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To think this just sums up XL Bully owners?

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Ozarkz · 19/09/2023 16:15

Look North last night. Peter Levy is interviewing a woman who owns two XL Bullys. Both cropped and docked which she says happened in another country before she got them (yeah, course it did).

Peter asks her “so why do people want these dogs in the first place, what’s the attraction for you?”

She replies “well I wanted dogs that were good with kids and famines and stuff so we got XL Bully’s cos they’re great with kids”

Wtf? If I didn’t know better I’d swear this was a spoof interview. Good with kids and families?? These dogs have been responsible for the most human deaths in dog attacks in the UK in recent years!!! Just last week an 11 year CHILD was attacked by one of these dogs … so when looking for a child friendly dog she bypasses the golden retriever etc and goes for the breed with the biggest track record of killing humans …

He then asked her if she will comply with the muzzle when the laws are changed - she said NO.

Then the cherry on the cake … he asked her “would you leave your child alone with these dogs?” And she said “yes, absolutely. I leave my two year old alone with them all the time whilst I’m busy making dinner etc”

Honestly the interview couldn’t have been any more gobsmacking.

This just sums up XL bully owners doesn’t it? Thick as pig shit with no regard to their own safety or the safety of others.

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TorqueWrench · 21/09/2023 22:49

I saw on tiktok that many owners are encouraging others to go to the doctors and lie about having mental health issues, and then declare that their xl is their therapy dog so that their dog can't be taken.

The mentality of these people.

I'm not advocating for XL Bullies but let's not pretend that a significant number of cat owners wouldn't lie to the doctor if the alternative was having their beloved pet removed and killed.

MakeAListTheySaid · 21/09/2023 23:10

I'm not advocating for XL Bullies but let's not pretend that a significant number of cat owners wouldn't lie to the doctor if the alternative was having their beloved pet removed and killed.

But they just need to abide by whatever the new laws are and their pet won't be removed or killed. They'd rather lie and create all this fake hype about everyone having it in for them. They've convinced themselves and others that the police are going to be sitting in wait for them and stealing their dogs. They're ridiculous.

BellaAndDave · 21/09/2023 23:21

I saw on tiktok that many owners are encouraging others to go to the doctors and lie about having mental health issues, and then declare that their xl is their therapy dog so that their dog can't be taken.

Banned breeds doesn’t trump the 2010 Equality Act. There is no legal status in the UK for therapy dogs nor emotional support dogs. Grasping at straws comes to mind.

missingyears · 22/09/2023 01:03

I got attacked by an English Bull Terrier one morning on my way to work. It had escaped from a garden. It was very early in the morning, 6.45am, and there was no one around.

It was terrifying. While it was happening I could see that the dog just thought it was fun/a game/ was just doing what it was bred or trained to do. I'm sure the owner would say it was just a big soppy pup, just playing.

I was seriously concerned for my own welfare. The dog had a collar on. I managed to grab hold of the collar and pin the dog to the floor. The dog was wriggling and snarling and I was screaming for help. Eventually some people appeared and helped me.

If that dog had been a bully I would be dead now. Luckily I walked away with cuts and bruises to my arms and hands. Or if I had been a small child or elderly person the outcome could have been different. Dogs that cannot be overpowered by people should not exist. I am extremely grateful that I was strong enough to overpower this dog who thought fighting with humans is fun. I was pretty terrified of being anywhere in the streets where it happened and I avoided parks and open spaces for a long time. Over time I found my strength again and I don't let that did attack restrict me too much. I'm definitely more nervous now walking in certain areas.

This is not a joke. People are being harmed and killed. It should not be allowed.

missingyears · 22/09/2023 01:21

Further to my previous post;

This happened on the council estate where I grew up. I had moved back home to live with my mum for a few months. This is definitely a bigger problem on council estates than anywhere else. I'm not being snobby, it's a fact.

