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Russel has spoken

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Whyismyfacealwaysdry · 22/09/2023 22:31

On Instagram, has anyone seen? What are your thoughts?

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IClaudine · 24/09/2023 11:55

Can you tell me the names of the respected journalists and how you deem them respected?? How is this bar set ?

Well on the C4 side, Louisa Compton, BAFTA award winner 2017.

Tiredofthiss · 24/09/2023 11:57

I think that him being shutdown and MPs writing to get him removed online is really bizarre but I put it down to more of a few people trying to get their name out their rather than some big conspiracy theory.

I think he did it or at least other situations similar. You look back at how he was and sure maybe some of it was a character he put on for his comedy acts but he literally had to move around so much due to his poor actions towards women and having shows not allow women on sets to work with him due to how he acted is enough. So many things he has done that there is proof of that show just how narcissistic he was and an absolute predator towards women.

I also think it's a bit of a coincidence he started his conspiracy theory channel at the beginning of the investigations. Like he knew it may come out in the future so he he's like look at me now I wouldn't do that I am vegan and do yoga haha he's pretty much become a cult leader and only covers issues in America to gain a larger audience then any issues over here. It's so transparent.

He's incredibly intelligent I think and has planned a lot of this out. He ended up on YouTube because he literally been kicked out of radio and TV and film.

IClaudine · 24/09/2023 12:06

IClaudine · 24/09/2023 11:55

Can you tell me the names of the respected journalists and how you deem them respected?? How is this bar set ?

Well on the C4 side, Louisa Compton, BAFTA award winner 2017.

Just to add, the Bafta Compton won jointly with Derbyshire was for a programme about abuse in football, so she has experience of this type of reporting.

www.bafta.org/television/news-0

Whereforartthoudave · 24/09/2023 12:09

Wouldn’t give him the time of day.
Is he still referring to rape as ‘baroque’?
rapey twat.

Whereforartthoudave · 24/09/2023 12:16

‘He's incredibly intelligent I think and has planned a lot of this out. ‘

See that’s the problem. People
mistaking his use of flowery 17th century language and Shakespeare insults ( which he’s nicked from mugs) as some kind of intelligence.
Sitting down with a big dictionary of olde English and coming up with witty sounding phrases that use obscure, out of use words isn’t a sign of intellect- it’s the sign of a performer prepping a routine.
Language is an organic, ever changing thing and anyone genuinely trying to make people understand them, or connect with them uses modern words and phrases.
Brand isn’t trying to be genuine or connect, he’s trying to intimidate, belittle, seem ‘cleverer’ than everyone else.
Something that people with limited intellect and deep insecurities, but a ‘profile’ often do.

SatsumaNightmare · 24/09/2023 12:29

It’s bizarre how bullying is allowed on this thread. Twelly was deeply respectful but she was harassed for wishing to allow the justice system to do what they need to do. However flawed a system it is, it underpins society and is deeply important. Perhaps the women doing the bullying in this thread would make better use of their moral high ground by trying to improve the legal system than harassing people they don’t agree with.

QueenMegan · 24/09/2023 12:31

He's still saying it's one big conspiracy. Poor Russell with his his out of control ego. So the women all work for the Government. Not the one I saw him humiliate.
He's a disgusting human his poor wife and daughters.

tiggergoesbounce · 24/09/2023 12:33

SatsumaNightmare · 24/09/2023 12:29

It’s bizarre how bullying is allowed on this thread. Twelly was deeply respectful but she was harassed for wishing to allow the justice system to do what they need to do. However flawed a system it is, it underpins society and is deeply important. Perhaps the women doing the bullying in this thread would make better use of their moral high ground by trying to improve the legal system than harassing people they don’t agree with.

StarStarStar

Efacsen · 24/09/2023 12:37

tiggergoesbounce · 24/09/2023 12:33

StarStarStar

Have you reported the 'bullying' and 'harassment' to MNHQ?

You really should if you are so concerned'

vlo · 24/09/2023 12:43

Whereforartthoudave · 24/09/2023 12:16

‘He's incredibly intelligent I think and has planned a lot of this out. ‘

See that’s the problem. People
mistaking his use of flowery 17th century language and Shakespeare insults ( which he’s nicked from mugs) as some kind of intelligence.
Sitting down with a big dictionary of olde English and coming up with witty sounding phrases that use obscure, out of use words isn’t a sign of intellect- it’s the sign of a performer prepping a routine.
Language is an organic, ever changing thing and anyone genuinely trying to make people understand them, or connect with them uses modern words and phrases.
Brand isn’t trying to be genuine or connect, he’s trying to intimidate, belittle, seem ‘cleverer’ than everyone else.
Something that people with limited intellect and deep insecurities, but a ‘profile’ often do.

