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Husband fed me a food he knows I have never eaten and never willingly will

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Anon39 · 07/10/2023 10:22

I came back from taking our son to training and as I walked back in my husband asked me if I wanted a sausage sandwich I immediately said yes

started eating it and he said do you know what those sausage are? And I replied in the negative and he started to chuckle and said “do you like it?” So my hackles were up I stopped eating and asked for the package of sausage

he started getting defensive and I just knew it was black pudding (which I do not eat and have never eaten and he knows how I feel I have no feelings if you do eat it and that’s not the point of my post)

I found the package and it was black pudding sausage I was so upset he knew I would never have willingly eaten black pudding. I feel so betrayed and I’ve ended up crying and he has basically told me to grow up and stop being so dramatic he can’t understand why I’m so upset

it’s not really about the food it’s about the breaking my trust I would never think to question him about what type of sausage they were because I trusted him

not to drip feed I am Autistic so I am aware I have issues around food

yes you’re being unreasonable and should have checked (after 20 years of marriage)
no - your partner deliberately betrayed your trust

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Littlegreene82 · 12/10/2023 17:14

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ttcat37 · 12/10/2023 17:28

@Mothership4two and @pam290358 , the thing is, I don’t have to agree with your point of view. It’s not that I don’t understand what you’re saying, I just completely disagree. So you can get as frothy and mean-girl as you like- I’m not going to agree with you.

@pam290358 I’ve read the OP’s 3 posts on this thread and she doesn’t make reference to her husband being any kind of abuser. She does jokingly say she’s going to wipe his toothbrush around the bog, suggesting she’s got no intention of doing much about sausage-gate and that she’s not that bothered really.

@Littlegreene82 , thanks for point that out, although I’m not sure what my Asperger’s has got to do with anything? Unless you’re suggesting my communication is affected by it? In which case you’re very misinformed and presumptive about Asperger’s (and how it manifests itself in my case). Thanks for also being concerned about my relationship, which is pretty much perfect actually.

Your worlds must be really boring to get so fired up about someone being fed a sausage. Which they enjoyed eating. I feel like I’m in a parallel universe

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ManchesterLu · 12/10/2023 17:52

That's absolutely fucking vile. I don't care what it is, or why you don't want to eat it. If you don't want to eat something, nobody should be able to trick you into eating it.

mathanxiety · 12/10/2023 18:20

What he's done is tell you he thinks your autism is a ridiculous, made up excuse for not eating certain foods (or not being able to deal with certain environments, noise, etc).

It's hugely ignorant and disrespectful.

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 12/10/2023 18:31

@Anon39 How are you feeling now OP?

Anon39 · 12/10/2023 18:52

@ImCamembertTheBigCheese im ok I’m still cross over it and in response to other posters not once did I say I enjoyed eating a few bites of the sandwich I said it tasted different but I thought it was chilli infused and as I’ve never eaten BP before I had no point of reference.

we are going back to therapy because this (I know some people think it’s trivial and that’s fine everyone has their own perspective) but for me it’s a massive trust breach and one I can’t seem to get passed.

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ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 12/10/2023 18:55

Glad you are going back to therapy. It is not a trivial matter. Good luck Flowers

pam290358 · 12/10/2023 18:57

ttcat37 · 12/10/2023 17:28

@Mothership4two and @pam290358 , the thing is, I don’t have to agree with your point of view. It’s not that I don’t understand what you’re saying, I just completely disagree. So you can get as frothy and mean-girl as you like- I’m not going to agree with you.

@pam290358 I’ve read the OP’s 3 posts on this thread and she doesn’t make reference to her husband being any kind of abuser. She does jokingly say she’s going to wipe his toothbrush around the bog, suggesting she’s got no intention of doing much about sausage-gate and that she’s not that bothered really.

@Littlegreene82 , thanks for point that out, although I’m not sure what my Asperger’s has got to do with anything? Unless you’re suggesting my communication is affected by it? In which case you’re very misinformed and presumptive about Asperger’s (and how it manifests itself in my case). Thanks for also being concerned about my relationship, which is pretty much perfect actually.

Your worlds must be really boring to get so fired up about someone being fed a sausage. Which they enjoyed eating. I feel like I’m in a parallel universe

I’ve read the OP’s 3 posts on this thread and she doesn’t make reference to her husband being any kind of abuser.

