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Russel has spoken

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Whyismyfacealwaysdry · 22/09/2023 22:31

On Instagram, has anyone seen? What are your thoughts?

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Nagado · 23/09/2023 11:24

Josell12345 · 23/09/2023 09:43

To the muppet who said he was a gaslighting rapist- what a ridiculous comment . Hes neither been charged or found guilty.

For me its the timing. Why wasnt this brought out at the time. Just hold onto it all until hes hovering right over the target, calling out msm/globalists/usa politics/war for what it is and suddenly its time to silence him!
See this for what it is.

Is your skull filled with sawdust? I hope to God that no women in your circle ever need to rely on you for any kind of support as the victim of a sex crime. If you believe that a rapist could be innocent purely because the victim didn’t report it at the time, I also pray you never get called for jury duty. Did you think this about Jimmy Saville? Or Rolf Harris? Or Max Clifford? That they must all be innocent because their victims didn’t say anything to the police at the time it happened?

Do you really believe that ‘they’ are so worried about the nonsensical ramblings of a failing celebrity with a You Tube channel that ‘they’ have assembled a team of journalists, lawyers and rape victims and have commissioned a documentary ready to air at a time of their choosing? Ffs, Mrs Hinch probably has more influence and is taken more seriously than RB!

And even if that were true, and that somewhere, there was an underground boardroom filled with all the people RB likes to ‘expose’, rubbing their hands with glee because they’ve managed to bring out these allegations just when they wanted to, that doesn’t change the fact that at least one woman is publicly saying that he tried to rape her and at least one woman is publicly saying that he did rape her. That’s excluding the women who have come forward since the documentary aired and his predatory behaviour towards 16 year olds. Those women exist. Or are you conveniently forgetting that because you like him and you’re daft enough to think he’s a man of the people? HE is the one trying to distract people. ‘Hey, look over here everyone; I’m the victim of a plot to stop me talking. No, ignore those rape victims over there, come over here and listen to all the big words I know. This is all a plot to destroy me by those rich people who hate you’. And you and your ilk are falling for it 🙄

lightpineapple · 23/09/2023 11:30

That's the thing, absolutely zero concern.

There hasn't been any denial of the allegations, and if I was erring on the side of him being framed, it would be reassuring to hear him take accountability that (at the very least) it was unwise and inappropriate to be in a relalationship with a schoolgirl when he was 31

twelly · 23/09/2023 11:31

BlurredEdges · 23/09/2023 10:48

It's not 'an' allegation, though, is it.

It's many, many women, sharing traumatic detailed testimonies with evidence. Consistent stories from a great number of women going back decades.

It is an allegation as it's unproven - the point I am making is that we need to be fair, these type of allegations could be made about private individuals. In the area I live for example there was negative reporting about a case and sustained social media posts about an individual - the case went to court and the person was found not guilty and the judge made the point that this had damaged their life. This is why we need to be fair not jump to conclusions.

Princessandthepea0 · 23/09/2023 11:41

I know someone like him. Exactly down to the blinded supporters and in your face look at me. He’s in prison now. 👏🏻

Its5656 · 23/09/2023 11:41

Do people really believe that a journalist hasn't managed to convince 5 women to lie about being raped?
Think about it.. It's a serious allegation and these women have nothing to gain.
The conspiracy theory stuff is just pure nonsense... Russell Brand doesn't know anymore about covid/aliens or 9/11 then you or I.

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 23/09/2023 11:45

Nagado · 23/09/2023 11:24

Is your skull filled with sawdust? I hope to God that no women in your circle ever need to rely on you for any kind of support as the victim of a sex crime. If you believe that a rapist could be innocent purely because the victim didn’t report it at the time, I also pray you never get called for jury duty. Did you think this about Jimmy Saville? Or Rolf Harris? Or Max Clifford? That they must all be innocent because their victims didn’t say anything to the police at the time it happened?

Do you really believe that ‘they’ are so worried about the nonsensical ramblings of a failing celebrity with a You Tube channel that ‘they’ have assembled a team of journalists, lawyers and rape victims and have commissioned a documentary ready to air at a time of their choosing? Ffs, Mrs Hinch probably has more influence and is taken more seriously than RB!

