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Husband fed me a food he knows I have never eaten and never willingly will

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Anon39 · 07/10/2023 10:22

I came back from taking our son to training and as I walked back in my husband asked me if I wanted a sausage sandwich I immediately said yes

started eating it and he said do you know what those sausage are? And I replied in the negative and he started to chuckle and said “do you like it?” So my hackles were up I stopped eating and asked for the package of sausage

he started getting defensive and I just knew it was black pudding (which I do not eat and have never eaten and he knows how I feel I have no feelings if you do eat it and that’s not the point of my post)

I found the package and it was black pudding sausage I was so upset he knew I would never have willingly eaten black pudding. I feel so betrayed and I’ve ended up crying and he has basically told me to grow up and stop being so dramatic he can’t understand why I’m so upset

it’s not really about the food it’s about the breaking my trust I would never think to question him about what type of sausage they were because I trusted him

not to drip feed I am Autistic so I am aware I have issues around food

yes you’re being unreasonable and should have checked (after 20 years of marriage)
no - your partner deliberately betrayed your trust

OP posts:
AllProperTeaIsTheft · 07/10/2023 17:29

But i would assume he wrongly didn't think it was a big deal

Why would you assume that? He knows his wife is autistic and has strong issues with some foods. Does it sound likely that he'd genuinely think she'd find it funny? If you think so, maybe you have as little empathy as the OP's husband.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 07/10/2023 17:29

MolkosTeenageAngst · 07/10/2023 16:25

But if he’d told her she likely wouldn’t have tried it because she would have (wrongly) assumed she didn’t like it!

When I was little the only way my parents got me to try new foods was to hide them in other things, blend vegetables in sauces and then gradually blitz them less small until I got used to the lumps and eventually pieces etc. There were foods I refused to try on principle but that I happily ate when I didn’t know what they were. If they hadn’t done that I’d probably still be living on toast and cereal!

But you were a child. OP is a grown woman who’s been married for 20 years!

stillplentyofjunkinthetrunk · 07/10/2023 17:31

IClaudine · 07/10/2023 10:26

That is disgusting and actually abusive.

it may be massively out of character, if it isn't you need to consider options and make plans to live independently.

echinaceadreams · 07/10/2023 17:33

The autism is nothing to do with it other than perhaps compounding the impact for you. His behaviour was shitty towards anyone.

NatashaDancing · 07/10/2023 17:38

A lot of posters don't understand the concept of consent

denpark · 07/10/2023 17:41

NatashaDancing · 07/10/2023 17:38

A lot of posters don't understand the concept of consent

I've noticed that. It's actually quite concerning.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 07/10/2023 17:43

denpark · 07/10/2023 17:19

I completely agree that people can make mistakes. But he clearly did this on purpose.
If you think about it-
He bought the sausages knowing she didn't like black pudding.
He cooked them knowing she wouldn't want them.
He gave them to her and neglected to inform her of their content.
He waited until she had eaten a little and then goadingly asked her if she liked them.
He then revealed what they were made of.
When she got upset, he then belittled her reaction.
He has since been gaslighting.

It is all premeditated and planned out. Those sausages didn't accidentally appear in their fridge.

Exactly!!

MsDogLady · 07/10/2023 17:47

@Anon39, several years ago you wrote a thread about this man, an abusive alcoholic who had tormented you for years, involving the police, court, and a non-molestation order. You said it was so difficult to leave him because he knew how to manipulate you and make you feel guilty, and the control he had over you made you feel sick with anxiety. Posters were concerned about your children being exposed to such a toxic environment.

I don’t know what has occurred since you wrote that thread, but this
mean-spirited stunt is beyond the pale. It’s clear that he hasn’t changed.

I hope that one day soon you’ll bin this cruel specimen.

Notlaughingalot · 07/10/2023 17:52

INTERNETEXPL0RER · 07/10/2023 12:06

He despises and disrespects you OP.

You don’t trust him and your probably never will now.

You need to make plans to leave him.

So you really think the OP should leave her marriage because she ate black pudding that she didn't even realize was black pudding before she was told?
Right then ....

literalviolence · 07/10/2023 17:53

Notlaughingalot · 07/10/2023 17:52

So you really think the OP should leave her marriage because she ate black pudding that she didn't even realize was black pudding before she was told?
Right then ....

clearly not. it's the cruelty which is why people might think he's not a keeper.

jannier · 07/10/2023 17:58

Notlaughingalot · 07/10/2023 17:03

Why do people take one statement and then give a totally ridiculous comparison? No, of course no one wants to be deceived over the origin of their meat, but that's not the issue in question here. It's about black pudding.

I don't really think unknowingly eating black pudding is something to cry over.

It's the same, someone else has decided you will eat what they think you should because they like it. To many the thought of eating horse, rabbit or black pudding is nauseating others will love it but why should they have the right to trick you into eating it for some perverse feeling of superiority or a joke? What gives anybody the right?

loreau · 07/10/2023 17:59

My Mum does this kind of thing. She’s on the spectrum, we suspect.