There are four posts, and yes she does. There have been several references made by other posters to her last post in which she confirms that the marriage broke down and they separated for two years, while they went into therapy. She also said that the reason she was so upset by the latest incident is because they had worked so hard at repairing the relationship. Hardly an indication that she’s not bothered is it ? You seem to be reluctant to accept or even begin to understand that this kind of behaviour can be controlling and abusive. Why is that ?

PabloandGustheGreySquirrels · 12/10/2023 19:18

@itsallforyouandmee A joke is only funny if everyone laughs Biscuit

ISeeARedDoorAndIWantToBreakIn · 12/10/2023 19:58

@Anon39 it’s NOT trivial. You are right that it’s a breach of trust. I’m still angry on your behalf. Hope the therapy works out.

NatashaDancing · 12/10/2023 19:59

It isn't trivial.

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NatashaDancing · 12/10/2023 21:30

I’m not reluctant, I’m saying it isn’t controlling or abusive. Lots of things are controlling or abusive, and it’s really insulting to victims or domestic abuse to suggest that someone feeding their spouse food that they did actually like, is the same as their experience

It is controlling and abusive. Abusive and controlling behaviour comes in all sorts of forms and methods and what the OP's husband did is one of them.

You don't understand abusive and controlling behaviour or consent.

We're getting close to page 40. I'm tempted to fill the thread up with "la, la, can't hear you, fingers in my ears" posts.

T1Dmama · 12/10/2023 21:33

Anon39 · 12/10/2023 18:52

@ImCamembertTheBigCheese im ok I’m still cross over it and in response to other posters not once did I say I enjoyed eating a few bites of the sandwich I said it tasted different but I thought it was chilli infused and as I’ve never eaten BP before I had no point of reference.

we are going back to therapy because this (I know some people think it’s trivial and that’s fine everyone has their own perspective) but for me it’s a massive trust breach and one I can’t seem to get passed.

It’s not trivial, he was awful to do it.

echinaceadreams · 12/10/2023 21:35

I think its awful that so many people minimised this

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*Anon39 · 09/10/2023 10:48

I’m still here I have read every comment and taken on board what everyone has said. In relation to my post 5 years ago (which another posted referenced) my husband and I separated for 2 years and those issues were addressed with therapy etc. and we worked really hard to reconcile our differences.

which is why this was so upsetting for me as for 2 years we have been a well functioning couple communicating effectively and generally putting our all into being an effective partnership such as division of labour.

he has now accepted that he didn’t give me a choice and that in itself was his error and going forwards to prevent any miscommunication or misunderstanding I will cook only for myself*

This is the post you missed.

*Anon39 · Yesterday 18:52

@ImCamembertTheBigCheese im ok I’m still cross over it and in response to other posters not once did I say I enjoyed eating a few bites of the sandwich I said it tasted different but I thought it was chilli infused and as I’ve never eaten BP before I had no point of reference.

we are going back to therapy because this (I know some people think it’s trivial and that’s fine everyone has their own perspective) but for me it’s a massive trust breach and one I can’t seem to get passed.*

And this one too.

This is beyond ridiculous now. Are you really trying to suggest that abuse and control doesn’t happen unless it involves physical violence ? Lots of men use psychological abuse to control and coerce their partners, and this is an example of exactly that. The OP quite clearly is showing us that this man has caused the breakdown of the marriage to the point where they had to go into therapy. He’s destroyed any trust they built up with his latest abusive behaviour, to the point where the only way she can take control is to not eat anything he gives her - and the OP is now going back into therapy.

Now I’ve answered your question, can you answer something for me ? You keep saying the OP doesn’t like black pudding. Tell me where, in any of her posts she has said that ? As has been said numerous times before, what she said was that she would never eat it. Totally different - a conscious decision not to eat something and entirely her right, whatever the reason. And can you also tell me where, in any of her posts she said that she liked it after tasting it ? What she said was that she could taste something different but as she has never knowingly eaten black pudding she has no frame of reference for what it tastes like. Not once did she say she liked or didn’t like it.