Meh, the ‘baroque’ language might make him a pretentious twat and all the rest, but I think it’s daft to say he’s unintelligent.

I even saw someone upthread slag him off for being inarticulate, and another call him a ‘failed comedian’, which just seems daft. There’s plenty of things to criticise him for, don’t understand the rush to claim he’s an ugly thicko who can barely string two words together or to pretend he hasn’t been very successful, despite all of the alleged behaviour that’s coming out now. Just seems more useful to appraise stuff accurately.

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/09/2023 13:01

twelly · 24/09/2023 10:18

@BlurredEdges
No! but I do work in profession where you have to be very careful about what you say, and how you use non-verified information.

Are you in the print / broadcast media too?

SatsumaNightmare · 24/09/2023 13:01

Efacsen · 24/09/2023 12:37

Have you reported the 'bullying' and 'harassment' to MNHQ?

You really should if you are so concerned'

Yep.

DirectionToPerfection · 24/09/2023 13:29

It's not bullying to challenge someone's views.

If someone is going to keep waffling on about how we have to presume Brand innocent, despite all the evidence of his disgusting behaviour, then that's going to be challenged.

These posters are essentially saying that all of these women are lying, and have somehow conned professional journalists into putting their own careers on the line. That's just not credible.

Isittimeformynapyet · 24/09/2023 13:37

Princessandthepea0 · 23/09/2023 16:31

To all the so called women who’ve never been through the justice system sit back down. It’s a long, drawn out process highly weighted to the perp. I went through it and was successful - this is rare.

"so called women"?

Can you explain why you're doubting their gender?

Jumpingthruhoops · 24/09/2023 13:45

Janieforever · 24/09/2023 03:02

There are now 8 women who have come forward. And potentially more. The least you can do is keep up if you wish to engage. And isn’t 4 enough? Because one woman saying she was raped/abused/assaulted is one too many for me.

At the moment, they are just allegations.
He may be guilty. If that turns out to be true they should absolutely throw the book at him.

However, since this does also appear to be a co-ordinated attack on RB for speaking out about the establishment, I would just be interested to know much much these women have been 'leant' on...

bombastix · 24/09/2023 13:52

No I've checked. You need 30 feminist women to equal the opinion of one pro Brand woman, and the rate of exchange is currently 16 and half alleged complaints raised immediately in the 30 seconds after any alleged incident to the police to be credible.

Jumpingthruhoops · 24/09/2023 14:06

SatsumaNightmare · 24/09/2023 12:29

It’s bizarre how bullying is allowed on this thread. Twelly was deeply respectful but she was harassed for wishing to allow the justice system to do what they need to do. However flawed a system it is, it underpins society and is deeply important. Perhaps the women doing the bullying in this thread would make better use of their moral high ground by trying to improve the legal system than harassing people they don’t agree with.

Totally this!

Unfortunately, it's what happens when people let their emotions get in the way of facts. The facts are that this is most certainly a hatchet job to get RB cancelled for sharing content with the masses that Big Tech, Big Pharma etc would rather they didn't know about.

The allegations for me are then a separate issue. Is he guilty of what he's being accused of? We don't know. But that IS for a court of law to decide, not the court of public opinion. I question the sanity of anyone who thinks otherwise.

SatsumaNightmare · 24/09/2023 14:16

DirectionToPerfection · 24/09/2023 13:29

It's not bullying to challenge someone's views.

If someone is going to keep waffling on about how we have to presume Brand innocent, despite all the evidence of his disgusting behaviour, then that's going to be challenged.

These posters are essentially saying that all of these women are lying, and have somehow conned professional journalists into putting their own careers on the line. That's just not credible.

Challenging the views wasn’t the issue. Repeatedly pestering the person to answer exactly how the poster required is.

