt of potential violence three days before Hamas fighters carried out a large-scale attack and massacred over 1,000 people in Israel, the chairman of the powerful US House Foreign Affairs Committee said Wednesday.

“We know that Egypt has warned the Israelis three days prior that an event like this could happen,” Republican Michael McCaul tells reporters following a closed-door intelligence briefing for lawmakers on the crisis.
“I don’t want to get too much into classified, but a warning was given,” he says. “I think the question was at what level.”
So why didn't Netanyahu act. Sheer incompetence or something more sinister.

All blame lies with Hamas. I would prefer they get the women and children out then raze Gaza into oblivion

@fioritura

"What on earth makes you think the IOF haven’t been raping, murdering and massacring Palestinians for decades?

It's very well documented!"

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Please read my post below - this thread has moved on from whataboutery and is now on to conspiracy theories.

Please try to keep to the script.

Hammas wouldn't be in if there weren't fair and free elections.
None since 2006.

The previous government was terribly corrupt.

Hammas sold itself as a new way and hope.
Then promptly seized power, repressed women.

I dont know that I would read Israel's failure to react to warnings as evidence of a conspiracy theory. Israeli borders are under continual threat from Hamas attacks, skirmishes are not uncommon, its not clear at what level any threat was shared and there is of course traditionally high confidence in Israeli intelligence and defence.

I fully believe a warning was given but I think the true threat was underestimated and most likely left to filter through various channels.

@AhNowTed

"So why didn't Netanyahu act. Sheer incompetence or something more sinister."

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Well done to @AhNowTed with the bullshit conspiracy theories and sticking to the script.

@fioritura - please take note.

We did not invade or muder any civilians in aby other counrry after the last terrorist attacks? Neither did France or Belgium?

Billy, come back when 1000 brits die in one die, then we'll talk. You have no idea what our gov (or any) would do in that situation.

Who is supporting Hamas?

Your faith in the man is endearing.

Yes I realise that. But it's a possible way to stop the reason (on the face of it) for the bombing..its been done before in other circumstances (where there is state sponsored terrorism) a country gives up the soldiers/officers that carried out an attack in return for something they need or cessation of hostilities and gives both sides a way out. If Hamas really cared and wanted to save many many thousands of Palestinian lives, they would give up to the Hague the circa 1,000 Hamas terrorists that crossed the border. But because they are a fanatical death cult like ISIS they don't actually care about their own people dying. They want to kill Jews. So they will sit in their tunnels and wait.

Exactly this

No one in their right mind can support of seek to justify Hamas.

fioritura
The initial reporter has admitted it was based on hearsay from a single Israeli soldier

There's a second 'witness' mentioned in your link -

CBS News in the US said on Wednesday that Yossi Landau, head of operations at Zaka, Israel's volunteer civilian emergency response organisation, confirmed to them he had "personally seen" adults, children and babies beheaded.