To think that 14 year olds don’t need educated on sex positions?

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My dd doesn’t want to go to school this afternoon as she is embarrassed to go to her sex education lesson. I spoke to her about how it was good that young people were being taught about sex and she went into more detail about why she is uncomfortable.
Last week they discussed sexual positions and different ways to have sex including anal. She was mortified and said she doesn’t mind knowing about sex (we’ve always been honest about the birds and the bees from a young age anyway) but she finds this awkward and far too much information about which she has absolutely no interest currently.

I am no prude, but was quite shocked at the detail being discussed and agree with her it’s unnecessary for this age group.

If you have a discussion about what is sex students will mention anal and oral sex as well. Students do need to know what this means. Knowledge is important so that they know what they are consenting to and how they can be safe. It is difficult to know where the discussions will go. If a child says what about sex where the girl is on top then the teacher can hard say oh no we can't mention that. I think it can seem shocking to adults. I grew up with virtually no sex education. Whilst it might be uncomfortable for us and for some teens it is better to have things explained factually than not know.

Don't forget these evil evil teachers are childless too, horror of horrors.

She’s 14, in 2 years time she can legally have sex. I think it’s a good thing to have as much information as possible. There’s no need for such outrage.

I don't know if it's already been quoted, but the latest National Survey of Sexual Attitudes and Lifestyle shows participation in heterosexual anal intercourse among 16 to 24 year olds rose from 12.5% to 28.5%.

So yes, it does need to be discussed at 14 if in two years time 28% of them will be having anal sex.

I disagree with encouraging 14 year olds to have sex. And I disagree with "they're going to do it anyway, so we'd better describe it in detail so they're good at it."

My son was 6, he's 14 now. If I found out a teacher was talking to him about his or her fav sex positions and how to relax your bottom so anal is less painful, being fired would be the LEAST of that teacher's worries from me. If he has questions about sex, he asks me or his father. Not some teacher, especially not one who is eager to have sexual conversations with children.

It's the same as parents who have huge drinking parties for teenagers at their house because "they're going to do it anyway." Yes, lord forbid you PARENT your child, much better to be their pals.

You can twist it however you like. There is no moral or decent justification for teaching teenagers how to be good at anal or oral sex. That is NOT the teacher's role. It's part of the overall push to sexualize children as early as possible and normalize adults having sex with children. We call it grooming.

There is no moral or decent justification for teaching teenagers how to be good at anal or oral sex.

No-one is teaching them this for Christ's sake.

I’ve spoken to mine about theses things early on. It’s all out there and they say most kids have seen porn by start secondary school age so teaching them about what is what is really important.

my teens never lived me talking about this either but someone needs to give them unbiased info so they can question the porn later on and not just think that’s how it should be.

The problem with kids being taught about anal in a ‘factual’ way is that it normalizes it as something boys do to girls. And this makes it harder for girls to refuse it.

It’s such a porn soaked culture that we need porn critical messages and classes in schools to show young people there is an alternative to ‘porn culture’. And that alternative is positive and leads to better relationships and much better sex, frankly.

There is absolutely no need to talk about sexual positions in school. That’s just part of the agenda of the organizations coming into schools to deliver this stuff.

Yes, they are. Check out the books they are insisting need to be on the shelves in elementary schools (that's kindergarten through 5th grade here). Clear instructions on how to give a blow job. The author of "Gender Queer" said herself it wasn't appropriate for children, but it's transphobic/homophobic/racist/bigoted to object to a teacher teaching that book in class.

These things ARE absolutely happening, that's why teachers are all over social media helping each other figure out ways to hide it from parents.

Please provide the titles of these books and then please explain who "they" are who are "insisting" that these books need to be in schools.

With proper sources, not social media hearsay.

There have been lots of comments on this post that say they are being taught how to have anal sex safely. So, yes. In that sense, they are being taught how to have anal sex. Which normalises it.
I was never taught it in school. I knew of it by the time I came of age. I knew to refuse it, because it hadn't been normalised to me in the classroom!