BlurredEdges · 24/09/2023 14:42

SatsumaNightmare · 24/09/2023 12:29

It’s bizarre how bullying is allowed on this thread. Twelly was deeply respectful but she was harassed for wishing to allow the justice system to do what they need to do. However flawed a system it is, it underpins society and is deeply important. Perhaps the women doing the bullying in this thread would make better use of their moral high ground by trying to improve the legal system than harassing people they don’t agree with.

While previous reports have found similar problems, ours is different. We looked at the process from start to end, directly following the victim’s experience. The results are unacceptable. The number of cases which result in a charge and proceed to court represents only a small proportion of the total cases reported to the police. Victims should not have to wait years for a court date, experience multiple adjournments, and then report, as we have heard, that the process is worse than the offence.

“We have made a series of urgent recommendations that, if acted on, have the power to transform victims’ experiences. But we cannot continue to make the same recommendations – and that is why we are calling for widespread reform of the entire criminal justice system, supported by long-term funding.”

Criminal justice system continues to fail rape victims
The criminal justice system (CJS) is failing victims of rape, and widespread reform is needed to build trust and secure justice, a new report has found.

https://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/cjji/media/press-releases/2022/02/criminal-justice-system-continues-to-fail-rape-victims/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CRape%20victims%20are%20continually%20and,prosecutors%20which%20must%20be%20overcome

Criminal justice system continues to fail rape victims

https://www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/cjji/media/press-releases/2022/02/criminal-justice-system-continues-to-fail-rape-victims#:~:text=%E2%80%9CRape%20victims%20are%20continually%20and,prosecutors%20which%20must%20be%20overcome.

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/09/2023 15:00

Russell Brand has spent the past few years grooming people on the internet because he knew this day was coming.

Now they are defending him as they have been groomed to do. Most will cop on as this plays out.

Jumpingthruhoops · 24/09/2023 15:06

CountZacular · 24/09/2023 09:14

@Jumpingthruhoops Then I guess that just makes you a dangerous misogynist if you can’t blame it on ignorance.

Edited

Doesn't make me anything. But you are of course entitled to your opinion.

Jumpingthruhoops · 24/09/2023 15:15

Walkaround · 24/09/2023 08:13

So, it’s OK to rape a few women if you are a sex addict?! I guess drug addicts are known to commit crimes to ensure they get their fix, rather than wait until they have earned enough money for another dose, so I guess that makes sense…

Don't try and twist what I've said. Sexual assault is never OK. To suggest someone would think so is frankly moronic.

I am merely highlighting that, as a sex addict, Russell Brand would have slept with hundreds of women. Yet a FOUR-YEAR investigation, where Dispatches literally could have unearthed ALL of those women... turned out just four. And even then they were represented by actors!

RB is a VERY different person to who he was all those years ago. I just question why they've chosen to expose him now...

ChillysWaterBottle · 24/09/2023 15:17

Jumpingthruhoops · 24/09/2023 13:45

At the moment, they are just allegations.
He may be guilty. If that turns out to be true they should absolutely throw the book at him.

However, since this does also appear to be a co-ordinated attack on RB for speaking out about the establishment, I would just be interested to know much much these women have been 'leant' on...

?

Brand IS the establishment. He's an extremely wealthy man who made his name working in mainstream media and then Hollywood. He's still neck deep in it all - he did voicework for the Minions film last year lol. He has wealthy powerful people like Elon Musk backing him. He's about as establishment as you can get and his inane, generic, pseudo-counter culture rambling on YouTube doesn't change that.

greenhydrangea · 24/09/2023 15:18

RB is a VERY different person to who he was all those years ago. I just question why they've chosen to expose him now...

Not according to those who work with him or those on the comedy circuit.

People have been trying to expose him for years, but his lawyers have shut them down.

Jumpingthruhoops · 24/09/2023 15:20

Efacsen · 24/09/2023 09:47

Brand was given a 'right to reply' 8 days before the Despaches programme was broadcast when his lawyers were contacted for a response - as is the normal legal route well before it was being trailled on SM

He did not use that opportunity to provide counter-evidence or [as far as is known] did not use the legal system to try and prevent the programme from being broadcsst

Instead he used social media to protest his innocence

Why would he not use our wonderful legal system to re-but the allegations and insist on his innocent until proved guilty within the correct sphere. after all he's a very wealthy man with access to the best lawyers and legal advice and no stranger to litigation?

Maybe because he doesn't have to prove anything to anyone outside of a court of law? Obviously.

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