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Difficult neighbour or am I being a tiger mum?

238 replies

Tangofantastic · 09/10/2023 10:26

Genuinely can’t see the wood for the trees here so hoping for your thoughts.
Lived in same semi detached house for nearly 10 years, at first neighbour who I’m attached to was friendly but fairly quickly I realised we are quite different so kept polite distance (one of many examples was when she asked for my help to talk to a bordering neighbour garden about their new trees overlooking her house and she wanted support to do this so I agreed, but when we got there it was a very different conversation to what I thought we were going to have, she was verbally aggressive and rude to this poor lady and I stood there mortified, and later went round with flowers to apologise and say had I known that’s what she was going to do / say I wouldn’t have come with he).
fast forward 7 years and I’m now on my own here with 2 kids, one of whom has autism and sensory needs. He offloads by playing basketball in the front which I make sure is only for 20-30 mins at a time and never past 7pm or before 7am. He does meltdown in and outside house about 1-2 times a day with screeching / shouting / hitting himself/ stimming which most of my neighbours know about and kindly “ignore” as he becomes more distressed with input from people talking at him when melting down. He does need to be outside at these points as inside he is a risk to his little sister and smashes things so I was advised to let him be outside for these meltdowns which last around 15 mins.

over the last year it’s become nearly impossible with my Neighbour, every day there’s a new problem she arrives at my door to talk about: my son making noise, her music students not liking walking past our house if my son is outside (she works from home teaching music) our dog walking past her driveway and setting off the ring door bell, my working from home and she can hear my calls through kitchen wall (this feels unlikely but even if true I can’t not work from home), my bins not being in the right place, and then finally my straw broke so to speak when she arrived at my door when I was mid-work call to say my son had sworn outside (to himself, not at her) when she was walking past with a friend and she wants me to stop the anti social behaviour. I was pretty short with her, explaining I was working and that my son is 10, has autism and does meltdown and I manage that as best I can, he’s in the house 7pm - 7am at least so he can’t bother the neighbours but she just kept going until I had to shut the door on her. I’ve woken up to a note saying she’s installing cctv and will be recording the disturbance from my son and general noise. I feel really upset by it as I try my best, I know my son is challenging but he’s not challenging her, it’s all on my property (Albeit attached to her) but I just hoped for some understanding that it’s not easy and I do the best I can.
what do I do now? I’ve tried being nice, made all the accommodations I think I can, and now I feel relations have completely deteriorated and I simply don’t know what else I can do. I don’t like the idea of cctv recording but it’s her property so 🤷‍♀️

i feel like she’s making me out to be a shameless Style family with a single mum and unruly kids but I try my best. What, if anything, should i do? Thank you 🙏

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Tangofantastic · 09/10/2023 20:22

I have NO idea why indigenous people say has appeared there 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️😂😂

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Archangel90 · 09/10/2023 20:24

Regarding about neighbour putting CCTV install.

Here what they cannot do.

1, CCTV no allow facing/Anywhere Involve on your property at all, this will Class a Breach Private invading.

All you can do it, Let it Play out itself. what you can do is.

if neighbour continue to bother you with about your Child, and Child doing no harm to anyone. you can raise complaint to Council, seek out for support that your child involved etc Specialty support given for child need for advices.

if continue carry one none stop, get the Neighbour Police Officer in your Area Involved, as they try solve situation, if this have go any further, apply for Restraining Order stop further contact for Neighbours.

AInightingale · 09/10/2023 20:36

You can ask MN to take the thread down.

But OP, I think you answered your own question when you described how rude your ndn had been to the other neighbour with the trees. She's got form. Sounds like she's got a lot of unresolved anger in her heart about something and that's hardly your fault - you're just the target.

Loubelle70 · 09/10/2023 20:52

Tangofantastic · 09/10/2023 20:21

Omg can they do this??? i didn’t mean for it to hit the papers! I was just wondering genuinely if I was being unreasonable and over protective of my son ☹️What should
i do? Contact the paper to give more
context? I bet my neighbour reads it and loses the plot all over again thinking I’ve gone to
the press
🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Yes they can do this. Dont worry about it. Print it off n post it thru her letterbox 🤣 (youve only got supportive views on there from us 😁)

billy1966 · 09/10/2023 21:00

Loubelle70 · 09/10/2023 18:07

Well OP...I wouldn't mind if you were my neighbor. You need kindness and so does your DC. Living with autism can be frustrating and so can being a parent of children on autistic spectrum..and adding to the frustration when you're absolutely at your wits end, is a meddling unsympathetic neighbour.

Neither would I.

You sound like a wonderful mum and your neighbour is dreadful.

Can you get a video bell?

All thhat coming and going from her business must be an annoyance for you and your family.

I would be noting EVERYTHING and asking for her to only contact you by email with her complaints so that you can indeed involve his support services.

Ring 101 for advice about her harassment of you about your child with disability.

She sounds absolutely awful and she needs to be informed that HER behaviour is not acceptable.

