Temperature not freaking everyone out?

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Meant to be 23/24 degrees in London next week? Not usual for early October… anyone else think it’s bonkers that climate change so obvious and still nothing being done my government and corporates

A friend got married 11 years ago on 2nd October - absolutely scorching 30 degrees, quite a few guest got sunburnt eating canapés and quaffing fizz outside 😂 Yes climate change but the UK has notoriously mild autumns and winters especially in the south. If you go to mainland Europe a lot of trees will be turning early September, much cooler climate in the more northerly countries even those with similar latitude.

Humans are speeding up at natural process. The planet is currently going through a warming stage, and eventually both icecaps will melt, and we'll be back to tropical and subtropical weather patterns; the issue is the speed at which it's changing, geophysically speaking this would have taken thousands of years, now it will be a few hundred years, therein lies the problem with adaptation. Adaptation takes millennia and we don't have millennia.
Historically speaking, human migration on a large scale, coincided with crop failures due to adverse weather patterns, for example one of the reasons the Goths and Vandals where so successful in sacking Rome in 410, was due to a very hard winter enabling easy passage across the frozen waters of the Danube and other rivers, making it a much quicker journey to Rome.

I am in general very concerned, yes.

It feels like we've already and very recently and very quickly tipped into movie grade scenes:

Wild fires
Floods
Earthquakes
Dangerous heatwaves
Very unpredictable seasons
Storms

Yes we've had the occasional warm Autumn in the past but; together with all of the above, it's definitely disconcerting

We moved 12 years ago,so before that we were sitting on Brighton beach mid November,it was 18c in t shirts. 5 years ago,at our local fireworks display mid October,it was 18c at 10 pm. In my life time, the sea has frozen, along with The Thames,we have had water supply disconnected used standpipes in the road, because of draught.

It's not uncommon to get some higher temperatures in October. We got married 12 years ago in the middle of October and it was that temperature, we all sat outside like it was a summers day 🤷‍♀️

Its a blip
October often fluctuates
There's also plenty being done by various governments and corporations

I am not denying climate change is real but this wouldn’t be the example I’d use to show that. I’m in Sweden and whenever we get an unusually warm autumn we call it brit summer. I believe you refer to it as Indian summer. It happens quite often and has been for a long time.

i am much more concerned when I see all the wild fires. That is literally our planet on fire.

There’s absolutely not enough being done by governments to slow change. Cop28 will likely confirm that. At least from a UK perspective the current government will probably be gone soon.

I'm not convinced that earthquakes or any other tectonic plate activity can be attributed to global warming @FusionChefGeoff. Although, I am happy to be corrected.

The weather is so fucked the gulf stream was interrupted this year.

We are so royally fucked and I agree with you OP: dealing with it should be the most pressing headline issue for all world governments. Nothing is as big a crisis. Yet we hear very little.

Not my bit of London!

Climate and weather are not the same thing.

Climate change is terrifying and a massive emergency. However I do think some people seem to have lost understanding of how the seasons turn. Some on here seem to assume September means automatically getting out the woolly jumpers and hot chocolate. It is not going to suddenly turn frosty and chilly because it is September.

As a kid in eighties rural Kent it was very common for us to be in summer uniform until mid October and my parents would often not light the wood buring stove (no central heating) until late October/early November.

The odd mild spell in early Autumn is nothing to panic about, where we need to look is long term temperature and rain patterns and increased extreme weather. Which all evidence suggests we should be very concerned about.

The temperature does go a bit up and down for a few weeks around this time of year, and then all of a sudden we’re plunged in to bitter coldness for about 3 or 4 months. I’ll be glad if we do get some mild weather for a bit longer. Although, I am stood at the bus stop right now and it’s cold! I have my big coat on and can see my breath so not exactly warm.

YANBU. At all. The horrible truth is that the climate emergency will affect us all whether people are weirded out by the temperature or not. Governments, big corporations and the press worldwide know this but not enough is being done. The kinds of sustainable actions required as set out by the UN are not being adopted quickly enough. What happened in the med, Canada, New York, Spain etc etc this summer will happen here and still there’s not enough political will to act. I do not know what the answer is but I do as much as I can personally to try to limit our family’s impact - solar panels, much less meat, we don’t fly anywhere but we need massive structural changes and fast.

I think it’s important to share the graph from the BBC link above for all those that think this is ‘normal’. You can deny the cause to yourself all you want but if you describe it as ‘normal’ you’re factually wrong.

I remember as a kid, staying in a caravan in Dorset. Went every year in October half term, was always warm and sunny. That was 40 years ago

I thought they arrested people for arson? Pretty sure that was the case for the Greece fires in any case. Not just this year, but also the ones a couple of years ago.

I’m sick to death of this attitude is just up to government and companies to fix. Yes they are a massive part but the attitude by the average person regarding climate change are shocking. If you don’t want to be controlled by a net zero agenda start acting responsibly.

The issue with wildfires regardless of how they have been started is that conditions have changed to be drier and hotter and therefore the impacts of that fire are going to be far far worse.

There’s no doubt the planet is warming as a result of human activity, but not I’m not freaking out.
Ultimately humanity may struggle to survive. Countries and people are too stubborn to see the problem and so nature may eventually take over.
And maybe in thousands of years, travellers will visit earth and uncover the remnants of what once was…

I don't know if that particular weather can be attributed to global heating but you're not wrong to be worried about how slowly our government is responding, and what Sunak is doing at the moment with policy, basically trying to snuggle up to the climate deniers, turns my stomach.

Lucky London.

It's 10C and pishing it down with rain in Scotland

I vividly recall we had a spell of exceptionally hot weather in October 2011 as my baby had just been born and I remember taking him for a walk in just his nappy it was just so hot, like the middle of summer.

I'm with you OP totally.

The irony of people on here saying that it was warm in London 10 years ago does my head in, they don't seem to understand that global warming didn't start up last August, it's been accelerating since the industrial revolution

I’m reading a book at the moment looking at how we service all the ideas to get to carbon neutral using the earth’s resources.
We are going to HAVE to open up mines in this country to service all the lithium batteries we need and to build wind turbines which have a massive copper core to them.
It’s easy to say switch to alternative, but how we get there has to be considered too.
If we stop drilling for oil we will have to get used to a world with reduced plastic. Take a look around your own home and imagine anything with plastic no longer existing, or only existing in very scarce numbers. This includes a lot of clothing as well as day to day items we use.
The small changes we make now are not enough, something far more radical is needed. It’s really easy to virtue signal with not travelling by planes, recycling, using electric cars etc but the change needs to be massive. Humans are stubborn and it will take some global crisis to make a difference.
In the meantime it’s worth teaching children old skills that are rapidly being lost due to mechanisation, because whilst they may not need them, their own children might.