Temperature not freaking everyone out?

[JKDcot]

Meant to be 23/24 degrees in London next week? Not usual for early October… anyone else think it’s bonkers that climate change so obvious and still nothing being done my government and corporates

I believe in climate change. I'm just a London denier.

That must be a false memory because I can assure you it wasn’t.

I agree it's freaking me out too. My friend of 35 years has a birthday the beginning of October it was always cold years ago we would fo out wrapped up. Over the last few years it's been dresses and sandals. It seems to be the norm now it's as if October is the new September.

Its a good job you don't work in any kind of STEM field.

At least I can read a graph! You thought the dark line was a model didn’t you. The mass of light gray scribbles are the many different models all overlapping and not agreeing with each other.

Exactly this @Syndulla

@IslaWinds here you go

it being warm fifteen years ago means nothing. Around twelve years ago it was 28C on my birthday at the beginning of October. This had never even nearly happened in my lifetime (I’m middle aged) and it was quite scary. Climate change was happening then but it is speeding up.

It amazes me how people work so hard to delude themselves. It’s understandable and I often try to convince myself that everything is fine. I know it isn’t fine though.

The AR4 is a single model, absolutely not lots of model's. They agree with each other very well (if you know anything at all about data analysis).

Ten years ago I was boiling in London it was so hot and sunny at the end of October but no I didn’t think about it, however i think global warming is worrying and obviously not a new thing but gradually increasing and I do think about it

Yes, this. :(

It will all be ok as long as you pay the ulez charge 🙄😂

I wouldn't freak out too much. We got married in the mid 1980s in mid October, and had our honeymoon in Somerset and Devon. it was so hot (not just warm) that most of our photographs from that time show us in tee-shirts. I remember climbing Glastonbury Tor in sweltering heat. Warm weather in October is fairly normal. Not a 'climate change denier' by any means, but I do think too many people are inclined to confuse weather with climate. Even here in Scotland, it's often quite mild till Hallowe'en, when the change becomes marked.

The graph is an overlay of multiple AR4 models done and that is why the graph says ‘AR4 Models’ plural and shows the light grey lines for all of them. They don’t all agree.

On your second graph with the tide gauges and satellite observations, you do realise that the big gray triangular area is where all the IPCC models covered? Not very accurate.

London seems to have its own eco system and always hotter than anywhere elas in the country IMO. Up north it's been low 20s today, we've had warm Septembers before. Yes of course we all need to do our part for the climate but it is also very unpredictable in the UK. X

12 years ago today it was 30 degrees up North!

1st October and I am sitting here sweating (I'm in Essex). God, it's actually muggy. Something is seriously wrong with our climate.

I think my 13 or 14th birthday at the end of Oct over 20 years ago we had similar weather! Bouncy castle outside and everyone in just tshirts or jumpers....
Although I cannot wait for sweater weather and wearing knitwear and boots!

It's absolutely a thing and called a heat island.

I remember those temps 20 years ago.

Think I remember that, walking our dog in shorts and sliders! The school I was at had the heating on and couldn't open my blinds as sun shone directly in, windows were glued shut, soon got that changed! X

You aren't wrong, they burry there head in the sand.
It annoyed me, that Rishi cancelled the green charges, saying it helps with the cost of living crisis, which is a joke, there must be better ways to save money and not screw up the environment in the process.

What ??? we had a piss poor summer now the beginning of October is mid 20s, get a grip FFS

That's because it is normal. Did you say anything about the cold temperatures and rain we had throughout the summer though or is that due to climate change as well?