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Rishi has absolutely lost it, hasn't he?

599 replies

noblegiraffe · 23/09/2023 19:04

What with his random shite this week about scrapping a non-existent meat tax and an imaginary 7 bins, actually scrapping his own home insulation workforce that was only set up a few months ago, scrapping any useful bits of HS2 and now scrapping A-levels (which is so far removed from what is actually possible in schools right now that it's not even funny), what the fuck is he on?

He's just flailing around madly scrapping everything in case someone, somewhere might vote Tory over it.

And he was supposed to be the sensible replacement to Liz Truss.

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Fightyouforthatpie · 05/10/2023 16:35

What really worries me about Rishi's basket of random shite is that it will be just ridiculous enough to appeal to enough loons to get the Tories elected again.

SerendipityJane · 05/10/2023 16:36

43ontherocksporfavor · 05/10/2023 16:22

The smoking thing by img won’t last . They need the tax!

One of the dirty secrets of the smoking ban is how much it cost us all.

I suspect you can easily account for a penny on income tax to pay for it. Maybe tuppence. But you need to think about it. Which isn't really what we do as a whole, is it ?

anniegun · 05/10/2023 16:43

He is a man of his people (right wing muti-millionaires being his people)

DuncinToffee · 05/10/2023 17:09

Sunak is a time traveller, filming his announcement to cancel HS2 before a decision was made.

Or maybe he is just another liar

SerendipityJane · 05/10/2023 17:17

It really is a line that will start nowhere to go nowhere

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67021225

E2A: Who'd put a penny into any project the UK government has been near ?

Also the costs for any public tender will have just doubled, as companies compliance departments insist they cover the risk of the plug being pulled.

HS2 construction work

HS2 will not go to Euston without private funds

If the money cannot be raised then passengers travelling to and from central London will have to change.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67021225

Fightyouforthatpie · 05/10/2023 17:35

Several people have pointed out that if they'd started from Manchester, the money to go the sainted golden capital of the world would have been found.

verdantverdure · 05/10/2023 17:51

SerendipityJane · 05/10/2023 17:17

It really is a line that will start nowhere to go nowhere

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67021225

E2A: Who'd put a penny into any project the UK government has been near ?

Also the costs for any public tender will have just doubled, as companies compliance departments insist they cover the risk of the plug being pulled.

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I don't know why I'm quoting you @SerendipityJane when I have no words.

Just...I despair.

If the Tories were on a mission to fuck up our country even I after we boot them out of power they could scarcely do more damage than this.

jgw1 · 05/10/2023 18:22

43ontherocksporfavor · 05/10/2023 16:21

They just love the glory amid the big announcement but they can’t be trusted. They reverse all sorts. Look at the increase in NI to pay for NHS!

I thought the EU were paying for the NHS, and 40 new hospitals?

jgw1 · 05/10/2023 18:27

verdantverdure · 05/10/2023 17:51

I don't know why I'm quoting you @SerendipityJane when I have no words.

Just...I despair.

If the Tories were on a mission to fuck up our country even I after we boot them out of power they could scarcely do more damage than this.

Could it be with their slogan "Long term plans for a brighter future" and the subsequent train crash of a conference that is all a subliminal message to us.
If we want to plan for a brighter future we must remember not to vote for them?

Passepartoute · 05/10/2023 18:31

He's gone strangely quiet on the boats. Are they trying to keep Braverman out of the headlines?

jgw1 · 05/10/2023 18:33

Let's be fair to Rishi, he hasn't lost it as much as some of his Ministers and MPs. I mean what it must be to have to work with some of them day in day out, enough to drive anyone into the fridge.

(Can you drive a helicopter into a fridge?)

BIossomtoes · 05/10/2023 20:44

Fightyouforthatpie · 05/10/2023 16:35

What really worries me about Rishi's basket of random shite is that it will be just ridiculous enough to appeal to enough loons to get the Tories elected again.

There aren’t that many loons.

Hawkins0009 · 05/10/2023 20:49

Rishi, knows excatly what hes doing and what his strategy is.

Mountaineer0009 · 05/10/2023 20:54

i believe the meat tax, have been discussed as a potential policy to address environmental concerns related to livestock farming and its contribution to greenhouse gas emissions, that said i could be wrong but thats my understanding of that part of his perspectives.

jgw1 · 05/10/2023 20:55

Hawkins0009 · 05/10/2023 20:49

Rishi, knows excatly what hes doing and what his strategy is.

And I am Jesus.

Hawkins0009 · 05/10/2023 20:56

jgw1 · 05/10/2023 20:55

And I am Jesus.

very good, how about parting the red sea please ?

jgw1 · 05/10/2023 20:58

Hawkins0009 · 05/10/2023 20:56

very good, how about parting the red sea please ?

That is part of the strategy to reduce sea level rises.
Also if you part the sea, migrants can't cross on boats.

Hawkins0009 · 05/10/2023 21:09

jgw1 · 05/10/2023 20:58

That is part of the strategy to reduce sea level rises.
Also if you part the sea, migrants can't cross on boats.

if any boats are illegal, then why are the coastguard or who ever is responsible for law enforcement on the waters, not intercepting the boats as soon as they set of from x country ?

Fieldofbrokenpromises · 05/10/2023 21:14

Hawkins0009 · 05/10/2023 21:09

if any boats are illegal, then why are the coastguard or who ever is responsible for law enforcement on the waters, not intercepting the boats as soon as they set of from x country ?

The answer depends on where x country is, but I think in most cases it’s because the act of getting into a boat and pushing it into the sea isn’t illegal.

jgw1 · 05/10/2023 21:14

Hawkins0009 · 05/10/2023 21:09

if any boats are illegal, then why are the coastguard or who ever is responsible for law enforcement on the waters, not intercepting the boats as soon as they set of from x country ?

Well it would depend upon the law in that country what made the boat illegal?
Perhaps a lack of running lights, or some other reason for not being sea worthy?

jgw1 · 05/10/2023 21:15

Fieldofbrokenpromises · 05/10/2023 21:14

The answer depends on where x country is, but I think in most cases it’s because the act of getting into a boat and pushing it into the sea isn’t illegal.

No, you are mistaken, in some countries boats are illegal. Banned, against the law, forbidden to be a boat.

Fieldofbrokenpromises · 05/10/2023 21:17

Also there is very little incentive in the case of France to stop people who are so determined to leave France.

Fieldofbrokenpromises · 05/10/2023 21:18

jgw1 · 05/10/2023 21:15

No, you are mistaken, in some countries boats are illegal. Banned, against the law, forbidden to be a boat.

😂

Passepartoute · 05/10/2023 21:18

Our coastguard can't intercept boats in other countries' territorial waters anyway.

Hawkins0009 · 05/10/2023 21:22

Passepartoute · 05/10/2023 21:18

Our coastguard can't intercept boats in other countries' territorial waters anyway.

so as soon as any boats entered uk waters as an example and the boats or purpose is not legal, could the coastguard then turn them around and escort them back to their country of origin ?