So upset about dp prospects

[Desperatetime]

I don't know what I wish to achieve by posting here but I need it off my chest.
Dp came from another country several years ago and was granted work permission last year I helped him get work through an agency in a factory setting but it's only minimum wage and he has relatives back in his home country who are always looking towards him for financial help due to extremely low wages there.
Dp attended school in his home country but he left at age 14 to work and help his family who where quite poor.
Dp said there was no such thing as leaving school with grades etc and he was never able to release any potential.
What I've found is that dp is actually very clever and appears to pick things up very quickly and is very capable but we are stuck we can't afford training and he is working full-time so no time and I've helped apply for jobs but we are finding his cv is very tricky as hardly any work history here in the uk and no UK education.
He is never selected on any job application rejection after rejection and he is 46 now.
His current employer is so happy with him thinks he's great etc but it's minimum wage and he can't increase his income or learn new things. Please go easy on me I'm upset about this.

And I've met plenty who have tech jobs, working with them right now - so what's your point?
I was born abroad, a woman of mixed South Asian and Black (among other things) descent so I know a thing or two about what I'm talking about.

While I don't deny that racism and prejudice exists it's premature to deduce that it, alone is the reason for a specific person, or group of people, not being hired considering how technical technology roles, like the NHS has a higher than average number of people of non-white descent.

The thing with those roles though is - degrees are meaningless. Even UK degrees. Half of them are outdated rubbish, the other half too high level for the graduates to be of any use. My company hiring since the late noughties used to take on graduates from any discipline and train them up, as the 'degrees' were bollocks. Mathematics, History, all sorts.

Asides from the degree you don't know whether they have any relevant experience, whether said experience is in a field that it's easy to get a job in (FOTRAN anybody0? Despite the media hype tech has always been a boom bust field, it builds up to a bubble then explodes in a wave of layoffs m skills become outdated quickly, etc. Not a steady or reliable field of work in general. Sometimes I regret choosing it but what can I say? I hate being bored more than I hate keeping up with the trends. It's worse than fashion.

Btw have a Google. Computer Science graduates have a surprsingly high unemployment rate... that's why when @BlueYonder57 said that bloke did an MSc I knew he'd gone down the wrong path...

https://medium.com/entrepreneur-first/we-need-to-stop-putting-students-off-computer-science-893c26feccfd

Those who get jobs do the degree AND loads of personal projects on the side. It's really the latter rather than the former that gets you hired. It is an art.... you need to see many things, do many things, then the map of what's happening forms in your mind. Disjointed modules in algorithms, operating systems etc etc don't make any sense until you actually deploy your own stuff and with things like AWS free tier there is zero excuse for people to have no hands on experience before graduating.

OP I’m south Asian and it’s common in my community for men from back home to marry British women (same culture or not) with the intention of being subsidised so they can send money home, often at the detriment of their own household. Even if he was earning well, he would ramp up what he’s ‘sending to his family’ I say that because he will essentially become a cocklodger with the sob story every time you need him to contribute properly. I will bet you his family back home aren’t putting on half the pressure he makes out, yes people can be greedy but he can easily reign it in if he wants, he knows full well you’ll subsidise him but what would he have done if he was single. I highly doubt he’d be making himself single for his family back home who for day to day will manage. I’m not saying he doesn’t love you etc but this relationship is rather convenient for him and you need to look at the bigger picture.

Then he isn't absolutely open to anything, is he?

He's 46 with no real work experience. It's all very well him saying what he wants but the fact remains his CV isn't good enough for him to apply for better jobs. Sorry to sound harsh but I've been quite impatient with his behaviour since you started posting.

What exactly is at the heart of you being so worried about his 'prospects'?

Is it that you want to have kids maybe?
Otherwise you currently can afford your food and rent.

You may have to accept the fact that your DPs main focus for earning is to support his family back home.
They come first, you as 'a family' come second.
That need will never go away.
That's why he came to the country in the first place.

You are not married right? And he depends on being with you as part of his case for staying in the country?

Do you really love him and want to get married to him?

I did want to say this but OP is convinced they are in love... so....

If he has experience in manufacturing and shoe making then I’d try and stay in these areas.
It’s easier to go to a job that he has got experience in.

Unfortunately, I have no experience with either of these so I can’t be much help.

