Russel has spoken

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On Instagram, has anyone seen? What are your thoughts?

He's self employed and makes his money by uploading a conspiracy theory video onto youtube every once in a while.

The advertisers who provide him with revenue don't have any kind of obligation to carry on paying him, that's ridiculous. How would it even work? All his social media accounts are monetised and he pulls in money from all sorts of companies who put ads on them.

It isn't ethical for him to profit from the allegations.

You only have to watch a few minutes if his so called comedy to see what a misogynist he is, that’s what is worrying that so many people, including women who blindly believe he is innocent despite the things he has openly talked about.

There might not have been anything specifically that caused women to come forward now. It's just that it's often difficult for sexual abuse victims to report immediately after the abuse happens. For one thing it can be immensely disempowering and make you feel like you don't have the right to say anything or complain. For another it can be very traumatic to relive it, many people are just glad that it is over. In some cases victims may not realise that what they went through was classed as rape/sexual abuse until much later when the realisation might come through therapy, thinking about their past, something which made them see it differently etc.

Some people are making comments insinuating that there's something significant about the fact people have come forward with allegations now, because they believe Russell's persona that he's built up over the last few years and the idea that he's exposing super secret government conspiracies.

For me, I don't think there's much weight in that theory. He has a YouTube channel where he claims to point out issues with "mainstream thinking" but it's not very joined up or consistent, he flits about from one topic to the next basically based on what's trending and it all seems very view based. To his viewers he puts across that he's this big threat but I don't think any of the "elites" that he refers to care or know really who he is. It's all just an illusion to make people think they are in some secret club and feel special.

Personally I think it's much more likely that the victims are just older now and more able to recognise that what they went through was abusive.

Also I do have sympathy for his wife and I think most people do.
I don't think the media have turned on him I think his victims have used the media to be heard and this has resulted in him losing advertising deals with Yotube.
He can of course sue for loss of earnings or he get a regular job like anyone else.. Or retire.. He's made millions, and sit back and pray the police don't come knocking. I'd be shitting myself if I were him.
My own rapist has a wife and two children.. I like to think I did them a favour by speaking out but have no idea what they think of me.. it's not my problem and I refuse to feel bad about that.

No, the justice system needs to be improved, especially around sex crimes but that does not require or excuse vigilante mentality.

You mean like most popular journalists then?

I’m happy for the courts to decide if he’s rapist although I note his lawyers haven’t issued libel proceedings.

His comedy though, is massively misogynist and deeply unpleasant. I’m really glad it has been removed from streaming sites…

You can tell the difference between “blinding believing” someone and wanting actual justice through the justice system though can’t you????

Might need to remove quite a few politicians (on all sides and all sexes) then as well

I really want to see the death of ridiculous repeated mantras. There is NO trial by media. It has been reported by investigative journalists - journalists who wouldn’t go live with their accusations unless they felt comfortable that would stand to scrutiny if he were to sue them. He is not incarcerated. He is still allowed platforms to ramble on (just not all with monetise him). He clearly still has a large, deluded following. There is no trial.

We know conviction rates are awful. We know it’s even worse trying to report something historic. We know that, again and again, women have not been believed when a man is influential in any way. Despite that, the absolutely desperation to defend this gaslighting idiot is sickening.

Journalists can print what they want but they risk defamation law - which includes very hefty fines, legal fees and a risk to their career. There was not done lightly.

And I do welcome this. The police aren’t know for believing and protecting women. The CPS has absolutely shocking conviction rates. But the victims have a right to feel vindicated, other victims have a right to know they are not alone and future women have a right to know they could be potential victims. I believe he is a gaslighting rapist (like someone said above) and nobody gets to police my believes with misused mantras like ‘innocent until proven guilty’.

But ultimately that’s MY opinion. You don’t have to have the same as it’s not a trial by media.

A couple of us already did say this upthread.

‘Supporting’ him on rumble equals financially.

He’s free to post on Youtube but it currently won’t generate an income for him.

He doesn’t need the money.

Feel like these glib comments are unhelpful in a debate about this.

Which "popular journalists" are you referring to?

I maintain the point that being able to profit from conspiracy theories is incredibly problematic, as it incentivises people to push out more and more controversial content and leads to genuine consequences like risk to life (have posted before about some of the scientists who experience this).

If a journalist works for a regulated media outlet, there are generally restrictions on what can be reported and how much evidence is required. This is why places like Talk TV keep getting slapped on the wrist - they allow their journalists to report any old nonsense.

The BBC has been happy to play parts of his latest video several times during its morning news. RB is wearing his Messiah dress and spouting about being cancelled. Well, I wish he was, I dont want to see or hear him on my TV. Those that do, refer to BBC who will tell you where to find him.

It's the same rubbish. Rewarded for outrage. Once it was sex. Now its mysterious elites. People are just so credulous about him: to me it's transparent it's the same mode of manipulation.

Worked once. Do it again in a different area: make money.

Oh my goodness, there are politicians 'of all sexes' performing routines about how good it is to choke a woman with your penis til her mascara runs?

Yes, please take them off streaming sites too.

Look at what happened to Cliff Richard. That was media driven. We have a huge issue with the media in this country being biased and unfair.

I personally don’t find ‘he’s a rapist, he’s like Charles Manson’ comments to be helpful.

Fair point about the use of the word "trial" however, there is a fine line between how any person/event is reported - a non-celebrity could have their life ruined through the way issues are reported in the press. There have been cases where this is happened and where the individual has taken action through the courts. Ignoring this specific current case details as we don't know the truth we need to look at the ways that people are treated when an allegation is made - that is fair.

How many women need to speak out to be believed?

His ex girlfriend wrote a fucking book about it ffs.

Sickening rape apologists on here. I fear for the women in your lives.

It's not 'an' allegation, though, is it.

It's many, many women, sharing traumatic detailed testimonies with evidence. Consistent stories from a great number of women going back decades.

But that's a seperate point - you were previously talking about "popular journalists" but they're not saying "he's a rapist, he's like Charles Manson". Obviously if that was currently being reported in the media that wouldn't be fair nor appropriate.

You can't control people's reactions and all these posts on social media and forums are a real problem for everything, not just in this case.

If a journalist works for a regulated media outlet, there are generally restrictions on what can be reported and how much evidence is required. This is why places like Talk TV keep getting slapped on the wrist - they allow their journalists to report any old nonsense

But alot of MSM also acknowledge that the money they earn off the lie, far outweighs any pay out that will be slapped on them (including their tiny apology they need to print for destroying lives) its worth the fine.

I wasn’t saying they were the same thing. It was more a comment on how it’s interesting that it isn’t being called out as ‘not helpful.’

I am also not trying to control people’s reactions. What a weird thing to say. Just like you, I am simply replying to things I don’t agree with.

So the woman who was raped went to a rape crisis centre and had the evidence frozen in case in the future Brand challenged the msm/globalists/usa politics/a future war?

Seems realistic.

You quite clearly don’t have a clue whether RB is ‘cooperating’ with the police or even if the police have been in contact atall.
Don’t make things up.

Eh? I'm not saying that you were. I was just pointing that people's reactions to news can't be controlled, and yes this is a real problem in the age of social media and the internet.