AIBU or is mumsnet slowly being infiltrated by women hating men.

[NotSuchASmugMarried]

Am I imagining things or is it getting worse here. Every single time we post something a poster will immediately pop up and hijack the thread with a pro-men agenda instead of actually contributing to the thread.

Please tell me if you agree. I can't possibly be the only one who thinks this.

Every single time we post something a poster will immediately pop up and hijack the thread with a pro-men agenda

Really? Every single time? Even on threads about Avon catalogues or people nicking shoes or Uniqlo bags?

I think you're exaggerating a tad.

OK, not everytime. But a lot of the time, and a lot more than it used to be.

Not every single time but quite often. Every thread on male violence has some NAMALT-er popping up to defend her son. I think most of them are men. Or 16 year old.

Yes, I’ve noticed it too.

Ah well, if it keeps them away from more harmful pursuits :)

I haven't noticed, can you provide examples?

I think a lot got attracted by the Russell Brand threads and then stuck around to try to correct all these upstart women on here. There have always been flurries every now and again and we're definitely having one at the moment.

In all fairness I don't think it's getting worse, no.

I think there's always been a tendency on here which is (to put it very kindly) "traditionalist". The people who grumble about invocations to LTB for example on the grounds that its undermining marriage. Or the women who accuse working mums of "farming out" their kids to childcare. Or the people who pop up on threads about male violence towards women with comments about how they "fear for their sons" in this dreadful feminist world.

I have been on here a decade and it's a constant but I don't think it's got any worse. I don't think this is men most of the time, either. I think its usually women with strong internalised misogyny.

One of the reasons I like MN is that this sort of nonsense is robustly tackled for the most part.

You can't stop the Turkeys voting for Christmas tendency but you can robustly point it out, which reliably happens on most threads.

Yer, they are rearing their ugly faces more frequently lately, but I'm not particularly bothered by a bunch of saddos with nothing better to do with their lives than trolling Mumsnet, so I leave them to it.

I could, but I can't be arsed. Go have a look for them yourself if you want.

The women fearing for their sons really boil my piss. I have a son. I don't fear foe him nearly as much as for my daughter.

It’s not like we can’t ignore them. They can’t comment without reading, so it may rub off on them. They might accidentally learn something while they are here. I certainly did!

I have noticed a lot of men generally, just cropping up a lot giving a straight man's perspective or asking Qs (but mostly chipping in with their views/ advice) from a DH/DP perspective.

In some ways I don't mind it, it's a open forum on the internet and it's good men are engaging in quality discussions that exist here. On the other hand, I feel like mumsnet is a sex based safe space predominately and want it to be for women with men maybe popping in to read and benefit from our wisdom, respectfully keeping quiet.

With another one incoming any time now OP to tell you that MN is actually full of misandrists. That men have as much right to post here as women. That women on MN are just bitter, all the men they know are lovely, the worst behaviour they've experienced has been from women and they feel sorry for our sons.
Oh and that they're speaking as a WOMAN. Because they're absolutely definitely a woman. What makes you think they're a man??? They have lipstick and a lovely hubby who's lovely remember.

One of the reasons I like MN is that this sort of nonsense is robustly tackled for the most part.

Definitely this. Aggravating though those posters are, MN is still pretty refreshing in its overall response to them.

I agree and I find these sorts of comments moronic.

YANBU.

It's got so much worse. Mumsnet themselves need to address this. The usual modding isn't tackling it adequately.

You can actually read this thread title two ways..

Women who hate men, or men who hate women.

It's always had a large number of women who hate men, for obvious and not unreasonable reasons.

If you are saying ' men who hate women', then I haven't noticed anything..this site is a magnet for trolls, so it's possible.

I just take every thread as 'hypothetical ', rather than them being real.

Men have always been a part of MN, but the type of men posting seems to have changed.

We can’t have a thread about police, abortion, SA or the workplace without certain posters popping up to tell us we’ve misunderstood but it’s ok, they’re going to help us out.

I've been on here for over 10 years and can't say I've noticed posts espousing hatred towards women from men - but then really nasty ones would be deleted promptly?

There are quite a few NAMALT but I don't think that's all men posting is it? Not every poster declares what sex they are.

I have noticed shocking hypocrisy and double standards though, but that's been women defending a woman's violence!

And no, I'm am not a man.

Agree . I found heading confusing. Thought it was women hating men .

@5128gap

That women on MN are just bitter, all the men they know are lovely, the worst behaviour they've experienced has been from women and they feel sorry for our sons.

Yeah this is a particularly pernicious one. Anyone who has an alternative perspective on how a marriage should run, anyone who would prefer to remain single than be in a relationship with a caveman, anyone who wants to work or is unable to remain at home FT is automatically "bitter" because they can't live up to the Stepford Wife dream.

I've lost count of the number of times I've posted things on threads about poor behaviour in relationships and been told "you're just bitter because you're single".

I'm not single, I'm just capable of a critical perspective on heterosexual relationships as opposed to living in a constant state of rapt gratitude for having found and ensnared a man.

YANBU at all.

But sadly it’s bound to happen, other media (news) has mentioned and stilen stories from here.
Other people then found out about this place, and misogynystic men LOVE to spend time with women, police them and tell how women should behave.
So here we are.

I used to be on different site, that was pretty much all women.
And same thing happen, mass media mentioned the site, it was soon filled with men. Trolling, harrassing, claiming ’misandy’🙄 and all around ruining it all.
Sensible women (so most previous users) left and only angry men and pick-me women was left.

I’ve worried same would happen here.

I’ve had it insinuated on threads that my womanhood is suspect and I have “an MRA agenda”. In part I think it’s the username. But it is certainly exacerbated by the reality that I no longer accept many feminist, or left leaning commandments.

There is a cultural shift occurring. Fewer females are willing to stay quiet or pay lip service to concepts for the sake of acceptance into “the tribe”. Having seen the price of GoodThink translated into an attack on reality itself it no longer seems benign to nod and smile, or pipe down for the sake of avoiding conflict or dogpiling.

Women owe no concept, no group, no philosophy their agreement. We can demand good arguments, solid evidence and reject pressure for blind acceptance of the tenets of a faith based movement.

Perhaps there are some posters who are exactly what you perceive them as. But some of the posters who get perceived as that, are in fact actual women with a differing POV.

YABU. Not about the men infiltrating mumsnet, but I have noticed when men cry out for help, trying to get custardy of their children because of an abusive ex they always get interrogated. They are not believed and there is always someone on the thread who wants to twist them into the abuser.