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"Cheeky" swimsuits. Just why?

552 replies

disappearingfish · 21/09/2023 17:22

I get it for posing on the beach, but why do swimwear makers cut the bums off suits otherwise aimed at the "proper swimming" market. I do not want to see bare arses at 0630 under the bad lighting of my local council swimming.

This, for example. Who buys this? www.arenasport.com/en_uk/006660-women-s-swimsuit-arena-mesh-panels-power-back.html

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MsPloddingBottom · 25/09/2023 07:16

Mothership4two · 25/09/2023 01:52

Here is a depressing selection of comments aimed at women by mainly other women (I assume) on this thread📧

not very strong minded
care about looking good for males
low standards
loved the male attention (13-14 yos)
fat hairy arse waddling
flabby arses
look hilarious none…. are serious swimmers
look like idiots
exhibitionist
unedifying
choosing to flaunt their body
aim for zero modesty, show men everything you've got
some women are easily led
an exhibitionist forcing your fetish on other people
showing their private parts
women who fall for this type of sexualised fashion
completely ridiculous and deeply unattractive
the kinds of women in real life who troll around with their buttocks hanging out
it's indecent
behaving and dressing like slappers
a gradual erosion of decency.
they do it to show off their bums,
fatty backside
very large arse… revolting… vile
very porny

Plus many sneery comments about eye rolling/laughing behind backs of women who presumably are body positive enough to wear a thong swimsuit.

Not to mention silly comments (for dramatic effect I assume) about being able to see a woman's snatch/cervix/tonsils - impossible unless they are doing a very weird swimming stroke! And I take with a huge pinch of salt that OP was actually able to see another woman's pubic hairs at her local swimming pool. Sorry OP just don't believe it.

Some of these comments are completely OTT IMO and sad to see here on the Mumsnet forum.

Hello! I have no issue with swimsuit. I think of myself as body positive and think a lot of posters could do with seeing some hair and less than perfect bums.

Another poster said a woman exposed her bum cheeks and others clearly saw. That is exhibitionist and involving other people in something they don't expect to see probably to see at a bus stop. Nobody wants to see that, unless you're out at night then it's appropriate for the occasion. We don't have to blindly agree with everything women do.

It's a bit pathetic when people lack any critical thinking. It goes down the other end of the scale from misogyny to blind support on here from some, including to women who kill. No nuance from people like you. That's what's depressing.

electriclight · 25/09/2023 07:30

I saw three teenage girls on Saturday, in shorts so short I could see the entire bottom half of their arse cheeks. They all looked ridiculous and some people were laughing at them. So I can only assume that some people really like the look of their arse cheeks and think everyone else will enjoy them too.

disappearingfish · 25/09/2023 08:03

indie12345 · 24/09/2023 23:39

Do some squats so you can wear one too instead of being bitter on the Internet

Best reply yet. I can squat 1.5 times my body weight so I'm all good thanks.

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disappearingfish · 25/09/2023 08:08

I haven't said "flaunt". I haven't bodyshamed women, on this thread or irl. I'm not bitter or jealous or weirdly obsessed with what other women wear.

I've expressed, in fairly mild terms, my dislike of cheeky swimsuits in a particular setting and omg some of the frothing from women defending the right to public arse baring is mad. Patriarchy really has got its claws deep into some of you.

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Fallingthroughclouds · 25/09/2023 08:10

electriclight · 25/09/2023 07:30

I saw three teenage girls on Saturday, in shorts so short I could see the entire bottom half of their arse cheeks. They all looked ridiculous and some people were laughing at them. So I can only assume that some people really like the look of their arse cheeks and think everyone else will enjoy them too.

Wow really, that were laughing at teenagers how cruel and childish. A lot of people don't like the look of obesity, cellulite, red hair etc should we all gang together and laugh at them too.

Fallingthroughclouds · 25/09/2023 08:12

MsPloddingBottom · 25/09/2023 07:16

Hello! I have no issue with swimsuit. I think of myself as body positive and think a lot of posters could do with seeing some hair and less than perfect bums.

Another poster said a woman exposed her bum cheeks and others clearly saw. That is exhibitionist and involving other people in something they don't expect to see probably to see at a bus stop. Nobody wants to see that, unless you're out at night then it's appropriate for the occasion. We don't have to blindly agree with everything women do.

