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Anyone up who knows what this could be? DS in pain.

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daydreaming3 · 23/09/2023 06:09

DS (4) was fine all day yesterday. We went out for dinner last night and he ate all of his (including beans which may be relevant). We then had our weekly family movie night, DS had some squash and a tiny bit of chocolate whilst watching the movie. Normally on movie night we let the DC stay up later than normal so they usually sleep in aswell.

He's now woken up at 4 this morning crying saying his stomach hurts. I instantly thought its because he ate so much last night so encouraged him to go to the toilet which he did. He did a poop but said his stomach was still hurting.

He's now white as a ghost, feels really cold and clammy to the touch and is saying his tummy hurts so much he can't stand up. I've got him to walk a little bit which he has but he's bent over whilst doing it bless him.

I don't want to take him anywhere yet incase it is just wind from the beans Blush but I would have thought going to the toilet would have helped ease that a bit which it hasn't. Anyone had this with their little ones?

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OHVanessaShanessaJenkins · 23/09/2023 06:13

Have you given him any pain relief?
If he is pale, clammy and can’t stand up because of the pain you need to get him seen.
Take him to the hospital.

cryinglaughing · 23/09/2023 06:14

It sounds more than beans if he is white as a ghost, cold and clammy.
Only you know your child and if they are a whinger or stoic 🤷🏻

I would be ringing 111 for advice.

DisquietintheRanks · 23/09/2023 06:15

I'm awake.

When he says his "stomach" hurts, does he mean his stomach, or lower down (intestines)?

Is he running a temperature? Is his abdomen soft or rigid?

cherryassam · 23/09/2023 06:16

Will he let you touch his stomach?

Has he got a temperature?

billsbear · 23/09/2023 06:17

White, cold and clammy isn’t symptoms of wind. I think it’s worth getting medical assistance, better to be safe than sorry

cherryassam · 23/09/2023 06:19

The cold and clammy is concerning - I think 111 at least might be needed

DisquietintheRanks · 23/09/2023 06:20

Trapped wind can be excruciating and can cause the symptoms you describe as can constipation, but so can other, more serious things. I think medical advice is probably a good idea.

Peekingovertheparapet · 23/09/2023 06:21

My 9yo was similar a few weeks ago, only it was combined with vomiting. He was seen in a&e (sent by OOH GP) for query appendicitis. It wasn’t, thankfully, but he did have a comparable set of symptoms. He went back to a&e a couple of weeks later, with similar symptoms but eventually all resolved. I’d take him in tbh.

though actually I do recall an occasion where he did have trapped wind and I gave him some Coca Cola (old wives tale) which helped fairly quickly)

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daydreaming3 · 23/09/2023 06:21

@DisquietintheRanks @cherryassam he has let me touch his stomach but winced when I did. It's just around his belly button that he says is sore. His stomach feels soft but I can't touch it too much as he says it hurts too much.

He just walked to the toilet as he said he felt sick. He was a tiny bit but it was just a bit of bile rather than sick.

He's not one to normally complain about things, he won't even go and sit on the sofa now he's just sat on the bottom step of the stairs on his own bless him as he says that's where he wants to stay for a bit.

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Glasssand · 23/09/2023 06:21

Does he have a temperature? Does it hurt when you press his tummy? It could just be trapped wind , or the start of a tummy bug. But if you're worried then always best to get checked

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daydreaming3 · 23/09/2023 06:23

Forgot to add he doesn't have a temperature, just feels cold and clammy to the touch. I'm worried if I take him in anywhere and it's just trapped wind they will think we've wasted their time

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itsgettingweird · 23/09/2023 06:24

Pain starting around belly button with other symptoms could be appendicitis.

I stress could. Don't want you worrying unnecessarily.

The pain then travels down to right usually and hurts when you release the pressure off the belly rather than apply it.

So I'd be going straight to a and e. Better to go and it be nothing (including the beans!) than wait and it be something.

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daydreaming3 · 23/09/2023 06:24

@Peekingovertheparapet that's what I was worried about but he says it's near his belly button so hopefully not apendix. I do have some Diet Coke in the fridge so I could give it a try but at the moment he doesn't want to eat or drink anything

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Mummy08m · 23/09/2023 06:27

Call 111, they'll ask you lots of questions of things to check that we might not think of. I find 111 pick up the phone quite quickly

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daydreaming3 · 23/09/2023 06:27

Thanks all I will give 111 a call just in case then

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margotrose · 23/09/2023 06:30

Please take him to get checked over. If the appendicitis then the sooner he's seen the better.

At four years old he won't be the most accurate when it comes to the location of the pain.

Peekingovertheparapet · 23/09/2023 06:30

@daydreaming3 ah, the thing is early appendicitis pain actually starts near the belly button, it migrates to the lower right quadrant later. Tbh if he’s in so much pain it’s an a&e job, 111 can’t help you, other than examine him, say the pain is concerning and you’ll end up there anyway.

TiptopTommy · 23/09/2023 06:31

Appendicitis pain does usually start in the middle before it moves to the lower right. If 111 takes ages I would just take him in.

everythingthelighttouches · 23/09/2023 06:31

I know it would feel silly to have gone into A&E but it could be appendicitis so I would go. Drs have a really low threshold for wanting to check out young children.

Only you/ he can say if his pain is severe and if he usually does this (it sounds like not). Trust your instincts if you think this is unusual for him.

If you’re really unsure, if it would make you feel better before you go, you could call 111 for advice. I’m pretty sure they’ll send you in though and then you’ve just lost 3 hours.

Now is quite a good time to go if you are going.

Gunpowder · 23/09/2023 06:34

I agree with everythingthelighttouches, I’d go in now before it gets busy. I don’t think you would be wasting anyone’s time and if you are sent home because of wind that’s a brilliant outcome!

Mummy08m · 23/09/2023 06:39

Calling 111 can help you jump queue at a+e so I'd usually call them first imo (unless it's clearly a 999 issue then call them first)

Pluviophile1 · 23/09/2023 06:40

Call 111 for advice.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 23/09/2023 06:44

daydreaming3 · 23/09/2023 06:23

Forgot to add he doesn't have a temperature, just feels cold and clammy to the touch. I'm worried if I take him in anywhere and it's just trapped wind they will think we've wasted their time

No healthcare specialist will think a parent worried about their child's health has wasted their time with that set of symptoms.

namechangedforthis21 · 23/09/2023 06:46

I would call 111. Don’t worry about wasting their time this is what they are there for.

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daydreaming3 · 23/09/2023 06:47

Just got off the phone to the 111. They have requested a call back by a clinician within 30 mins and if that doesn't happen they are passing it over to the ambulance service. He's struggling to stay awake now and can't lie straight as he says it hurts too much so I'm guessing we will end up at a&e either way.

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