She has difficulty understanding why people feel the way they do. She would have a long conversation trying to talk you into liking something you don’t want to eat. Having established that you really don’t want to eat that, she’ll try and trick you into eating it. She thinks you are being illogical and that she is right that it tastes nice.

I agree It’s really really annoying , but I am wise to it now. I try to avoid eating there. I think you probably need to spell it out to your husband who may also struggle to see things from your point of view.

Doing this was a breach of trust
you are my husband - I need to be able to trust you
i know you think you are right
but
Some things are more important than being right
and this is one of them
and you’ve really upset me

stillplentyofjunkinthetrunk · 07/10/2023 17:59

@Notlaughingalot

If it's massively out of character no. People sometimes badly misjudge 'jokes'. If this isn't out of character, yes. Living with a person who treats you like this is much worse than being single.

Therealjudgejudy · 07/10/2023 17:59

My family members do not eat anything containg blood

Notlaughingalot · 07/10/2023 17:59

jannier · 07/10/2023 17:58

It's the same, someone else has decided you will eat what they think you should because they like it. To many the thought of eating horse, rabbit or black pudding is nauseating others will love it but why should they have the right to trick you into eating it for some perverse feeling of superiority or a joke? What gives anybody the right?

I agree that it wasn't a kind thing to do, but the reaction seems OTT to me.

jannier · 07/10/2023 18:05

Ok so if you've never tried Anal sex is it okay to trick you into it to prove you might like it just because some people do?
Consent is about all things not just sex

For some black sausage is in the same food group as snot.

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 07/10/2023 18:07

@Anon39 Purely out of interest, would you have eaten the entire sandwich if he hadn't said anything about its content?

jannier · 07/10/2023 18:10

Notlaughingalot · 07/10/2023 17:59

I agree that it wasn't a kind thing to do, but the reaction seems OTT to me.

But with some people this could cause such massive distrust they would no longer eat. My nephew is autistic he feels people lie to him then we can't get him to see his social worker or gp just because they were on holiday or off sick the day they said they would call. If your food phobic and someone breaks your trust it doesn't mean they can rationalise things like well I actually liked it but will worry more about if something is tampered with next time. Being food adverse is not a choice.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 07/10/2023 18:11

I know. He's probably just sick of tiptoeing around the OPs food issues.

Not serving someone a food they have specifically stated they don’t want to eat is not “tiptoeing around” it. It’s just common sense!

It took much more effort to deliberately serve the OP something she didn’t want than it would have to just serve something she likes.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 07/10/2023 18:16

It's about being tricked. Not nice and disrespectful. I'd expect thus from a 12- year old, not a 20-year partner. Mean.

PandaExpress · 07/10/2023 18:21

This thread has gotten quite hilarious now.
'Sausage eater eats a sausage with a bit of black pudding in it. Some state this is grounds for divorce!'
It's not. Anybody who thinks it is, needs to chill the fuck out!

Rosscameasdoody · 07/10/2023 18:33

PandaExpress · 07/10/2023 18:21

This thread has gotten quite hilarious now.
'Sausage eater eats a sausage with a bit of black pudding in it. Some state this is grounds for divorce!'
It's not. Anybody who thinks it is, needs to chill the fuck out!

As does anyone who thinks it’s right for someone to ride roughshod over their partners’ wishes and make a unilateral decision to disguise a food they’ve been quite clear they don’t want to eat, as something else. It’s a blood product. Lots of people don’t want to eat blood products. Nothing wrong with that. The only thing that’s wrong here is that so many people think it’s not a problem to override the consent of an adult who knows their own mind.

echinaceadreams · 07/10/2023 18:34

I agree this is a consent issue here. And OP had specifically opted out of black pudding. There's no vaugery about it. No excuse. It's appalling behaviour and if not a complete ill judged one off for which he is extremely apologetic then yes, I'd consider leaving him

echinaceadreams · 07/10/2023 18:34

Rosscameasdoody · 07/10/2023 18:33

As does anyone who thinks it’s right for someone to ride roughshod over their partners’ wishes and make a unilateral decision to disguise a food they’ve been quite clear they don’t want to eat, as something else. It’s a blood product. Lots of people don’t want to eat blood products. Nothing wrong with that. The only thing that’s wrong here is that so many people think it’s not a problem to override the consent of an adult who knows their own mind.

Well said

Rosscameasdoody · 07/10/2023 18:37

Notlaughingalot · 07/10/2023 17:52

So you really think the OP should leave her marriage because she ate black pudding that she didn't even realize was black pudding before she was told?
Right then ....

No. If she’s going to leave him, it will be because of the lack of trust this action has engendered. It’s about consent. And if you can’t trust your partner in consent issues - even simple ones like this - then you have to wonder what else he will find acceptable about which to deceive her. He doesn’t respect her. And without respect, you have nothing.

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