Since then, my mum's next door neighbour acquired an xl bully. Now he has 10 xl bully pups. I stopped visiting my mum at her home because I'm too scared. The owner of the xl bully is in and out of prison, constantly and consistently stoned, gives not a fuck about anyone else, races around the estate on stolen mopeds and constantly updates his Facebook to express his emotional instability and suicidal thoughts. I can only thank god that my mum has now moved away, but I feel so sad for the people that have moved in.

This is a big threat to normal respectable law abiding citizens who live on council estates. Personally I don't find it offensive. The stereotype is true but there are many many people including children on the estates that also don't want these dogs around

TorqueWrench · 22/09/2023 21:58

The owner of the xl bully is in and out of prison, constantly and consistently stoned, gives not a fuck about anyone else, races around the estate on stolen mopeds and constantly updates his Facebook to express his emotional instability and suicidal thoughts.

How do you know him so well and why are you stalking him on FB?

Ginandtonics · 23/09/2023 08:26

TorqueWrench, probably because this in the next door neighbour to the posters Mum.

MartinChuzzlewit · 23/09/2023 08:50

TorqueWrench · 21/09/2023 22:49

I saw on tiktok that many owners are encouraging others to go to the doctors and lie about having mental health issues, and then declare that their xl is their therapy dog so that their dog can't be taken.

The mentality of these people.

I'm not advocating for XL Bullies but let's not pretend that a significant number of cat owners wouldn't lie to the doctor if the alternative was having their beloved pet removed and killed.

When did a cat last maul a human to death?

ToBrieOrNotToBrieThatIsTheQuestion · 23/09/2023 10:14

MartinChuzzlewit · 23/09/2023 08:50

When did a cat last maul a human to death?

Lions do from time to time.

But that is why we have the Dangerous Wild Animals Act.

oakleaffy · 24/09/2023 17:22

Blackcoffee1 · 19/09/2023 16:58

I’m sure your accountant is lovely, but it is literally bred into the dog. It’s in their DNA. The same way a greyhound will chase after a rabbit, even if it’s never raced before.

There’s no such thing as a gentle XL bully because hundreds of years of breeding have caused them to be violent/reactive dogs. That’s why we see these news stories saying “he was always so gentle until he snapped out of nowhere.”

Everyone knows dogs are bred for certain traits. This is the point of dog breeds. Astounds me be simplicity of the “it’s not the dog it’s the owner” brigade. Often it IS the owner. But it’s always the dog, too.

It absolutely IS the dog.
They are massively inbred and most in U.K. are traced to human aggressive dogs who have killed children and adults.
Killer Kimbo
Nico and a Human killing female

There was yet ANOTHER XL bully attack yesterday on a man in a park.

These things are ugly, but I could cope with ugly IF they weren’t so human and dog aggressive.

oakleaffy · 24/09/2023 17:29

BellaAndDave · 21/09/2023 23:21

I saw on tiktok that many owners are encouraging others to go to the doctors and lie about having mental health issues, and then declare that their xl is their therapy dog so that their dog can't be taken.

Banned breeds doesn’t trump the 2010 Equality Act. There is no legal status in the UK for therapy dogs nor emotional support dogs. Grasping at straws comes to mind.

In USA a pitbull “ Therapy” dog is seen savaging Library staff after it’s addict owner overdosed in there, and the staff went to give the addict narcan
It has made the library re evaluate what a therapy dog is.

It’s on you tube.

Tribevibes · 24/09/2023 17:38

@Missingmyusername

You are absolutely correct. I live on a council estate. It’s a BIG problem here. I worry when my kids walk to school. Too many thick shits amongst normal, working people.

Tribevibes · 24/09/2023 17:39

@missingyears see above wrong tag

Tribevibes · 24/09/2023 17:52

@Greenshake

I live on a council estate and there are indeed many, many thick shits here who own them. One jumped up on my son walking to school last year. It was on a lead and the thick shit owner said “don’t worry he won’t hurt you”.

