Collective Punishment - No water, no food, no medicines

[Lieblingsessen]

I do not condone whatsoever what the Hamas attacks on civilians in Israel or their ideology

But surely, Israel laying siege to Gaza, preventing innocent civilians from accessing water, food, medicines, electricity for hospital equipment, is not justifiable. To collectively punish civilians who have no control over what Hamas or their government does. This is medieval.

Where is the outcry on the mainstream media about this? Surely it is not being anti-semitic to call out Israel, that retaliation is not unexpected, but collective punishment is horrendous.

Same as France responded to the attacks or the UK after Manchester, or Brussels after the attacks? Not by committing crimes against humanity against a population of civilians they have abused for decades and who are not responsible for Hamas' actions?

How should Palestinian respond to the way Israel treats them?

This from a pp:

‘I didn’t see the Israelis parading young girls that had been raped to death, bleeding from their vaginas whilst draped across the soldiers in the backs of trucks’

There needs to be a whole lot more outrage about these disgusting acts, not equivalence and justification.

Meanwhile, there are men waving Palestinian flags celebrating in London (I have now seen multiple groups this evening).

I am not so naive as to think that rape does not happen in war. Supposedly it should be outlawed in modern warfare and when it does happen today is theoretically supposed to be an aberration.

Hamas resorted to using rape as a means of terror as an opening salvo. Regardless of the greater political situation, they gave Israel very little choice but to take extreme measures to defend itself. A blockade is more conservative than what could be happening.

WGY SHOULD ISRAEL SUPPLY FOOD OR WATER OR INDEED ANYTHING TO A COUNTRY ITS AT WAR WITH??

WHO JUST MURDERED ABOUT 1,OOO OF ITS CITIZENS AT THE WEEKEND??

Seriously, trade is not a legal obligation. Israel is not Gaza's mum.

If Israel wants to stop supplying Gaza with stuff, it can.

Maybe Hamas should have thought of that. Such victim-blaming.

After what I saw yesterday, they'll get no sympathy from me.🇮🇱

Yet another corner of the world absolutely fucked up by religious differences. Makes me sick reading the news and knowing what’s coming.

I don’t think they care - they just want to stir things up to distract from their own actions in Ukraine, and generally turn people in the west against each other.

Putin was happy enough to blow up Russian citizens in Russia.

The IRA were not the only terrorist organisation in Ireland / Northern Ireland , odd that it's only them that get mentioned

Do you think that they should let food supplies and other supplies come in by the port? Easy to get large volumes in of food and medicines.

Again, Geneva convention. Easy.

Seriously, trade is not a legal obligation. Israel is not Gaza's mum.

It's Gaza's prison guard and tormenter.

Israelis have committed terrible crimes against Palestinians (and vice versa, don't get me wrong), but it wasn't filmed. Like Mohammed Abu Khdeir, 17, burned alive by 3 Israelis. Is that acceptable? And what about Ali Saad Dawabsheh, 18 months old, burned to death too, while settlers were burning his parents house? That's acceptable?

The children of Gaza didn't try to murder Israelis though did they?
There will be babies born tonight literally into medieval conditions, as the Israelis have turned the lights off.
The only solution seems to be a one state shared between the two sides- two state solution seems to have died 30 years ago when both sides gave up on it.
It's a struggle to support both sides when they both want to murder each other.
Hamas may be a terrorist organisation, but it's a (fairly) democratically elected one, albeit some time ago.

The person who said Israel is not obliged to trade has it right. They don't.

And it's asking a hell of a lot of Israel to expect it to feed, water and medicate the population of a country that just tried to murder them, and is committed officially to the genocide of all Jews globally. Israel is not feeding them , all aids comes through Israeli boarder crossing into Gaza.

Yeah seriously, what the fuck is that? You break every possible international law by stealing land and displacing people, you segregate them being walls with no right to escape without permission, then it's not your problem to make sure they have food and water? In their own country?

Are we supposed to turn a blind eye to that?

Surely Israel is at war (if you can describe it as a war) against Hamas, not Palestine, why is there a need to conflate the two

Yet the Israeli people are not conflated with the Israeli government.

@topnoddy splitting hairs really. I used the IRA as an illustrative example.

We're not talking about trade though? We're talking about a population being forcibly cut off from international aid?

Could you PLEASE read about the Geneva convention? It’s not so difficult to understand that doing this is a war crime…

My reading tells me hammas has taken over like dictators.

bellac11 sadly you are absolutely right.

But they are not cut off. There is a great big border with Egypt. Aid can come through via Egypt.

Except - it doesn't. It never has. Why?

Chill mate, I only said the west aren't get involved perhaps due to our trade deals.

You are trying to have a row when there isn't one.

What are Israel's biggest 3 exports to the West?

Ukraine's biggest export to the UK is oil and grain. Why am I not allowed to say that Israel's biggest export to us is pharmaceuticals? Our biggest export to them is nuclear reactors. It's no secret!

Why is stating these simple trade facts antisemetic in your eyes?

Hamas are indefatigably opposed to Israel even continuing to exist.

They are totally opposed to any deal that involves Jews being alive.

Do you not get that?