They also get taught about consent, preventing pregnancy, and STDs. None of that is teaching them to be "good at sex", nor is it even teaching them how to have sex.

As a female I would not have wanted to be in a mixed sex class talking about anal sex, the boys would have somehow made it leery and uncomfortable, however in a girl's/ women only chat talking about how this is is a Specialist kind of sex , acceptable if you're comfortable with it, but absolutely not if you're not, then yes

But it is teaching them that anal sex is part of sex and how to do it safely, like other forms of sex. No?

I love the stretches in this thread

Teachers are now teaching their FAVOURITE sex positions now?

And "anal is a way of having sex, especially amongst gay men but there are heterosexual couples who do it too. If you do engage in anal sex then you must be careful, make sure there is lube and preparation and be clean or you can get injured. Its not something you have to do, just like any sex" is not "so today I'm going to teach anal sex. Here's a silicon ass, now you spread the cheeks like this and ..." which is what you'd think they were doing from comments here

It also doesn't normalise it. It gives people the facts so they can enter into it with knowledge and know what is going on and what to say no to.

We teach slavery and genocide. Does that mean we are normalising these too?

don't know if it's already been quoted, but the latest National Survey of Sexual Attitudes and Lifestyle shows participation in heterosexual anal intercourse among 16 to 24 year olds rose from 12.5% to 28.5%.
before after or during it being taught in schools?

It's really important to teach it, so kids are aware! If they don't know about it, they might not be able to vocalise a no. It really is very important.

Next we’ll have people claiming that teachers are giving a live demo in the class!

@ButWhatAboutTheBees
"anal is a way of having sex, especially amongst gay men but there are heterosexual couples who do it too. If you do engage in anal sex then you must be careful, make sure there is lube and preparation and be clean or you can get injured. Its not something you have to do, just like any sex"
That is bad enough! That is totally normalising it! My message to my daughter (when she is old enough to know and feel comfortable talking about it!) Will be 'Don't do it. You get NO pleasure out of it. It hurts and can cause injury. Dump any man that attempts to pressure you into it' I'm glad my generation didn't get it normalised in school!

Well, as they are now talking about their favourite positions, maybe they can bring their partner in for it!

It's not normalising it and some women DO enjoy it.

And any man who tries to pressure you into ANY sex should be avoided surely?

We had two teachers who were married to each other at our primary school, one taught year 6, it was tradition for the year 6 students to confirm to the younger ones that Mr and Mrs Johnson did in fact give a live demo 🤣

You literally said that some heterosexual couples do it and do it safely like any other form of sex. Of course that's normalising it.

Some women like swinging and being whipped. Should they teach that too?

I can imagine 🤣

I remember the awkwardness when we were being told to check our breasts for breast cancer and the teacher who was married to the deputy head said "but your partner is the one to ask ad they will notice a difference" and you could sense everyone thinking about what that meant for the couple 🤣

I wanted to add, in response to @PandaExpress this:

I am of an age that, when at school, we were taught about safe sex. The lessons weren't led by teachers saying 'sex is great, we encourage you to start engaging in sexual activity immediately,' but it was recognised that teens were having sex and the 'sex is bad, you must abstain from it' message wasn't helping young people. In this case, knowledge is key.

And I don't think schools are 'normalising' anal, the porn industry is. Educators are acting in reponse to the fact that young people are experimenting sexually, often unsafely. We're a long way from the days of teaching abstinence - why should this be different? Or are you of a mind that by discussing safe sex practises we are giving the children the motivation to start having sex? IMO, it's time to accept that young people are engaging in these activities seen in porn and discussed between friends, so rather than making it an off limit topic (and let's face it, making it seem more intriguing and possibly desirable in the process) we need to give them the facts of 'it can be a risky activity but if you are going to do it, reduce the risks by....'