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I've upset my mum but AIBU?

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CRivers · 10/10/2023 08:30

I was chatting with my mum about Christmas and she was mentioning things she wants and I said "I hope you don't mind, will do some handmade bits from the kids but as I'm on my unpaid part of maternity leave now I won't be doing presents this year apart from for the kids, I've got to make it a good Christmas for them and I don't want to use credit cards to buy people things for the sake of it"

She read it and didn't reply for 3 days then said "I've got to say that is hurtful. I don't have much money either but would always get you a gift. I do a lot to help with you and the children and feel I should of been a priority, this year especially. You may be on unpaid maternity but my DH name earns and as said I do a lot for you and your family including him."

Yes dh earns but he is solely covering our mortgage, bills, car, fuel, general life, and all of the kids Christmas presents this year not to mention all the food etc. Things are very tight and we both agreed this year just do presents for the kids not each other and other people. Will get the kids to make bits as always but nothing purchased.

AIBU? I feel bad now but I would never want my kids to use credit cards to get me a Christmas present....

OP posts:
Runnerinthenight · 10/10/2023 12:24

Olika · 10/10/2023 08:47

So an adult is upset that she is not getting fancy presents? 🤦🏽‍♀️

Why wouldn't she be? Just because she's an "adult"??

MikeRafone · 10/10/2023 12:27

was chatting with my mum about Christmas and she was mentioning things she wants and I said "I hope you don't mind, will do some handmade bits from the kids but as I'm on my unpaid part of maternity leave now I won't be doing presents this year apart from for the kids, I've got to make it a good Christmas for them and I don't want to use credit cards to buy people things for the sake of it"

She read it and didn't reply for 3 days then said

were you chatting or did you send this message by text?

JustAMinutePleass · 10/10/2023 12:28

Gettingbysomehow · 10/10/2023 12:23

I think adults get very infantalised at xmas time. I'm not a christian myself but christmas is supposed to be about the birth of Christ. When did it turn into an orgy of gift giving?
I don't celebrate it in any way, shape or form because I can't see the point of it and I'm sick of going into the new year in debt. Plus my DS is an adult and feels the same way.
Why would I have a dead tree in my house?
My relatives are aghast that I won't have anything to do with it. But think about it, insane traffic for all of December, shops crammed with angry people, more food than you can eat, adults in tears because their husbands haven't bought them a decent gift. WTF!
The best christmases I ever had as a child lasted for one day only, involved church going and a few simple gifts and spending quality time with people you loved. That was enough.
Now it's so stressful nobody can enjoy it and the children are completely overwhelmed.

Just because you used to go into debt for Christmas doesn’t mean others do. Most people stagger Christmas gift giving accross the year and plan food sensibly.

theleafandnotthetree · 10/10/2023 12:28

Mikimoto · 10/10/2023 12:03

LOVE the book idea! I'd be in heaven receiving that for Xmas!

I know, my sister has done similar for me and Best Christmas Present Ever! 🤣 You recycle, help a charity AND get loads of books, talk about win-win-win.

Catmuffin · 10/10/2023 12:29

You know your mum will be disappointed as the gift means a lot to her. I'd try and stretch to getting her something. You don't want her feeling hurt at Christmas

NotQuiteHere · 10/10/2023 12:35

I don't want to use credit cards to buy people things for the sake of it

This kind of hints that you usually give your mum ("people") presents "for the sake of it", just to tick the box, not because you love and appreciate her.

You could have given the same message using different wording if you had given it a slightest thought.

Runnerinthenight · 10/10/2023 12:36

Yolo12345 · 10/10/2023 09:12

Leave it a few days then reply "your reply is hurtful tbh. As a parent I now have to step up to take care of my family, that includes making the right financial decisions to make sure we don't fall into debt or get trapped with credit card debt.I would have thought you would have supported me in this and realised that the children getting gifts from Santa is the priority here. I love and appreciate what you and didn't realise that gift giving was so important to you."

Then see what she comes back with

That's horrible. I'd be devastated if my daughter sent me a message like that.

laveritable · 10/10/2023 12:37

YABU.
your mother is NOT "other people"

I don't care for Xmas gifts, my kids know what I like, a scarf, small plant, nail polish for a FIVER if they are skint will do!

FlamingoQueen · 10/10/2023 12:38

I would hate for my dc to go into debt to buy Christmas (or birthday) presents. But, if your Mum does a lot for you, I can understand this would make her feel very unappreciated.
I have a friend who does all the childcare for her son and family - to the detriment of her health - and whilst she would not want money wasted on her, a simple gesture goes a long way.

Lastchancechica · 10/10/2023 12:39

theleafandnotthetree · 10/10/2023 12:16

You see I really have a problem with this 'children should be prioritised' above all else thing. So far as I can see in lots of families nowadays, they are the only ones prioritised when in reality, they (on average) have never had so much, had so much done for them, etc. all year round as well as at Christmas. I see people spending what I consider to be insane amounts on children to the detriment of themselves or as in this case, relationships and connections with other family members. These children will also have lots of Christmasses, they're not dying or anything and they are just one cog within the family. Everyone matters, and as an aside, I don't this deification and over prioritisation of children's wants (not needs( has done them any favours either. Not exactly jumping for joy are they..

Don’t be ridiculous Christmas is for children!! Adults have the ability to buy their own tat.

I am pretty sure you don’t have children.