It's a bit pathetic when people lack any critical thinking. It goes down the other end of the scale from misogyny to blind support on here from some, including to women who kill. No nuance from people like you. That's what's depressing.

@Mothership4two well said @MsPloddingBottom not so well put, you seem to be belittling her, so actually proving her point.

NatashaDancing · 25/09/2023 08:22

disappearingfish · 25/09/2023 08:08

I haven't said "flaunt". I haven't bodyshamed women, on this thread or irl. I'm not bitter or jealous or weirdly obsessed with what other women wear.

I've expressed, in fairly mild terms, my dislike of cheeky swimsuits in a particular setting and omg some of the frothing from women defending the right to public arse baring is mad. Patriarchy really has got its claws deep into some of you.

The "flaunting" comments were made by posters who like this style.

"Flaunting your body" was, in their view a good thing.

MsPloddingBottom · 25/09/2023 08:25

@Fallingthroughclouds of course you'd say that, you seem to have exactly the same views🤔 interesting

lightisnotwhite · 25/09/2023 09:00

Torganer · 21/09/2023 17:34

I don’t think it looks that bad. I had a similar one in my younger days and it was very comfortable. Unless people wear loose shorts, you can see people’s bottoms due to the tight fit.

It’s not “people”. It’s women. Always women in the stupid unpractical clothes. Whose seen men in budgie smugglers with cut out bum cheeks?

lightisnotwhite · 25/09/2023 09:11

Lumpydumpy380 · 25/09/2023 07:01

Sorry I’m going to be causing up a shit storm in this thread 😂 …. But I’ve actually got several swim suits like this and I’m overweight 😂😂 I couldn’t give a shit what people think of me if I’m honest. I will be enforcing that motto into my kids too. Aslong as you’re comfortable it doesn’t matter. I’m actually going on hokiday next month and I will be taking them with me. My husband likes seeing my bare arse I couldn’t give a toss if no one else does. It’s a bum we all have them 🤷🏻‍♀️

So why are so few people going naked? Or topless?
I’m quite happy doing both, I’ve done both and shower with other women after sport.
But these swim suits are a sexualisation of women’s bodies. As well you know by the comment “my husbands likes my bare arse”. Why wear one at all. Everyone’s got genitals, who cares?

Polis · 25/09/2023 09:12

Whose seen men in budgie smugglers with cut out bum cheeks?

Me.

lightisnotwhite · 25/09/2023 09:18

@polis fair enough😁.

I think it’s more the anatomical nature of male versus womens bodies. The fact we have flaps back and front makes the design sexualised. Whereas mens bits are safely contained at the front .

ClafoutisSurprise · 25/09/2023 09:18

Fallingthroughclouds · 24/09/2023 22:33

That's nice and that's your opinion and choice. Aren't we lucky we live in a society where these women also have theirs.

Yes, we are lucky and I support the right of people to wear things I don’t like. As you say, I was voicing an opinion about my personal preferences only. No need for the condescending response.

marcusian · 25/09/2023 09:31

Have to say i dont like either the cheeky swimsuit or cheeky shorts.
I find them really tacky and tbh the person wearing them defo desperate for attention. Just like men in thongs.
Im no prude or religious fanatic, I love clothes and defend people's right of course to wear (almost) what they like but i would ask people to think about the wider feminist context:
What message does this give to children? Girls, aspire to showing as much of your body naked as possible, boys its OK to normalise looking at your best friends mum's bare arse? Its hardly helping to change attitudes is it? Imagine if the Sun's page 3 decided tomorrow to focus on bare bottoms...
Its your choice for sure, and when younger ive been on nudist beaches with consenting adults; but just because its a choice doesnt mean its the right choice...

Polis · 25/09/2023 09:33

but just because its a choice doesnt mean its the right choice...

But it is right to have a choice…

Panaa · 25/09/2023 09:36

lightisnotwhite · 25/09/2023 09:18

@polis fair enough😁.

I think it’s more the anatomical nature of male versus womens bodies. The fact we have flaps back and front makes the design sexualised. Whereas mens bits are safely contained at the front .

Oh come on. If you're talking anatomy a mans genitals are far more on show in budgie smugglers than a womans flaps are in a bikini.