He knew she had strong feelings about not eating it and would never knowingly put it in her mouth, so he gave it to her disguised as something else. Then laughed and told her to grow up when she got upset - upset not just at being tricked, but at the thought that after working so hard at building the trust back into their relationship, he thought nothing of betraying it again. How in the world can you justify minimising all of that ? Do you not understand that this type of abuser looks for weakness in their victim, and then uses it against them ? Which is exactly what’s happening to the OP - and for a second time.

You say that it’s insulting to victims of domestic abuse to suggest that this is the same as their experience. Well I would suggest that you are insulting every woman who has suffered psychological abuse at the hands of a partner, by denying that this sort of abuse happens and trying to minimise its’ effects. You seem to be misunderstanding or misinterpreting the OP’s words and I can’t make up my mind whether you really don’t see the difference or if it’s deliberate to suit your own narrative. Either way, it’s exhausting and I can’t be bothered engaging with it any more. I’m out.

CornishGem1975 · 13/10/2023 11:01

Context is everything.

If my DH did this it would be as a wind up, and I'd probably just call him a twat and move on. We have a very healthy relationship. Not for one second would I think he was trying to abuse me. Neither would I see it as a breach of trust. In the context of my marriage I personally struggle to see the big deal.

But clearly OP's relationship is different. And for OP it is a big deal. And that's all that matters.

Mothership4two · 13/10/2023 11:25

@ttcat37

@Mothership4two and @pam290358 , the thing is, I don’t have to agree with your point of view. It’s not that I don’t understand what you’re saying, I just completely disagree.

You don't have to agree at all, but most of your argument doesn't seem to be based on reality. And your responses have been unkind to the OP throughout. You also disagree with the OP and her version of events although that is literally the only source of your/our information.

So you can get as frothy and mean-girl as you like- I’m not going to agree with you.

Never once have I been frothy and/or mean-girl. I think my responses have been pretty measured and patient despite your snidy asides about my dull boring life. I do see the irony that you trivialise quite nasty behaviour by the DP but fairly normal responses from a poster are somehow attacking

Your worlds must be really boring to get so fired up about someone being fed a sausage. Which they enjoyed eating.

As has been pointed out several times OP never said this and literally two posts up from your post the OP said not once did I say I enjoyed eating a few bites of the sandwich.

I feel like I’m in a parallel universe

You are. In your universe the kindly DP decides to expand his partner's palate with a food she has never tried before but he is sure she will love and lo and behold she really enjoys it. And calling out nasty behaviour is silly or weird.

The irony that you have called out posters' attitude as being really insulting to victims or domestic abuse when you have downplayed his behaviour and belittled the OP and her feelings, gaslit her throughout and called her a baby having a tantrum.

I wonder if you made a couple of initial negative comments and are going to stick to them come Hell or high water despite the actual FACTS or OP's updates.

Mothership4two · 13/10/2023 11:47

@CornishGem1975

Context is everything.

Absolutely. However, in any relationship if someone was tricked into eating or doing something they very clearly have a strong aversion to, that is appalling behaviour, not to mention the other party then smirking about it and dismissing their feelings. I have a healthy relationship but if DH did this I would hit the roof.

Mothership4two · 13/10/2023 11:49

@Anon39

we are going back to therapy because this (I know some people think it’s trivial and that’s fine everyone has their own perspective) but for me it’s a massive trust breach and one I can’t seem to get passed.

Best of luck! Flowers

DotAndCarryOne2 · 13/10/2023 12:08

CornishGem1975 · 13/10/2023 11:01

Context is everything.

If my DH did this it would be as a wind up, and I'd probably just call him a twat and move on. We have a very healthy relationship. Not for one second would I think he was trying to abuse me. Neither would I see it as a breach of trust. In the context of my marriage I personally struggle to see the big deal.

But clearly OP's relationship is different. And for OP it is a big deal. And that's all that matters.

I agree that context helps, but then so does nuance. And the point that this isn’t just a simple dislike of a particular food, but the OP’s conscious choice to avoid it, seems to have been lost all the way through this thread. And there is a difference. If someone knows their partner has an objection to a particular food and that they would never consciously eat it, but decides to feed it to them for a laugh, then, regardless of the state of the relationship, surely that’s abuse ? Or at the very least total disregard/disrespect for their views. Any relationship has to have trust as a base, and when one partner doesn’t respect the trust held in them by the other, the trust isn’t going to last long.

Longdarkcloud · 13/10/2023 12:08

Good luck OP. I hope you get the outcome you want.

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