My only suggestion is to keep looking and applying for jobs.
Even if they’re low wages, he may be able to work his way up or work there for a couple of years and get the experience and then apply for higher paid jobs.

I would look at free online courses that he can do at home and add to his CV.

I would also look into translator jobs as he can speak 2 languages.
This might not be regular work or many hours but it may lead to something else and it’s good to add to his CV too.

Yes. It is sounding like OP is his meal ticket.
He is not able to clear mcdonalds interview, is getting rejection for min wage roles.

Op, are you sure he applied to these roles?

Also, you did not answer questions by another poster. How did he live in UK before he met you? How did he manage to get visa unless he is a refugee?

It seems like you are not engaging in conversation which could lead to a some helpful plan for both of you or just you.

This. His behaviour is ridiculous, if his family were truly so "desperate" he would just bloody work those "tedious" jobs wouldn't he? He can't afford to be bloody picky.

*rein it in
*making himself homeless

Again. You can't be translator if your written English is not good. Unless you translate only to the other language which must be on high level even for native

If he has lived here legally for several years he would be eligible for free courses like gcse Maths and English.

I was going to suggest translator too, presumably he speaks Maghrebi Arabic, eventually he could do hospital/ court translating.

There is a real sense of 'applied for Aldi, McDonalds/Timpsons/WHATEVER and heard nothing back so that is no good' in what you say, OP.

You need to apply again and again. And then AGAIN. That is true of everyone, from someone leaving school and someone who is 46.

It can all get in a rut and easier to blame rather than to remember what the aim is. You need to stop blaming his family and he needs to stop looking at what might go wrong.

He should tell the relatives back home to get their own arses in gear and find work locally and not just depend on him (my dad was financially abused by his relatives in his own country). He should then prioritise saving to improve his prospects through training. I know lots of people who've self-funded their studies.

Lots of subsidised evening classes teaching plumbing and construction skills at the local FE colleges in my area. No educational qualifications involved.

Could he try for a hospital Porter, food or patient? generous pension which is useful for the future, potential to do lots of overtime as they are desperately short of porters in some hospitals. Potential to train to be a Health Care Assistant if he was that way inclined.

He's unlikely to ever be a high earner but the overtime and shift enhancements in health care are not to be sniffed at. He would also likely get more paid holidays than he does now and sick pay.

ILR sounds like ex-Home Office 🤗

Completely pointless trying to get academic qualifications at his time of life. I'd suggest he tries a job as a delivery driver then take the various licenses to get to full HGV. No qualifications or experience needed to follow this path and pay is £30k+
A Bulgarian immigrant I know did this and did the various tests overseas as they are cheaper there.

From this post and OPs answers he doesn't want to do courses, or doesn't want to spend anything bettering his self.

I'm not being horrible but if he isn't willing to do any courses or anything to better himself because it hasn't hasn't helped his friends, then why should he be entitled to better or more work.

He is 46 with no real work history, no qualifications, struggles with written English, of course companies are passing him by because he's hardly bringing anything to the table even for McDonald's.

When he wasn't working were you sending money back home for him, it seems like you are a cash bank to him, I hope best for both of you but I think you want different things.

Why hasn't he got help polishing his cv?
I suggest he does that then see if he can get on an EFL(?) course to improve his written skills
Has he included his shoemaker experience?
I know Timpsons are very understanding employers and employ ex prisoners for example
I think your his meal ticket, bluntly and you're taking responsibility for him when he's not trying hard enough himself
Are you actually getting enough from the relationship or do you stick with him out of duty?
Obviously you don't have to answer, but please think hard about it

You're

TheLightProgramme
Part of the reason is time and lack of funds to a certain extent anyway.

There will usually be people within his own community who facilitate immigrants to find work and training when they get here, has he connected with any of them?

who did he connect with to get over here as usually that agent will also have jobs leads

Can he apply for a permanent role at the company where he currently works as agency staff? When I was younger, I worked for agencies and often would get taken on by the company in question if they had any vacancies. Then he can think about getting promoted internally.

Also he need to work on his written English if he is wanting to make more NMW. Wether it’s with you or an hour a day online but that is a priority.

I understand what you’re saying about time but in reality when you’re trying to better things for yourself you find it. It’s hard as hell but you have to find it from somewhere, he is playing life on hard mode at the moment but there’s a way through.