Runnerinthenight · 10/10/2023 12:41

JMaggs93 · 10/10/2023 12:08

The mother is being unreasonable. Handmade things are much more thoughtful and personal. 'Cutting back on the kids' presents' is a stupid idea, the mother has had her fair share of Christmases throughout her life and the children should be prioritised on Christmas.

I couldn't disagree with you more.

I'd never not have given my mother a Christmas present - it's such a tiny token of appreciation for all your mum has done for you all of your life. Aren't mothers allowed to have feelings too? Plus your kids don't appreciate the half of it. Horrible.

Runnerinthenight · 10/10/2023 12:42

Lastchancechica · 10/10/2023 12:39

Don’t be ridiculous Christmas is for children!! Adults have the ability to buy their own tat.

I am pretty sure you don’t have children.

Rubbish. Christmas is for families, not just children - and I have 3 children.

Lastchancechica · 10/10/2023 12:46

This thread is tantamount to society’s me first society. Any decent mother would not want their children to get into debt bankrolling presents for them. A thoughtful home made gift should be ample to feel ‘appreciated’
Then we have petulant mothers insisting on being a priority and ‘important’ and up in arms at the prospect of a rainbow pasta shell necklace.

This is why Christmas is so bloody stressful.

Lastchancechica · 10/10/2023 12:46

Runnerinthenight · 10/10/2023 12:42

Rubbish. Christmas is for families, not just children - and I have 3 children.

God help them! You sound very demanding and expectant.

Paul2023 · 10/10/2023 12:47

Doesn’t reply for three days?… do many adults really want a present for Xmas?
I don’t expect anyone to buy me anything, children are different of course but not adults.

DisquietintheRanks · 10/10/2023 12:49

"Christmas is for children"

Says who? What a strange, reductive way of looking at it.

Daisy12Maisie · 10/10/2023 12:51

I would rather my children came to visit me/ call me at christmas and birthdays than get me a gift. I appreciate people can do both but seeing them is more important. I know everyone is different but getting a gift or a better gift doesnt mean someone loves you more. Children should be the priority at christmas. I think the ops mum is being selfish and immature. Surely the op could offer to cook a family meal instead which would be nicer anyway than an item. I would have added in the sentance that the op wrote that there was no need to get me anything either. I dont have grandchildren yet but if i did and £10 of their limited budget was spent on me i would find that bizarre and a bit sad. Im an adult. If i want something i can save up and buy it. Children cant so parents are meant to prioritise their children not their parents.

theleafandnotthetree · 10/10/2023 12:52

Lastchancechica · 10/10/2023 12:39

Don’t be ridiculous Christmas is for children!! Adults have the ability to buy their own tat.

I am pretty sure you don’t have children.

I absolutely do have children but I have not stopped having empathy, love and consideration for other humans who aren't children! Look I think Christmas is over the top, ridiculous and crazy at every level, but the craziness should at least not prioritise one group of people to the point of completely excluding another. And a persons mother is about as fundamental as it gets. Would those people defending the OP genuinely be happy to get such a message in 20 or 30 years time. I would be very hurt, but mostly embarrassed I'd raised such a thoughtless and rude person. 'For the sake of it' indeed.

Runnerinthenight · 10/10/2023 12:56

Gettingbysomehow · 10/10/2023 12:23

I think adults get very infantalised at xmas time. I'm not a christian myself but christmas is supposed to be about the birth of Christ. When did it turn into an orgy of gift giving?
I don't celebrate it in any way, shape or form because I can't see the point of it and I'm sick of going into the new year in debt. Plus my DS is an adult and feels the same way.
Why would I have a dead tree in my house?
My relatives are aghast that I won't have anything to do with it. But think about it, insane traffic for all of December, shops crammed with angry people, more food than you can eat, adults in tears because their husbands haven't bought them a decent gift. WTF!
The best christmases I ever had as a child lasted for one day only, involved church going and a few simple gifts and spending quality time with people you loved. That was enough.
Now it's so stressful nobody can enjoy it and the children are completely overwhelmed.

You sound like a right bundle of joy!

You can have a good Christmas without starting the New Year in debt!!

@CRivers I think you have been mean and cruel to your mother. Unless she's being untruthful about the help she gives you and your husband, and "especially this year"???

So, who's providing Christmas dinner, I wonder....

MikeRafone · 10/10/2023 12:59

Lastchancechica · 10/10/2023 12:39

Don’t be ridiculous Christmas is for children!! Adults have the ability to buy their own tat.

I am pretty sure you don’t have children.

I thought Christmas was for everyone? Its when people come together to celebrate.

I know in Japan once you get to 12 there is an end to present at Christmas, but never heard that Christmas or presents is just for children in UK

Runnerinthenight · 10/10/2023 13:00

Lastchancechica · 10/10/2023 12:46

God help them! You sound very demanding and expectant.

How did you figure that out????!! Bit of a stretch?? You sound like you're clutching at straws!!

They don't need God to help them. They are generous towards me within their means as I am to them. And in 'families' I'd be including grandparents etc, if my kids had been fortunate enough to still have them.

QueenofTheSlipstreamVM · 10/10/2023 13:02

I think she is being very adverse.. every year l tell my two daughters never to get me anything.
They do.. but I'm happy with my £1 shop hand cream and primark slippers..
The Grandkids are the most important and the best presents ever is always a homemade Christmas card from them.
Her thinking is ridiculous.. you don't give to receive.. be it time or gifts.

user1498572889 · 10/10/2023 13:02

That sounds a bit selfish of her. I would rather my grandkids got presents and not me.

Daisyislazy · 10/10/2023 13:05

Do you invite her over At Christmas?