To be baffled at dislike for Victoria Beckham

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whenever there is something online about this woman… the haters come out in force. today someone calling her “a Katie price that can keep a husband”

what is the problem? She seems like a fairly inoffensive woman who has made a success out of her life (and that was her own success: she had it before she met David)

Simeone admitted in the Netflix doc that he dived and Beckham didn't deserve to be sent off. In football, it's game play. You do what you can to get an advantage. If it had been the other way round, and we were Argentinian, we would be saying that Diego was a mastermind.

I think the documentary could have been improved if they had actually interviewed Hoddle and asked him if he regretted ever saying that it was Becks' fault. Or asking any of the fans who were featured on news reels at the time asking them if they thought that perhaps they had got carried away and their behaviour was OTT in hindsight. Because it was.

You could argue that it was the rest of the team's fault for not making it past the penalty shoot out.

I like her too. Don’t agree that people who don’t like her are automatically “jealous.” They’re unreasonable maybe but I wouldn’t call it jealousy.

I think:

People didn’t think she sang that well so why should she end up being the most famous Spice Girl?

People thought she looked a bit miserable.

People thought she was too thin and/or had the wrong haircut/clothes.

People didn’t like it when she and Beckham got “too big for their boots” and did stuff like have thrones at their wedding. Which appears to have been a big joke but nobody understood that at the time.

People thought she was in the papers too much and got sick of the sight of her.

People forgot she was famous first.

@thebellagio NB: Glen H’s autobiography, he discusses DB.

FFS, she's a loathsome woman. She can't sing and can hardly dance; stick a leg up in the air occasionally whilst wearing an artfully styled towel turban? Luckily, DB seems to have got kids into cooking (and eating).

Her so called successful fashion brand? Propped up by him and furlough let alone Roland Mouret designing everything in the first instance. Strangely enough, she managed to pay herself tons. She couldn't even read the PR blurb given for 'her' first so called collection; continuously referring to it as a 'Mad Max' vibe instead of Mad Men.

Strangely enough, all the women who blurbed about shagging him were quite nice 'girls next door' types who did the mistake of not being able to keep schtum by giggling to their friends - and their mates went to the tabloids. Poor girls were terrified by relentless harassment and agreed to tell all for bugger all.

He then learnt to ensure if he dabbled, it would be ladies who had just as much to lose. I'm talking about 'ladies' with significant pre-nups.

Suddenly, nannies were flung asunder (re school pick up - not morning drop off - because they quickly sussed he didn't appear for that and VB was never around) and all those 'ladies / mothers' appeared with fresh blow drys and immaculate makeup. Plus the Holland Park look eg tight fitting leather trousers, high heeled boots and a Gillette.

My big gripe is how she effed up his footballing career. He could have achieved so much more.

She will never get rid of the brand.

Ps. I will never again support England after so called 'fans' treated him.

@IhateHPSDeaneCnt wow not uour finest hour there

Wow, some hate there!!!

Exactly. She s a successful business woman in her own right, she is married to a much desired man, she has a lovely family and is part of a wider family and they all seem to get along.
She hasn't put a foot wrong as far as I am aware.
You can just imagine those who are green with envy nearly crying as they ask, 'What's special about her? What's she got that I haven't?'

I'm baffled at posters being shocked at my response to the initial statement!

Yes, I absolutely cannot abide the woman. Main reason being she fucked up his career.

Other reason being the 'fake' fashion empire / vanity project propped up by him. Because she ensured she was paid mega through the company whilst getting rid of most of her staff - obviously ensuring she made best of furlough until called out on.

At least he had talent.

@SammyScrounge yeh, she could have left him after the RL affair but she swallowed the public humiliation and decided to put her ego second to giving him another chance. And unlike the people on these boards, she had the money to start again, she probably would have met somebody else, life would have been grand. But she stuck with him. Not saying that I'm here on mn threads encouraging women to give cheating men a second chance, I'm not, but watching the documentary it all made sense. He is a family man. He flounders on his own. She certainly did not ruin his career as the last poster believes!! How could he have been any more successful?? He needs to be around family, his, hers, theirs, Together they've bult a big extended family. Watching them all happily devouring a roasted chicken, who cares if his sons aren't as successful as their parents? It's a high bar. As he says, they're not little shits!

In the beginning of their relationship and even in the bits from the documentary you can see how she was outspoken and loud. Her name might have been posh spice but by society standards she was chavvy. She changed after his "alleged" affair and the image portrayed is now of a more shy woman, less outspoken but with an inner strength a great sense of humour too.

I thought she actually came across much better than he did and infinitely more likeable. She made many sacrifices for his career, upping sticks several times, re-settling their kids into schools. He didn't acknowledge their sacrifice, it was just about him and his goals. At his stage in his career there was no reason he couldn't have been present at each of his children's births, his lack of regard for her after her deliveries was shocking.

They also skipped over in the documentary the court case with the ex Nanny who broke her NDA, and said in court, under oath, that Becks used to talk down to Victoria and make her cry

Plus the emails, the Katherine Jenkins incident, charging charities for his time...

I don't think Becks is a nice person.

I think Victoria is lovely.