Stop tolerating her behaviour.

Take detailed notes of her business and comings and goings.

See how she likes it.
Her business is a nuisance for your family.

Time to shine a light on it.

Tangofantastic · 09/10/2023 21:05

Loubelle70 · 09/10/2023 20:52

Yes they can do this. Dont worry about it. Print it off n post it thru her letterbox 🤣 (youve only got supportive views on there from us 😁)

Thanks for making me
smile 💞

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Tangofantastic · 09/10/2023 21:05

billy1966 · 09/10/2023 21:00

Neither would I.

You sound like a wonderful mum and your neighbour is dreadful.

Can you get a video bell?

All thhat coming and going from her business must be an annoyance for you and your family.

I would be noting EVERYTHING and asking for her to only contact you by email with her complaints so that you can indeed involve his support services.

Ring 101 for advice about her harassment of you about your child with disability.

She sounds absolutely awful and she needs to be informed that HER behaviour is not acceptable.

Stop tolerating her behaviour.

Take detailed notes of her business and comings and goings.

See how she likes it.
Her business is a nuisance for your family.

Time to shine a light on it.

Thank you so so much, feel much better after this support xx

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Rosscameasdoody · 09/10/2023 21:06

readsalotgirl63 · 09/10/2023 15:10

If she installs CCTV then it should only be recording activity on her property. If she records/films you or your son on your property she is in breach of GDPR.

No, unfortunately she isn’t. You are only entitled not to be filmed with cctv in areas if your property where you can reasonably expect privacy. And the front garden is not that. But. Filming a child on their own private property requires the consent of the parent, so I’d go with that.

Leah5678 · 09/10/2023 21:25

AutumnFroglets · 09/10/2023 13:14

He has a fan to help him asleep actually, so that is helpful, but when melting down he needs cold fresh air and change of environment
Try a chiller fan. They blow out cold air.

https://www.jmldirect.com/chillmax-air-pure-chill-2-0-new-improved-personal-air-cooler-and-humidifier?gad=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIy7Sr_vXogQMVU_ntCh3YLD1JEAQYBCABEgLqP_D_BwE

I appreciate it might be hard for her to see him hitting himself or screeching or swearing at himself but he’s a 10 year old boy so I really can’t see why this could intimidate her?
Womens refuges make everyone talk in a quiet voice. Doors are fitted with closers to prevent banging. They all wear rubber soled shoes to prevent noise. Men are not allowed, even nice kind ones. You really can't understand why some women find a male shouting or doing aggressive actions can be very upsetting?

What the hell is this comment? We are talking about a family garden and a little boy not being allowed to play basketball for longer than 30 minutes in his own garden because of a miserable neighbour not a refuge.

Jeez

Tangofantastic · 09/10/2023 21:48

I know! It’s so odd. I worked in refuges a while back and they were lovely safe places but noiseless? No. Lots of noise as more than 50% of women there had their children staying with them after fleeing domestic violence so it was….noisy. And make social workers and police would visit so it certainly wasn’t male free. Safe yes, noiseless no. very odd and factually wrong post from autumnfroglets.

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Daisybuttercup12345 · 09/10/2023 22:07

MrTiddlesTheCat · 09/10/2023 11:04

7am basketball? So thump, thump, thump from 7am. YABU

Also I don't understand why you'd put a 10 year old in meltdown outside the front of your house. I have 2 autistic kids, one of whom is 10, and I wouldn't dream of doing that. It's bad enough that I have to endure it, why should my neighbours have to put up with it multiple times a day. But more importantly where's the dignity and privacy for the child, out in the street for all and sundry to gawk at?

My thoughts exactly 💯

Tangofantastic · 09/10/2023 23:36

AInightingale · 09/10/2023 20:36

You can ask MN to take the thread down.

But OP, I think you answered your own question when you described how rude your ndn had been to the other neighbour with the trees. She's got form. Sounds like she's got a lot of unresolved anger in her heart about something and that's hardly your fault - you're just the target.

This is so kind and thoughtful, thank you xx

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Tangofantastic · 09/10/2023 23:41

Daisybuttercup12345 · 09/10/2023 22:07

My thoughts exactly 💯

He’s not “put out”. He goes out to self regulate, calm down and stim. He’s heightened when he goes out and calms down. Being inside just gets him more worked up in a confined space with his sister and me near him, If you’d read my precious messages you’d see it’s what CAMHS advises. He’s in my secure driveway and he comes in when calmer 🤷‍♀️He used to go into the back garden but she didn’t like the noise of him or happier noise when his sister plays so I stopped that and allowed him out the front. Hence my post, I couldn’t work out whether I was overreacting or if it really was mad that i couldn’t let him outside at all because it “annoys” her. Also if you’d read my messages you’d see he’s not out at 7am, that’s just my house rule for noise, he’s never out before 7:40 and that’s for school like all the other kids on my street 🤷‍♀️I feel sorry for you that you feel it’s an endurance with your children ☹️Sending love for you all xx

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