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To end reconciliation plans over this?

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Sutured · 30/09/2023 20:53

I split up with my long term partner a month ago over a house.

Basically I moved in with him to his flat that was far too small. It was only meant to be temporary and we'd agreed we'd buy a bigger flat together. That had been the plan for about four years.

I've never owned a flat or home and I'm 46, so this was really important to me. Without sounding like a sappy moron, us buying a place together was genuinely a dream for me and I'd been looking forward to it for so long. Saving up and all that.

I have two DCs in university, so when I moved into DPs flat temporarily, it definitely wasn't a family home as it didn't have bedrooms for them. So it was a big, big, big issue.

DP promised we'd buy a bigger place but then didn't. He kept putting it off and after a year of no movement from him on it, I gave him and ultimatum that either we moved into a family home for me and DC, or I was moving on my own.

So....I did exactly that. I had to move a fair distance to be able to afford a 3 bedroom on my own, but I needed space for the DC and - of course- had to rent because I couldn't buy on my own

I was completely devastated. I felt so let down and ultimately betrayed by DP and couldn't believe really that after all my investment in a joint future that I ended up renting a house miles from anywhere on my own.

Of course DC will come "home" for a few weeks a year, but it still isn't the joint family home and future I'd been wanting.

DP spent weeks apologising and begging and asking how he could fix it. So I started speaking to him again. Mostly about the fact that in our 5 year relationship he makes decisions that aren't for us as a team and are more for him as an individual.

To my horror, he then said to me he'd been looking at bigger houses to buy ON HIS OWN. I was apoplectic with rage! After dicking me and DC around for a year he miraculously is able to buy one as soon as I leave????

I went literally BALLISTIC and didn't speak to him for a week. Then he came back to me, begging blah blah and said he realised I was right about everything etc and that he couldn't lose me and we started discussing reconciliation.

Anyway, after a week of that, he told me tonight that he bought the house last week!!! Literally after I told him that was the worst possible thing for us as a couple, he literally went to see it, made an offer, sorted the mortgage and FUCKING BOUGHT IT.

He is crying and begging and saying it's OUR HOUSE but it fucking isn't is it? Committed couples don't act like this do they???

I've run this past my best friend and she thinks IABU, that he bought a big house and says its for us and wants to be together in it but this doesn't feel normal???

I feel heartbroken

Is it me?

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KitchenSinkLlama · 02/10/2023 08:07

My first thought is how the hell did he buy a house in such a short period of time? Surely he has just had an offer accepted?

cheezncrackers · 02/10/2023 08:55

Sutured · 01/10/2023 19:14

So many nights out and holidays and use of the car did he take up/cost you if he was only there 12 weeks of the year?How much did you spend? Just for him, not you and dc?

That was for 18 months. I spent probably about £60,000 on holidays and activities and events and trips and gifts over time.

I never wanted to go on holidays. I am more of a "week in a cottage in cornwall" kind of person whereas he always wanted to go to African or something.

This is madness! You wasted £60k over 18 months on holidays you didn't even want to go on? You have no one to blame but yourself. Your judgement is just completely lacking - no wonder this guy took you for a ride.

margotrose · 02/10/2023 09:11

There seems to be a lot of victim blaming going on.

It's not victim blaming to say that a grown adult can't just blame all their poor choices on other people.

OP has adult children - she should know better.

margotrose · 02/10/2023 09:17

That was for 18 months. I spent probably about £60,000 on holidays and activities and events and trips and gifts over time.

You're a fool.

FabFitFifties · 02/10/2023 09:33

If you buy a house together (I assume the bulk of the money coming from him, as he has a house to sell) he would lose 1/2 his house to your children if you died. At his age, I wouldn't be taking that risk, with a house I'd worked hard for. YABVU indeed. He should have had the guts to tell you this earlier though.

Sutured · 02/10/2023 10:26

You wasted £60k over 18 months on holidays

I'm not sure why people keep doing this.

