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Russel has spoken

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Whyismyfacealwaysdry · 22/09/2023 22:31

On Instagram, has anyone seen? What are your thoughts?

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lollylimejuice · 24/09/2023 20:35

It's a weird one. He's innocent until proved guilty. That's the law.

I have never watched him perform or read anything he has said.

I'm told I'm a bit of a prude which is fine with me so I have never watched Jonathan Ross or Keith Lemon either.

I did watch 14 minutes of the Channel 4 documentary about him this morning and that was enough for me.

Prude that I am, I dislike vulgarity. Cheap laughs and I can't for the life of me work out why nice people would pay for tickets to go to one of his concerts and laugh at his inane vulgar humour. It says a lot about them.

derxa · 24/09/2023 20:50

Bingbangbongbash · 24/09/2023 18:17

I’m sorry you have health issues, but if it is connected to the vaccine, it will be one of the very rare serious side effects. It could also be a coincidence.

And you might be suspicious of the speed, but that’s because you fundamentally don’t understand the science behind the vaccine or tge way science research is done.

Most of the time taken to bring a new drug to the market is raising money and finding participants for studies. Neither was an issue during Covid.

The basis of the vaccine was also well tested prior to the pandemic and so they weren’t starting from scratch.

Be suspicious but don’t mistake that for truth.

Except for the fact that I have had consultants and other HCPs agreeing with me.

And you might be suspicious of the speed, but that’s because you fundamentally don’t understand the science behind the vaccine or tge way science research is done.
The nurse who was teaching me how to self inject my drugs told me that she refused to take the vaccine at all for the very reason that was suspicious at the speed of the roll out. You're not sorry about my predicament at all and serious side affects are not rare. It would have kinder not to respond to my post

Againstmachine · 24/09/2023 20:55

Wills · 24/09/2023 19:08

@Jumpingthruhoops
There are plenty of cases where individuals are wrongly accused and there are plenty of sayings in our culture that would back up the idea that even the accused should remain anonymous until proven guilty. A actor I really like, Craig David, (think Dave Lister from Red Dwarf) was accused of rape. He successfully over turned the case and proved his innocence but struggled to get his career back on track because his public profile had become so tarnished (think "nothing sticks like mud" and "no smoke without fire").

Yet... I 100% support @Its5656 statement. You only have to think of Jimmy Saville to realise how important it was to reveal him. For the survivors of his reign of terror it must have been like opening the flood gates. Yes sometimes this policy is wrong, but most of the time it's the right approach!

Would it have took you two minutes to get the right person really , Craig Charles and Craig Davis are two different people.

Ffs

squareyedannie · 24/09/2023 20:57

Who's Craig Davis and didn't Kes ruin it for Craig David?

vlo · 24/09/2023 20:59

Againstmachine · 24/09/2023 20:55

Would it have took you two minutes to get the right person really , Craig Charles and Craig Davis are two different people.

Ffs

Craig Charles was later on Coronation St and now works for the BBC with a regular radio slot. He also gigs and is a frequent fixture at festivals.

threatmatrix · 24/09/2023 21:04

I’m glad you used the word allegation. Why hadn’t he been arrested. The mother put her in the taxi and took 15 years to complain. Reputable family eh.

vlo · 24/09/2023 21:05

threatmatrix · 24/09/2023 21:04

I’m glad you used the word allegation. Why hadn’t he been arrested. The mother put her in the taxi and took 15 years to complain. Reputable family eh.

Who are you talking to and what are you talking about?

Wills · 24/09/2023 21:08

Sorry, profoundly dyslexic as in I mean seriously - diagnosed etc - not just someone who can't spell and wants to claim dyslexia! Bloody get names wrong all the time. yet have an innate super power that enables me to remember the kid's names, just not the parent's. But am serious! For years I thought his name was Daniel Craig. I'm seriously glad you spotted my error and I cringe about getting it wrong yet again, but I feel that regardless of names my thread still stands. Just that I may be accusing the wrong person. Glad I never wanted to enter law 🤣and sorry!

Bingbangbongbash · 24/09/2023 21:08

derxa · 24/09/2023 20:50

Except for the fact that I have had consultants and other HCPs agreeing with me.

And you might be suspicious of the speed, but that’s because you fundamentally don’t understand the science behind the vaccine or tge way science research is done.
The nurse who was teaching me how to self inject my drugs told me that she refused to take the vaccine at all for the very reason that was suspicious at the speed of the roll out. You're not sorry about my predicament at all and serious side affects are not rare. It would have kinder not to respond to my post

I’m not saying you don’t have a side effect from the vaccine, I’m saying that they are extremely rare. This is backed up by the reported data on side effects - around 3 per 1000, the vast majority of which are mild - things like vaccine site inflammation.

The nurse may well have been similarly suspicious about the roll out speed - being a nurse doesn't mean she has any understanding of drug development.

It’s been discussed to death and I’ve got nothing more to add to the detailed explanations of why the speed of rollout was not in any way suspicious.

I’m sorry that you think I’m not ‘being kind’ but if you didn’t want me to respond, maybe don’t tag me in your post.