SpidersAreShitheads · 24/09/2023 18:13

I've just realised that I think there's an XL Bully living next door. I never knew what breed it was, I patted it hello one evening and remember thinking how bloody muscly and powerful it was! In fairness, I've got a little Shih Tzu x Bichon cross so lots of dogs seem big and strong to me 😅

DS has got a dog breed scanner app on his phone (he's autistic and dogs are one of his obsessions). We just did a scan of next door's dog and it's come up as a combination of American Pit Bull Terrier, Dogue du Bordeaux, Olde English Sheepdog, and Bulldog - which is pretty much the combination of some of the XL Bully. It looks like an XL Bully so I wasn't surprised at the results - it just never occurred to me before today that it might be one.

The dog seems well-trained, and well-behaved. It's a lovely young couple who own it, I think it's the young (slightly built) woman who always walks it (when it does get a walk which isn't very often) - so absolutely zero chance of her holding it back if it did go for someone. The guy, again really lovely guy, but he's got a loud, annoying car that's been fitted with one of the huge exhausts. When he starts his car, we can't hear our TV, it's that loud. So much as I hate to stereotype, an XL bully would fit in as a status symbol.

The reason why I was so keen to know is that our front doors are literally a foot apart and there's no dividing fence. The night I patted it hello, it was dark and I took them by surprise when they came out as they didn't know I was there. I would be extremely keen to avoid "surprising" an XL Bully, just in case it triggered an instinctive reaction. And thinking about it now, it pulled her over to me to say hello, and she wasn't able to stop it. I love dogs so I didn't mind at all but I remember being very struck by the sheer muscle I could feel as I patted it.

As I say, next door's dog seems very well-trained etc, but it's not walked very often which is a bit of a concern, and when I've seen it in the garden, it does seem quite excitable. I'd just rather be extra cautious given the number of attacks involving this breed, even if that sounds ridiculous to some.

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 24/09/2023 20:05

An XL bully came into work (vets, obvs) yesterday, because she needed a smaller buster collar. She had had a minor op on her ear and I had to touch the ear two or three times and replace a collar without so much as a hint of trouble.
The owner also has already arranged muzzle training and booked her in to be spayed (the spay was postponed because of the ear).

oakleaffy · 24/09/2023 21:54

SpidersAreShitheads · 24/09/2023 18:13

I've just realised that I think there's an XL Bully living next door. I never knew what breed it was, I patted it hello one evening and remember thinking how bloody muscly and powerful it was! In fairness, I've got a little Shih Tzu x Bichon cross so lots of dogs seem big and strong to me 😅

DS has got a dog breed scanner app on his phone (he's autistic and dogs are one of his obsessions). We just did a scan of next door's dog and it's come up as a combination of American Pit Bull Terrier, Dogue du Bordeaux, Olde English Sheepdog, and Bulldog - which is pretty much the combination of some of the XL Bully. It looks like an XL Bully so I wasn't surprised at the results - it just never occurred to me before today that it might be one.

The dog seems well-trained, and well-behaved. It's a lovely young couple who own it, I think it's the young (slightly built) woman who always walks it (when it does get a walk which isn't very often) - so absolutely zero chance of her holding it back if it did go for someone. The guy, again really lovely guy, but he's got a loud, annoying car that's been fitted with one of the huge exhausts. When he starts his car, we can't hear our TV, it's that loud. So much as I hate to stereotype, an XL bully would fit in as a status symbol.

The reason why I was so keen to know is that our front doors are literally a foot apart and there's no dividing fence. The night I patted it hello, it was dark and I took them by surprise when they came out as they didn't know I was there. I would be extremely keen to avoid "surprising" an XL Bully, just in case it triggered an instinctive reaction. And thinking about it now, it pulled her over to me to say hello, and she wasn't able to stop it. I love dogs so I didn't mind at all but I remember being very struck by the sheer muscle I could feel as I patted it.

As I say, next door's dog seems very well-trained etc, but it's not walked very often which is a bit of a concern, and when I've seen it in the garden, it does seem quite excitable. I'd just rather be extra cautious given the number of attacks involving this breed, even if that sounds ridiculous to some.

Today in a middle class area I heard a whining and looked top to see one of these XL bullies straining and salivating and being held back by it's female owner.

The thing was unmuzzled, and looking at my small, well trained dog like she was prey.

