Russel has spoken

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On Instagram, has anyone seen? What are your thoughts?

I'm glad all these men are now being exposed. They thought they got away with it, and now it is time to pay the price for treating women like shit.

Its fairly obvious he's encouraging people to go to Rumble because he is no longer making any money from Youtube. People pay to see his videos on Rumble so thats why he's pushing it. Interesting how he isnt encouraging people to support his youtube channel any more now that there is no income attached to it. Surely, if his information is so important (as he says it is) he'd still be making videos for free wouldnt he? After all, doesnt he want people to "stay free"?

Its all about the money.

Well said.

I have no idea what RB has done or what he hasn't done.

However, an example of trial by media is the Cliff Richard case. He was vindicated in the end.

The following is from Wikipedia:

Cliff Richard - Wikipedia

In August 2014, Richard's apartment in Berkshire was searched after a complaint to the Metropolitan Police's Operation Yewtree, which investigated sexual misconduct allegations in the wake of the Jimmy Savile scandal. Richard was not arrested, and strongly denied the allegations. The BBC was criticised for its coverage of the search. The former Director of Public Prosecutions, Lord Macdonald of River Glaven, QC, criticised the police force for its "completely disreputable conduct" and said its action could make the warrant unlawful.

He voluntarily met with and was interviewed by members of South Yorkshire Police. He was never arrested or criminally charged. Subsequently, David Crompton, chief constable of South Yorkshire Police, was criticised for his interactions with the BBC, and publicly apologised to Richard.

Richard said he was "obviously thrilled that the vile accusations and the resulting investigation have finally been brought to a close". But he said his naming by the media, despite not being charged, meant he had been "hung out like live bait".

"My reputation will not be fully vindicated because the CPS's policy is to only say something general about there being 'insufficient' evidence. How can there be evidence for something that never took place?"

It was subsequently reported that during the 22-month police investigation a man was arrested over a plot to blackmail Richard. The unnamed man in his forties contacted Richard's aides and threatened to spread "false stories" unless he received a sum of money.

In October 2016, it was reported that Richard was suing the BBC and South Yorkshire Police. Legal papers were filed at the High Court in London on 6 October 2016.[168] South Yorkshire Police later agreed to pay Richard £400,000 after settling a claim he brought against the force.

• The Guardian estimated that the BBC's costs for legal fees and damages had reached £1.9 million after losing the case.*

Why uneducated? Why do you think they would be uneducated? Uneducated in what exactly? Very well educated people can also be raging misogynists. I refer you to most of human history.

And if you look at the data, people who believe conspiracy theories tend to be well educated and to be people who pride themselves on doing their own research, being independent thinkers.

It’s massively simplistic ( and self serving) to think that people who have opinions you despise are vulnerable or a bit thick, or a bit of ‘education’ ( whatever you think that is) will sort them out. And it’s not true.

And yes, I utterly despise RB and always have. The revelations on him do not surprise me.

I hope that those who have spoken to the media about their experiences with Russell Brand feel able to go to the police, and that this ends up in a court case or court cases.

If his defenders say Russell Brand is meant to be completely innocent until proven guilty in court, does that mean they think it's safe to leave their daughters with him? They wouldn't be the slightest bit concerned and take his reputation into account? And it's not trial by media, it's exposure by media.

Then you should read this.

I wouldn't leave my daughter with any stranger, whether they were a celebrity or not.

I’m going to go ahead and believe the multiple women who don’t know each other over the massive twat who’s now some sort of cult leader because people are actually stupid enough to fall for his bollocks.

people who pride themselves on doing their own research, being independent thinkers

Oh, the classic do your own research line! That usually means absorbing the ramblings of grifting conspiracy theorists like Brand.

I believe the women.

I will believe the court if/when it gets there I still have some faith in the justice system (hanging by a thread most days) I don't believe the media or randoms on the Internet

He reminds me of Rasputin.

@S910441

Thank you. I am aware of the original use of the phrase. However I think that the majority of people using it in the 21st century mean it, as PP did, in the more widely used manner, which I'm sure you were aware of and understood in the context of her reply.

It always used to be that, when the media did an exposé on someone, they handed the dossier over to the police as well as publishing their findings.
Even the News Of The World did that and, God knows, they were absolute gutter-dwellers.

I do not like this recent trial by media attitude, it’s dangerous. Too many innocent people are having their lives ruined by it. In some countries, it’s ended by lynching and murder.

i have never liked Russell Brand. I’m not qualified to say whether he is innocent or guilty. All I know is that he has had some horrendous allegations made against him.
They need to be tried in court. If the judicial system is letting victims down, then that’s what needs addressing.

A media-fuelled frenzy is not in any way a substitute for that.

It’s just an attempt to keep the money rolling in. He wasn’t removed from YouTube, the platform exists for him to use still. They ceased the adverts so he can’t make money from it. It’s only the income stream removed. So he’s moved to rumble as he gets paid on that platform. And now putting out begging shit for folks to go pay to see him on rumble.

it’s just preying on vulnerable people who will pay. And he talks some shite. Man’s accused of raping or sexually assaulting 8 women so far, and he’s trying to keep the money rolling in by selling conspiracy theories.

innocent until proven guilty

This is a lovely phrase that is absolutely correct for the law.
I'm not the law though. He never denied having a relationship with a 16year old girl in his 30s. His stand up comedy was absolutely disgusting, even by standards of 20years ago. There were many signs of what was to come.

He has a whole raft of allegations against him, has dug his own grave for years.

I worked with someone who hid in plain sight, abused their position and took hideous advantage. They were eventually caught and indeed found guilty by law.

"Innocent until proven guilty" is not something I will ever live by. The police can and the law but I'm not. The person I worked with lived by that rule and it served them very well whilst covering their crimes up, while the rest of us suspected. Most people have a gut feeling but never speak up because they can't prove it. It doesn't mean people aren't guilty.

@BelleHathor Thank you for posting that.

What do the MPs and government get from stopping his access to monetising his platforms?

I'm trying to establish whether this is a government that are seeking to act fairly and reasonably in light of the allegations or if there is indeed some darker theory at play, which RB would like us to believe.

I think the title of this thread is part of the problem. It's like a cult. Just giving him airtime like he craves.

Just to note that Caroline Dinenage is chair of the cross-party Parliament select committee for culture, media and sport. It is not a government role so isn't an example of government overreach.

Yesterday afternoon the Russell Brand story was slipping off the front pages and had all but disappeared before his latest contribution on Rumble late last night

Now it's back as front page news again

Yesterday was hopeful that the furore was dying down and the next time we heard about it would be from the Met announcing either the outcome of their investigations or his arrest

This was Katy Perry's nickname for him.

That’s not true. Plenty of research has been done into the profile which is typical of the conspiracy theorist , and nearly all align, and it’s not what you say, it’s someone untrusting, who has a desire to be unique, is antagonistic to others, a desire to be superior, and has high levels of paranoia.

https://neurosciencenews.com/psychology-conspiracy-theories-23531/

Except.you need an account to access Instagram and a lot of people don't.

The Cliff Richard situation will have been recognised and learned from with this.

Note that RB is not cooperating with the police as Cliff did.

Have the police said this ?