NO, not on holidays. As I said, HOLIDAYS, ACTIVITIES, GIFTS, EVENTS. Over close to six years.

That means everything. Not just holidays. We also both did sailing courses as a hobby with another long term goal being sailing the world. It also includes activities like our family gym membership. It includes many things.

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MyGooseisTotallyLoose · 02/10/2023 10:36

Sutured · 02/10/2023 10:26

You wasted £60k over 18 months on holidays

I'm not sure why people keep doing this.

NO, not on holidays. As I said, HOLIDAYS, ACTIVITIES, GIFTS, EVENTS. Over close to six years.

That means everything. Not just holidays. We also both did sailing courses as a hobby with another long term goal being sailing the world. It also includes activities like our family gym membership. It includes many things.

£60k on fripperies while in rented? Even over 6 years that's 10k a year, nearly £1k a month on holidays and fun stuff?!

Ponoka7 · 02/10/2023 11:01

I doubt that your adult children would ever be welcome. He's protected what's his and his children's inheritance. He's lied to you and will continue to do so. You aren't a family until you marry.

AutumnFroglets · 02/10/2023 11:24

Oh he is saying now, "you can get the keys with me and it will be "ours" and you can decorate it and choose the tiles for the floors and it will be our home.
Ahhh....so he now wants you to make his house better to live in and also improve it's future saleability and future price? He wants you to put in time, effort and money for his investment?

He saw you coming a mile off OP, and he still thinks he can manipulate you. Get rid.

I also agree with a pp. Downsize to a rented 2 bed. There's still room for your children but they will soon be getting their own permanent homes. Start looking after yourself and saving your money properly. Smaller house, less gifts, 1 week hol rather than two etc. Start getting serious about your future now.

Sutured · 02/10/2023 11:46

£60k on fripperies while in rented? Even over 6 years that's 10k a year, nearly £1k a month on holidays and fun stuff?!

That's about £450 a month each. Not on "friperries" on living an enjoyable life. An annual holiday, some city breaks, hobbies and things like train tickets for our kids to visit. I also said I paid for our car. Birthdays and Christmases.

We both had great jobs and lived in London. I made £68000 initially (dropped to £42000 because I got long covid and had to change to a less stressful job). He made £62,000 when we met because he was a part time masters student (changed to £108k by the time I left).

We had enough money together to save AND have hobbies, a car and an enjoyable life. The point is we had a system where he handled savings and investments and I paid for day to day things for us.

We were more than adequately saving for a house, and successfully did that according to our agreed plans, so why do you care how we spent the rest of our hard earned money?

It seems some people think I should have been operating independently. Maybe. But then the last few years he earned massively more than me so what are you suggesting I did?

"Sorry honey you go on holiday I can't afford to come"

"Sorry love, you go to the theatre, you take someone else"

Collectively, we had a lot of money. I wasn't expecting to be messed around. I had a partner who earned more than me. We agreed to a joint life where HE would save everything and I'd cover day to day expenses.

That wasn't "just" holidays, it was things we needed (like a new kettle) or things he needed - like acupuncture when he had back problems.

He was able to save thousands each month. It was working fine if he'd have stuck to what we mutually agreed.

He considers it, anyway "our money", he's been offering today to put the house in my name too - and this isn't him being generous, he knows that money was a mutual effort and that I made life decisions based on that.

I dont really feel much inclined to accept this offer. After years of working towards a common goal, I feel like cutting me out of the process (even the choice over which house to buy) was actually an awful thing to do.

He says "we can sell it in a couple of years and then you can choose our next house" but after this I can't imagine trusting him again. Maybe people have different views, but to me these are choices couples make together.

If he'd changed his mind of buying a house and he was trying to reconcile the relationship then he should have talked to me before unilaterally making this decision. I'd only been gone a few weeks, so it seems like bizarre timing.