And even if that were true, and that somewhere, there was an underground boardroom filled with all the people RB likes to ‘expose’, rubbing their hands with glee because they’ve managed to bring out these allegations just when they wanted to, that doesn’t change the fact that at least one woman is publicly saying that he tried to rape her and at least one woman is publicly saying that he did rape her. That’s excluding the women who have come forward since the documentary aired and his predatory behaviour towards 16 year olds. Those women exist. Or are you conveniently forgetting that because you like him and you’re daft enough to think he’s a man of the people? HE is the one trying to distract people. ‘Hey, look over here everyone; I’m the victim of a plot to stop me talking. No, ignore those rape victims over there, come over here and listen to all the big words I know. This is all a plot to destroy me by those rich people who hate you’. And you and your ilk are falling for it 🙄

Excellent post. @Nagado.

Janieforever · 23/09/2023 11:47

Josell12345 · 23/09/2023 09:43

To the muppet who said he was a gaslighting rapist- what a ridiculous comment . Hes neither been charged or found guilty.

For me its the timing. Why wasnt this brought out at the time. Just hold onto it all until hes hovering right over the target, calling out msm/globalists/usa politics/war for what it is and suddenly its time to silence him!
See this for what it is.

Yeah because the fact he’s been some you tube sensation for conspiracy theorists for years means it can’t be true

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 23/09/2023 11:54

benoticanarsed · 23/09/2023 09:05

Sorry i have two more questions? I'm autistic. These are genuine I'm not trying to be funny.

What's happened recently for the women to come forward now?

Are the police involved?

I think there were rumours swirling around and so Channel 4 decided to make a programme. They asked around and found women who were prepared to talk, mist of them on condition of anonymity. They didn't 'come forward'. They obviously each had their own reasons for not reporting at the time ( maybe fear of not being believed, of losing their job, of being made a spectacle, told it was their own fault, that this powerful man would sue them, etc etc. ). So Channel 4 found them and took three years to make the programme and back up their allegations.
Your second question - yes. It's now a police matter because two more women have reported allegations against him.

Furryrug · 23/09/2023 11:57

So for those saying it was so long ago and why didn't the women report it at the time. Do you think it shouldn't be investigated now? Is there a time limit on when crimes are just forgotten about?

BlurredEdges · 23/09/2023 12:01

twelly · 23/09/2023 11:31

It is an allegation as it's unproven - the point I am making is that we need to be fair, these type of allegations could be made about private individuals. In the area I live for example there was negative reporting about a case and sustained social media posts about an individual - the case went to court and the person was found not guilty and the judge made the point that this had damaged their life. This is why we need to be fair not jump to conclusions.

I'm saying it's not A SINGLE allegation. It's many, many, many accounts from many many different women and girls.

Do you honestly think they are all lying?

Did you know that a man is 400 times more likely to be raped in the UK than to be falsely accused of rape?

Did you know that only 2 % of rape cases reported to the police get a conviction?

Why are you more concerned about the very rare instances of false accusations than the far higher number of rapists who get away with it and continue to rape?

Why do you think the word of 1 man is worth more than 20 women?

GCAcademic · 23/09/2023 12:04

Maatandosiris · 23/09/2023 10:13

No, the justice system needs to be improved, especially around sex crimes but that does not require or excuse vigilante mentality.

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You have a strange sense of what constitutes vigilante mentality. Three years of investigative journalism that could end a journalist’s career if the reporting weren’t watertight is not, to my mind, vigilantism.

henlee · 23/09/2023 12:07

GCAcademic · 23/09/2023 12:04

You have a strange sense of what constitutes vigilante mentality. Three years of investigative journalism that could end a journalist’s career if the reporting weren’t watertight is not, to my mind, vigilantism.

Freedom of speech also goes both ways

He and his supporters promote freedom of speech when it comes to him making allegations and conspiracy theory videos, but this apparently does not apply to journalists who want to run an investigative piece on something they believe has been covered up

OhhhhhhhhBiscuits · 23/09/2023 12:09

This about sums up his supporters.