I crossed the road at once and just prayed she kept hold of it's leash.

I am seriously thinking of arming myself with something, but goodness knows what- these brutes don't even stop for a 9mm bullet.

The XL in the article above was found standing over the slaughtered body of its owner, its muzzle removed.

TinglingTangling · 24/09/2023 22:10

I wish all these XL were destroyed. They are horrible dogs.

EmpressSoleil · 24/09/2023 22:45

As with the owner in the above news story. People will go to great lengths to save their dogs. I’ve read a couple of times about owners diving into rivers to save their drowning dog and then drowning themselves. So the owners of these xl bullies don’t really care that they are a risk to others, or even to themselves.

We had a dog when I was a kid, I genuinely think it had some major issues as it had some weird habits. It bit me and my sister on separate occasions and my mum made us lie to my dad as she knew he would get rid of the dog if he found out. The dog was the most important thing to her and she isn’t the only dog owner I’ve come into contact with that feels that way.

There is no way to convince someone who loves their dog that they are a danger. Whatever the breed.

oakleaffy · 24/09/2023 23:52

EmpressSoleil · 24/09/2023 22:45

As with the owner in the above news story. People will go to great lengths to save their dogs. I’ve read a couple of times about owners diving into rivers to save their drowning dog and then drowning themselves. So the owners of these xl bullies don’t really care that they are a risk to others, or even to themselves.

We had a dog when I was a kid, I genuinely think it had some major issues as it had some weird habits. It bit me and my sister on separate occasions and my mum made us lie to my dad as she knew he would get rid of the dog if he found out. The dog was the most important thing to her and she isn’t the only dog owner I’ve come into contact with that feels that way.

There is no way to convince someone who loves their dog that they are a danger. Whatever the breed.

Saving a ''Nice'' dog is understandable.

I understand 100% the man who leapt into a hot spring {almost boiling} to save his dog.

I threw myself at am XL Bully to save my small, well mannered, gentle dog- I held onto the brute's collar and was dragged along for several metres before it stopped, it's awful owner was hopeless.

This slowing the brute down by hanging onto it's collar allowed my dog to escape- I'm still injured from it {broken finger, injured back, but my sweet kind dog was worth saving.

I'd never keep an aggressive dog- some people have a theory that some women are drawn to these pitbull crosses as a sort of ''Taming the beast'' - in the same way that they are drawn to men that beat them repeatedly.

In America, they are called ''Pit *'' A certain kind of woman who think kindness will win over something with inherently dodgy temperament, be it a dog or a man.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 25/09/2023 00:50

moneyplantnation · 19/09/2023 17:37

Simple question to defenders of these large dogs, if they attack can you stop them, with your bare hands?

YES OR NO.

No one gives a shit if your a good owner or a chav or posh or trained them well or how they are bred.

I was once unlucky enough to find myself in the middle of a large-dog fight, these dogs had been to obedience classes their entire lives, were never reactive, got plenty of stimulation from walks and activities and let me tell you as a 5 foot tall woman I thought I would be dead that day.

Nobody could have predicted that was going to happen.

I think some people are delusional about the damage their dogs can do, or how driven to kill they can get when they're in the middle of a fight.

I do believe for certain that if either of those dogs were any sort of bully dog, I would have been ripped to shreds though. I wouldn't just have had a few nicks, and been a bit shaken up and dragged about, is have been in slithers.

There's absolutely no risk assessment people can make on big dogs where they can say say "yeah it's fine I'll be able to sort it".

It reminds me of the tiktok trend of asking the men in your life if they think they could take down a bear if they encountered on in the wild, and the majority of them saying yes, except it's bully owners and their own dogs.

Rb65678 · 25/09/2023 21:39

Me and my husband are owners of a 10 month old XL bully, we are both professionals. I hate the stigma that is attached to these breeds. I agree they are plenty of people that have them for the "status". However, our puppy is exceptionally trained. That saying, would I ever leave him with my children? Absolutely not! I would never leave any breed of dog in a room with my children as it's not worth the risk at all.