She refused the Mail an interview once and they've had it in for her ever since. She was styled as Posh Spice but she isn't really posh (and she's always said so herself - come on, it was a cartoon character, not serious - but her father had a successful business so she was better off than other kids at school) and so the Mail would have had it in for her anyway. It's led the character assassination for over 20 years.

I don't think Becks is a nice person. I think Victoria is lovely.

I agree and VB must feel frustrated that, in public, he's some kind of national treasure when he's a very different person behind closed doors. Plus the infidelity which is humiliating for her.

I can't say I like or dislike her. She's obviously pretty determined and driven to succeed, and i guess that's an admirable quality, especially as she doesn't seem hugely talented at any specific skill, it's more a case of working hard to achieve success

However, the two things I really don't like and don't respect her or DB for are the way they've pushed their children into the limelight, posting photos of them all over social media from when they were small, basically vlogging their lives when they haven't been able to consent. And also the constant materialism, all the houses, holidays, spa days, shoved in people's faces.

Yes, the ostentatious consumption is crass at best.

Just finished watching the Netflix show and really enjoyed it. She’s clearly had a lot to put up with but for whatever reason has decided to stick with him - maybe for the kids or maybe because she needs him to continue the brand or maybe because she genuinely loves him. He seems less bothered tbh.

What I think annoys people about her is that she’s so fake - maybe that’s a front she puts up to hide the real her from the world but from the boob jobs and extensions to the carefully curated poses and the falsely posh accent and the designer clothes that she never looks comfy in (and sunglasses indoors!) she just comes across really badly. I’ve no idea why so many people think she’s hilarious or would be fun on a night out, she doesn’t ever seem to let go of her current persona and it doesn’t make me personally warm to her.

@PrintersCourt I must admit I wonder what she'd look like without the hair extensions, the work she's had done and when she's 'off duty' from all the carefully planned poses. Probably very different! My feeling is she's always felt insecure because DB is so incredibly handsome (and looks are so important to her) and she's not as good looking as him and has to work incredibly hard to remain thin.

It's sad because back in the day when she used to smile, and had a more natural, plumper face, she looked so much happier. Her body shape was better and you'd see photos where she genuinely seemed to be natural. All photos now seem so staged, with the pout, the dark glasses etc

It also seemed that she kept her boys out of the limelight a lot more when they were really small, though I guess that's partly because social media wasn't so rampant back then. It feels like Harper has been thrust in front of the cameras as part of their staged lifestyle from the minute she was born. I know there was the ridiculous stuff with Romeo modelling for Burberry and Cruz releasing a Xmas single (!) but at least the boys were a little older. My dd follows the Beckhams on insta and poor harper's entire life appears to have been vlogged : 'here's Harper in her school uniform, here's Harper baking cakes with daddy' God let kids be kids without their entire life on show. That may well be one of the reasons VB isnt popular with a lot of people

She's known for having a very pithy sense of humour and I've read several interviews with her that made me laugh.

Designer clothes and surgery are hardly uncommon among the very rich and famous.

Jealousy.
She has a happy marriage to a man who adores her and despite obv difficulties in the past they have made it work.
a successful career
She has a fantastic body, is attractive ,
plenty of money
a happy family
plenty of support
beautiful home etc etc.
People perceive her as having it all and are resentful and jealous so they to tear her down.

I seem to remember her having a resting bich face and never smiling which I think rubbed people up the wrong way. I think she's nice but you rarely see her personality.

@Whowhatwherewhenwhy1 that made me laugh!
We have no idea what the state of her marriage is! It might be happy but who knows? Yes she's got pots of dosh but most of the stuff posted by/ about the kids seems pretty vacuous stuff.

Personally I don't think her body is fantastic. She looks way too thin. She glams up well but is nowhere near naturally beautiful in the way DB is - and I do wonder how she feels about that because clearly appearance matters a hell of a lot to her.

I know someone who worked with her on a few occasions and for dinner, she ordered a bowl of ice while everyone around her was tucking into proper meals. Certainly don't agree with the idea she 'has it all.'

I can’t imagine feeling on the back-foot & insecure with my partner. Unless incredibly emotionally robust it surely takes toll on you? She was badly bullied too & you are often battle scarred but ‘look who’s laughing now’ as Jessie J might say…

DB surely loves her or he’d not have stayed post alleged affair/s?

if true, she showed no pushover on the post RL ski trip, where allegedly she slapped him around the face.

I wonder if DV hankers after aristo and upper class women? Often a real spark between these & ‘Essex boys’? The removal of her tattoos & curated style point to SW London ‘yummy mummy’ etc?

I have a slight insight into who she really is via knowing of her & those who knew her years ago & my impression was she’s thoroughly decent & kind. Really good qualities.

Harper seems to radiate happiness & confidence I hope this lasts.

She seems funny, intelligent, driven, happy and stylish to me. I bet she'd be a great person to hang out with.

I think this is it. She looks standoffish and pouty at first glance even though she isn't when you hear her speak

DB surely loves her or he’d not have stayed post alleged affair/s?

I think he loves the money the Beckham brand pulls in as a couple/family. He may love her (and I can imagine him not wanting to break up the family for his kids' benefit).

But he's having his cake and eating it if the rumours of regular infidelity are true. He's staying because he has the best of both worlds.