Panaa · 25/09/2023 09:46

@marcusian
but i would ask people to think about the wider feminist context:
What message does this give to children? Girls, aspire to showing as much of your body naked as possible, boys its OK to normalise looking at your best friends mum's bare arse? Its hardly helping to change attitudes is it?

It's good that girls see that bodies come in all shapes and sizes and that girls see bodies that haven't been airbrushed.

Boys are always going to look at their best mates mums arse, what difference does it make what she's wearing?

HOW does women covering up do anything to change attitudes???

SurprisedWithAHorse · 25/09/2023 09:46

disappearingfish · 25/09/2023 08:08

I haven't said "flaunt". I haven't bodyshamed women, on this thread or irl. I'm not bitter or jealous or weirdly obsessed with what other women wear.

I've expressed, in fairly mild terms, my dislike of cheeky swimsuits in a particular setting and omg some of the frothing from women defending the right to public arse baring is mad. Patriarchy really has got its claws deep into some of you.

I'm afraid you don't get to go for a swim, see a swimsuit you don't like, remember it all while you swim, shower, dry, dress and go home, then go online to start a thread about it, remain on that thread talking rubbish for four days and 19 pages, and claim that other people are obsessed.

Like "projecting" and "hit a nerve", "frothing" isn't a magic word that becomes true just because you say it. I'll add that some of the posters you think are so much more calm and rational were all over a thread the other day telling someone she should get legal advice before hanging a boudoir photo of herself in her bedroom and comparing it to child abuse. I'm not making this up.

Teddleshon · 25/09/2023 09:54

Would people really be happy for their 15 year old daughter to go out for the evening with her bum cheeks on display?

Weddingpuzzle · 25/09/2023 09:56

I agree that some of this seems to be on the manufacturers but I am a bit torn about it all.

I feel the same about wedding dresses, I couldn't buy one from a bridal shop as I baulked at how revealing they were. I have body dysmorphia so it was a problem for me, I like to cover up. There are so many extremely low cut wedding gowns that go to the naval or nude panels in the gown that show so much flesh and actually made it look like my breasts were about to fall out, the eye is drawn straight to the fleshy area, whether that be the chest area, breasts, hips or arms (which I think is the point?) and in my opinion the aesthetics just looked all wrong - especially when the groom is fully covered up in a suit, weddings are usually full days and family occasions and it's meant to be about confirming a contract of your love to your significant other in front of family & friends, not showing off your sex appeal or was I missing the point? There is no argument for the fact that they are more comfortable either in the case of wedding dresses. Then I started thinking stop being ridiculous, live and let live.

I keep thinking that it is a ploy to make women look daft but I also think maybe the manufacturers are just making the dresses to demand so there must be plenty who like this look? I think a woman's body almost feels like it has to be on display and I am a little bit skeptical about the origins of where that has come from tbh. Perhaps it is internalised misogyny but it definitely isn't for me.

disappearingfish · 25/09/2023 10:01

I'm afraid you don't get to go for a swim, see a swimsuit you don't like, remember it all while you swim, shower, dry, dress and go home, then go online to start a thread about it, remain on that thread talking rubbish for four days and 19 pages, and claim that other people are obsessed.

It really doesn't take much effort or headspace to create a thread on mumsnet.

I have not claimed other people are obsessed.

Please stop making stuff up.

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Fallingthroughclouds · 25/09/2023 10:07

MsPloddingBottom · 25/09/2023 08:25

@Fallingthroughclouds of course you'd say that, you seem to have exactly the same views🤔 interesting

Not very, but glad you find it so.

Fallingthroughclouds · 25/09/2023 10:08

disappearingfish · 25/09/2023 08:08

I haven't said "flaunt". I haven't bodyshamed women, on this thread or irl. I'm not bitter or jealous or weirdly obsessed with what other women wear.

I've expressed, in fairly mild terms, my dislike of cheeky swimsuits in a particular setting and omg some of the frothing from women defending the right to public arse baring is mad. Patriarchy really has got its claws deep into some of you.

You take on patriarchy just seems silly.

MsPloddingBottom · 25/09/2023 10:09

Uh huh

Fallingthroughclouds · 25/09/2023 10:23

Fallingthroughclouds · 25/09/2023 10:08

You take on patriarchy just seems silly.

I'm more worried about the matriachy at this stage. Seems to be the one with the derogatory and controlling views.