As others have said, I feel it makes it obvious he dragged his heels because he didn't really want to buy a house with me. I don't think this has anything to do with inheritances or protecting finances (my parents are wealthy and his are not).

I think it's flat out commitment phobia. Incapacity for making team decisions for mutual benefit, which as I said, he has form for. He admitted this and claims he's going to go to counselling. I'm not imagining it, he felt mentally unable to feel "tied" to a house with me and DC and that's why he's done this.

Of course now we have another house he's free to now offer everything. I can be on the deeds. I can choose the furniture. Bedrooms for DC. And he says home is wherever I am and he can't possibly live without me or us.

But when we really needed a suitable roof, he didn't feel any of those things. This is the mindfuckery of commitment phobes. They never do anything when it matters buy once you're 10 feet out the door they're suddenly on their knees.

I'm less angry today. But I think he's an unsafe partner. I think he broke his promises and left me and DC in a shit position and has manipulated everything so he got to keep control.

This isn't my idea of a family.

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brielliance · 02/10/2023 11:59

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 02/10/2023 07:52

Move in with him, store your stuff there. Keep him at his word that you don’t have to pay for anything and don’t! Save you money and buy your own hose asap

If a man did this he'd be called a cocklodger.

bemorebernard · 02/10/2023 13:33

If he can't live without you he can professor by selling g and buying jointly then can't he

And if he can't do that - bye bye .

bemorebernard · 02/10/2023 13:34
  • prove it not professor!
margotrose · 02/10/2023 13:53

That's about £450 a month each. Not on "friperries" on living an enjoyable life. An annual holiday, some city breaks, hobbies and things like train tickets for our kids to visit. I also said I paid for our car. Birthdays and Christmases.

That's a stupid amount of money to be spending - especially when the man you're spending it on has no legal obligation to you and you're hoping to buy a home in the near future.

Honestly, the more you post, the more foolish I think you've been.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 02/10/2023 13:54

margotrose · 02/10/2023 09:11

There seems to be a lot of victim blaming going on.

It's not victim blaming to say that a grown adult can't just blame all their poor choices on other people.

OP has adult children - she should know better.

Like woman who goes for a run on her own after dark is making a poor choice perhaps?

OP has not done anything that would be a problem if it weren't for someone else preying on her. She trusted someone untrustworthy. Saying it is her poor choices that caused this is victim blaming. It is his abhorrent behaviour that has caused this.

margotrose · 02/10/2023 14:01

Like woman who goes for a run on her own after dark is making a poor choice perhaps?

No, nothing like that.

OP has not done anything that would be a problem if it weren't for someone else preying on her. She trusted someone untrustworthy. Saying it is her poor choices that caused this is victim blaming. It is his abhorrent behaviour that has caused this.

But she did make poor choices - of course, that doesn't mean he didn't behave poorly himself, but I don't think we can go through life blaming other people for our silly decisions.

Choosing to spend 60k in six years on "stuff" while your boyfriend saves for a house "for both of you" is just daft.

Sutured · 02/10/2023 14:04

@margotrose

We earned between us £8500 a month. Spending £900 of that on activities we enjoyed and things we needed isn't "stupid".

We also both studied very hard and worked bloody hard to get to a point of doing well and if we want to learn to sail or go to the theatre now and then, that's not "stupid".

I more than paid my dues over 15 years as a single parent working harder than anyone I've ever met, without a red cent from their Father and if, in my 40s I wanted to live an enjoyable life, I think that's up to me.

We managed to save £145,000 with which to buy a house. So we were doing just fine - thanks!

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1stTimeMummy2021 · 02/10/2023 14:10

@Sutured Surely he can pull out of the house purchase and buy a different house with you? My husband and I have sold our house and are buying another one. The sale fell through on the first house we were buying so we are now buying another one. Until exchange you can pull out any time. We sold in June, we aren't even close to exchanging and are desperately hoping to be in by Christmas.

useitorlose · 02/10/2023 14:17

OP, I have only read your posts and I find it hard to understand why you are being attacked here. You loved and trusted someone who has screwed you over and are justified in ending the relationship over it. I hope his house falls down around his ears.