Russel has spoken
pickyourown · 23/09/2023 12:09

LaffTaff · 23/09/2023 08:51

I'm in the reserve judgement camp; I think, hope, most people (who aren't on online chat platforms - ie the majority of the populace) are probably in that camp.
I used (in an earlier thread) the Alex Salmond case as an example of a man who'd been accused by multiple women and (upon being able to provide a defence, have the claims scrutinised by a jury, with a judge overseeing proceedings) was found not guilty on all charges. Salmond also claimed an establishment stitch up. I'm not accusing the women in the RB case of lying, what I am doing is giving a relevant example of why judgement should be (and IS, in law) reserved.

RB has used his promiscuous reputation as material for his stand up. Most comedians (particularly those in the black comedy/scandal genre) reference and ridicule distasteful things in their act; so his act can't (in any serious way) be considered 'proof' of anything.

There is no difference in the psyche of those siding with RB and those siding with his accusers; both positions are based on presumption and bias. The only reasonable position is the undecided one.

How do you explain the text message?
What have they to gain by coming out anonymously? Are you claiming they might all be made up people hired by ‘the media’?

BlurredEdges · 23/09/2023 12:10

GCAcademic · 23/09/2023 12:04

You have a strange sense of what constitutes vigilante mentality. Three years of investigative journalism that could end a journalist’s career if the reporting weren’t watertight is not, to my mind, vigilantism.

Yes, exactly. People bleat on about 'the Murdoch media', ignoring the fact that a) dispatches has nothing to do with Murdoch and b) these are respected, serious journalists whose entire lives and careers would be destroyed if they were part of some ridiculous conspiracy to defame an innocent man.

It is so very obviously all true.

icallitasplodge · 23/09/2023 12:11

He needs money for all his court cases. It was a begging video.

Rumble are the only ones paying him so watch him there etc

also scrutiny is something he loves…. except when he is the topic.

icallitasplodge · 23/09/2023 12:13

Also it’s not promiscuity. It’s a sex addiction. He was lacking control of his actions in many situations. He has now reframed his sex addiction and his inability to control himself, as promiscuity to infer that the women he was involved with had a choice.

LaffTaff · 23/09/2023 12:16

pickyourown · 23/09/2023 12:09

How do you explain the text message?
What have they to gain by coming out anonymously? Are you claiming they might all be made up people hired by ‘the media’?

I'm not claiming anything. That was essentially my point.

Janieforever · 23/09/2023 12:18

icallitasplodge · 23/09/2023 12:11

He needs money for all his court cases. It was a begging video.

Rumble are the only ones paying him so watch him there etc

also scrutiny is something he loves…. except when he is the topic.

It was a begging video, but he’s worth somewhere between 10 and 40 million and was earning a million a year from his you tube platform alone. He can well afford his court cases. Simply he isn’t going to play to the conspiracy theorists for free. He wants their money or he won’t do it. Hence why given the opp to do it for free he’s declined and withdrawn.

and six addiction doesn’t mean he’s not in control of his actions.

icallitasplodge · 23/09/2023 12:20

An addict is ruled by their addiction.

obviously that doesn’t suit his narrative now. Now he’s promiscuous.

icallitasplodge · 23/09/2023 12:21

addiction doesn’t mean he’s not in control of his actions

This is the same as saying an alcoholic just likes a few drinks.

vlo · 23/09/2023 12:21

icallitasplodge · 23/09/2023 12:13

Also it’s not promiscuity. It’s a sex addiction. He was lacking control of his actions in many situations. He has now reframed his sex addiction and his inability to control himself, as promiscuity to infer that the women he was involved with had a choice.

Well it can be both surely; there’s inevitably going to be a big overlap between sex addiction and promiscuity…

icallitasplodge · 23/09/2023 12:23

In the same way there is a cross over between liver disease and alcoholism.

it’s the lack of control which he is minimising. Because that doesn’t look good in a rape case….

Janieforever · 23/09/2023 12:26

I really don’t like this he lacked control. It absolves him of responsibility. Like he had an Illness and it wasn’t his fault. Right now nothing is evidenced the man lacked control other than one poster saying it.

icallitasplodge · 23/09/2023 12:28

It doesn’t. in my kind he was a rapist and his drug of choice was vulnerable women. He is still responsible. And he knows the public will think that.

so he is merely promiscuous instead. Insinuating it was all fun and games and consensual when in reality he was consuming these women to feed an addiction. He is still guilty as there is a victim. The alcoholic addition hurts only

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