Ukrainebaby23 · 24/09/2023 21:13

Omg I've barely understood Instagram, I've no idea who Russell might be and wtf is Rumble ?

Landed on an alien planet overnight methinks.

newnamethanks · 24/09/2023 21:16

@Wills, you mean Craig Charles, actor and poet not Craig David, blameless pop singer.

Its5656 · 24/09/2023 21:16

threatmatrix · 24/09/2023 21:04

I’m glad you used the word allegation. Why hadn’t he been arrested. The mother put her in the taxi and took 15 years to complain. Reputable family eh.

This is such a ridiculous argument.
The girl was 16 so therefore legal, what was her mum supposed to bar lock her in?
It's the same argument that people use with Micheal Jackson..
"But The parents let it happen"
You may think you would do a better job at protecting your child from a sexual predator.. That doesn't change the fact that the victim is being abused.
People who rape or abuse children/teens probably do seek out young people who's parents have a lack approach in safeguarding. Because they are predators. Stop victim blaming.

vlo · 24/09/2023 21:24

Wills · 24/09/2023 21:08

Sorry, profoundly dyslexic as in I mean seriously - diagnosed etc - not just someone who can't spell and wants to claim dyslexia! Bloody get names wrong all the time. yet have an innate super power that enables me to remember the kid's names, just not the parent's. But am serious! For years I thought his name was Daniel Craig. I'm seriously glad you spotted my error and I cringe about getting it wrong yet again, but I feel that regardless of names my thread still stands. Just that I may be accusing the wrong person. Glad I never wanted to enter law 🤣and sorry!

It didn’t ruin CC’s career by any means.

He was later on Coronation St and now works for the BBC with a regular radio slot. He also gigs and is a frequent fixture at festivals.

threatmatrix · 24/09/2023 21:34

I have done a better job, a much better job.

threatmatrix · 24/09/2023 21:37

Also I’m not victim blaming. Someone like Russel Brand who openly bragged about shaggin anything and everything. Yet the women still went off with him. Also I’ll reiterate once and once only, I can’t stand him but I do NOT. Believe in trial by media.

threatmatrix · 24/09/2023 21:38

It’s a comment, does it matter??? Goodness me you don’t like someone having a different opinion do you.

Its5656 · 24/09/2023 21:38

threatmatrix · 24/09/2023 21:34

I have done a better job, a much better job.

Good.
It doesn't change the fact that a sixteen year old girl was orally raped by a 31 year old man.

Its5656 · 24/09/2023 21:40

threatmatrix · 24/09/2023 21:37

Also I’m not victim blaming. Someone like Russel Brand who openly bragged about shaggin anything and everything. Yet the women still went off with him. Also I’ll reiterate once and once only, I can’t stand him but I do NOT. Believe in trial by media.

Every line that you've written here is victim blaming.

Swiffly · 24/09/2023 21:40

Well said, thank you.

Wills · 24/09/2023 21:42

Yes but my point was simply that he took far longer to get back on track! BUT whilst i got his name wrong 😭, my point remains the same. There are, sometimes valid miscarriages of justice by the press who feel they have impunity to announce who is right/wrong and believe they can hang someone without a court ruling! That is the price we pay for freedom of speech!

BUT nonetheless i still feel thats ok to reveal the accused and would once again refer to Jimmy Saville.

but am so sorry for getting his name wrong😳🤦‍♀️

vlo · 24/09/2023 21:47

threatmatrix · 24/09/2023 21:37

Also I’m not victim blaming. Someone like Russel Brand who openly bragged about shaggin anything and everything. Yet the women still went off with him. Also I’ll reiterate once and once only, I can’t stand him but I do NOT. Believe in trial by media.

Someone like Russel Brand who openly bragged about shaggin anything and everything. Yet the women still went off with him.

Sorry, what’s your point? No one’s got a problem with consensual sex (do you?)

The issue isn’t consensual sex, it’s the alleged rape and sexual assault.

Solonge · 24/09/2023 22:15

Its relevant how much social media is discussing this case because it will affect his chance of a fair trial, if that happens then he could be guilty and not be convicted. There is a good reason why these cases shouldnt be discussed before a trial occurs.

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/09/2023 22:39

SM didn't effect Kevin Spacey's chance of a fair trial. No reason it should effect Russell Brand's.

mayorofcasterbridge · 24/09/2023 23:48

threatmatrix · 24/09/2023 21:04

I’m glad you used the word allegation. Why hadn’t he been arrested. The mother put her in the taxi and took 15 years to complain. Reputable family eh.

Victim blaming at its finest...

likethislikethat · 24/09/2023 23:56

Wimmin he didn't want will call him every word under the sun but secretly they wish they were the type he wanted. Same with other guys like him.

Guys think he is a weirdo who has cash, fame and popularity to nail any girl he meets and sure, boundaries might have been crossed.

However, whilst I think he's likely guilty of most of what he is accused of, I bet 95% of wimmin who want him would go off with him even if they were told by their best friend that he just raped them yesterday.

It's denial, followed by "how much can I make from this" when reality sets in.

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