Sutured · 02/10/2023 14:21

@1stTimeMummy2021

Yes, he can. Solicitors and something else have been instructed so he says so he'd lose money, but he says he will do that if its what I want. He didn't sound keen on that though. He just kept saying he should never have done it and he's sorry.

Then he started asking me what was a better alternative and frankly being quite manipulative. Implying there was nowhere better and I was going to cause us to lose money. It was literally the first house he looked at!!!!

We had this money saved more than a year ago. We had a deal that that was the time we would buy. He left me and DC in a shit position by refusing to even go and look at houses.

Now I've moved and am tied to a lease elsewhere. I've not even unpacked fully yet. I've been setting up the kids bedrooms. It was a HUGE trauma for me ending up having to walk away because the shared life I believed I was in because he was literally leaving me no choice.

Im still fairly emotionally distraught over being in that position in the first place, he suddenly wants to to decide immediately on what house and where. It feels like a huge decision and he's trying to pressure me.

This pattern of making unilateral decisions without thought to my wants, needs or wellbeing is something he has form for. I understand his last 10 year relationship broke up for the same reason.

It really isn't me here.

Im realising this is just who he is.

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tabulaisrasa · 02/10/2023 14:26

Yes, he screwed you over, and no way should you consider a future with him. He got what he wanted, and f*ck what YOU wanted.

You learned a lesson the hard way; you should both have been paying for fun activities and saving equally, rather than you enabling him to save at your expense. If he really wants to make things right, he needs to either hand over a chunk of cash or sign over a percentage of the house to you, because he misled you and you're the one who has ended up going without because of it.

You cannot trust anyone. Bleak, but almost always true. You especially cannot trust anyone who screwed you over intentionally for years, is still doing it, and STILL LYING ABOUT IT.

Sutured · 02/10/2023 14:26

Note: previous relationship he took a job after 6 years together 400 miles away and unilaterally decided he'd commute home at weekends.

I knew this.

I am a bloody idiot.

He just framed that as their relationship being dead in the water and him getting a fantastic job offer and her refusing to join him.

I now wonder if her version might be entirely bloody different.

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margotrose · 02/10/2023 14:27

Sutured · 02/10/2023 14:04

@margotrose

We earned between us £8500 a month. Spending £900 of that on activities we enjoyed and things we needed isn't "stupid".

We also both studied very hard and worked bloody hard to get to a point of doing well and if we want to learn to sail or go to the theatre now and then, that's not "stupid".

I more than paid my dues over 15 years as a single parent working harder than anyone I've ever met, without a red cent from their Father and if, in my 40s I wanted to live an enjoyable life, I think that's up to me.

We managed to save £145,000 with which to buy a house. So we were doing just fine - thanks!

Well, we'll agree to disagree. Because now he has a house and you're stuck renting in an area you don't even like.

margotrose · 02/10/2023 14:30

You chose to spend sixty thousand pounds on stuff while he saved his money. That's what's stupid. Why on earth did you let him put so much money in his own name while you just spent yours?

Spending and saving needs to be split proportionally between you, especially when you're not protected by marriage.

Sutured · 02/10/2023 14:31

@tabulaisrasa

I admit, I was stupid to trust anyone this much.

He has offered to sign over ownership of part of the house to me. He also offered to give me £10,000 to compensate me for the costs of moving here as he says that was his fault.

  • but honestly, I was gently discussing reconciling with this man after splitting up with him because he wasn't making housing decisions in a way that made mutual sense and met both our needs.

Him doing this kind of cements that I did the right thing. I don't really want half his house that he pissed off and got without me

I want someone I can trust who makes life choices with me as a team and who respects me too much to treat me like a passenger.

I just feel like he's shown me that we are not a family.

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