To think this just sums up XL Bully owners?

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Look North last night. Peter Levy is interviewing a woman who owns two XL Bullys. Both cropped and docked which she says happened in another country before she got them (yeah, course it did).

Peter asks her “so why do people want these dogs in the first place, what’s the attraction for you?”

She replies “well I wanted dogs that were good with kids and famines and stuff so we got XL Bully’s cos they’re great with kids”

Wtf? If I didn’t know better I’d swear this was a spoof interview. Good with kids and families?? These dogs have been responsible for the most human deaths in dog attacks in the UK in recent years!!! Just last week an 11 year CHILD was attacked by one of these dogs … so when looking for a child friendly dog she bypasses the golden retriever etc and goes for the breed with the biggest track record of killing humans …

He then asked her if she will comply with the muzzle when the laws are changed - she said NO.

Then the cherry on the cake … he asked her “would you leave your child alone with these dogs?” And she said “yes, absolutely. I leave my two year old alone with them all the time whilst I’m busy making dinner etc”

Honestly the interview couldn’t have been any more gobsmacking.

This just sums up XL bully owners doesn’t it? Thick as pig shit with no regard to their own safety or the safety of others.

I didn't think it would be long before someone said this.

Yes, my DH of 20 years is just like one of these dogs. Don't be daft.

www.facebook.com/reel/204292339141252?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V

Honestly, this man's reels are horrific! That baby may as well be playing with a gun.

Thick as pig shit indeed.

I have been bitten twice in my life and have been around dogs all my life and them dogs where a jack Russell and a lab.

Proving the point that smaller dogs are less likely to cause fatal injuries, given you are still here to tell the tale ? I know everyone harks back to that one incident where a grandparent left a baby within reach of a terrier, a breed bred to hunt and kill small squeaky things, but the reality is they account for very few fatalities because they are so bloody small !

I also took the time to train my children in how to behave around dogs and how to read their behaviour, and they can handle her as well as I can.

Do you seriously believe that either you or your children could restrain your dog if it decides to attack? Genuine question.

what about all the different dog breeds that bite post people ?
any dog can be trained to do x or learned behavioral, i would consider your op, with more credibility if you had a comparison, charts, statistics over the years that help your perspectives.

what about all the different dog breeds that bite post people ?

All dogs have the capacity to bite, most people who have been bitten live to tell the tale because they can get away from the dog or they or someone with them is able to overpower the dog. XL bullies are very big and powerful, if they turn they are incredibly difficult to overpower or get away from. The girl attacked in Birmingham would have had a different outcome if she hadn't been somewhere busy with a lot of people around willing to come to her aid.

@borisjohnsonsforgottencondom that is horrifying. That poor innocent baby. The dog clearly looks uncomfortable as well. If it reacted there is absolutely nothing that absolute irresponsible waste of space tool of a father could do. The child would be gone.

Not that I'd consider it responsible even if the dog was a yorkie but this is just next level.

I think most people get them as it makes them look hard and they can post photos on Instagram. Most bully owners seem to be chavs with no intention of socialising and training them properly. They need to be socialising them with not just their own family but other dogs and people as well.

They are easy to breed and sell (I've seen some going for 4k) so people see them as easy money.

People need to research before they buy their dogs.

But an xl bully is not a defined breed they keep saying. Its a big dog that is difficult to control due to its muscle mass, The intelligent person who acquired one from good friends 'who had an unexpected litter' Question is why did that good friend have 2 off the opposite sex and not neuter them? That good friend sounds like they needed a biology lesson and a good dose of common sense

The breed ban has been a total failure, and it’s widely recognised as an ill thought, hasty piece of legislation.

You can keep on saying that, quite a few people do. You can repeat it like a mantra in this post truth world. But there are a lot less of the banned breeds in the UK compared to countries that haven’t banned them, pit bulls for example. There are hardly any deaths now caused by pit bulls in the uk. In the US the number of fatalities caused by pit bulls is absolutely insane. Look up the stats.

If it had worked, there would be NO pit bulls in the UK now.

Totally flawed logic. If the ban on murder had worked, there would be no murders in the UK now. There are still murders but we’re not going to legalise murder just because a total ban hasn’t prevented every single one. Similarly the ban on crack hasn’t resulted in absolutely no crack, but no government is going to remove the ban on crack. You used a logical fallacy.

Awful video. Why can’t these morons lock themselves in with their beloved bully’s and not subject the rest of us - including their kids who have no choice - to this menace. It’s infuriating that there are now so many of these horrid dogs on our route to school and the park that we have to be so cautious and tense. Love your beasts by all means but stop inflicting them on all of us. And the poster who thinks it makes a difference that she’s an owner with a degree - guess what, your dog doesn’t give two hoots about your degree and neither would anyone unlucky enough to be attacked by your choice of pet.

@HeatherMoores your murder comparison is totally disingenuous.

Oh absolutely, I don't know why anyone would choose to own one of these. What I mean is that a working person who fucks off for eight or so hours a day hardly screams responsible owner. Whereas someone who is with the dog all of the time with acres of land so the dog didn't come into contact with the general public would maybe be different.

Yes the legislation needs updating. Especially now we have better genetic testing options. It could be improved in a number of ways. There is still a need for a BSL element.

The RSPCA is right that blanket bans on specific breeds do not solve the problem,

Absolutely APPALLING HYPOCRITES. They’ve banned specific breeds from their insurance - including fighting dog breeds and descendants/ crosses.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rspcas-own-insurance-refuses-cover-for-fighting-dogs-it-defends-fcxwg8j8d

Edit: I’m not referring to Rottweilers as fighting dogs

No it’s not at all. Lots of things are banned but that doesn’t remove them completely. That doesn’t mean you remove the ban.

It’s the argument that ‘the ban has failed because there are still some pit bulls’ that is totally disingenuous.

People often talk about these dogs being loyal and protective family members. And I’m sure most of the time that’s true as dogs do know who their family is. The problem is this isn’t a good trait because it means anyone not in the family is seen as a threat. I remember walking on the beach once and there was a big cane corso with two adults and a small child. One of the adults came over and warned against us or our dog getting too near to the child as the dog was fiercely protective of him. I found that idea terrifying. What about when the child has friends round to play, or visitors come to the house? I’m not sure getting a dog to ‘protect’ you or your children is ever a good idea. Most dogs are protective to a certain extent. My dog will sometimes stand between me and a stranger and will bark at a dog if it jumps up at me, but that’s the extent of it. One that will attack is a scary prospect. I wonder if that’s why it’s often the grandparent/ uncle/ aunty/ friend’s dog that attacks a child as it’s in the dog’s home and sees it as a threat/ wants to dominate. It’s scary stuff.

Quite

I own a staffie so I feel like I should be sympathetic toward the XL owners, I’m used to people crossing the street or pulling their dogs out of our way when we’re out walking even though my boy is 14, grey, limps and walks about as fast as a 90 year old. But I can’t feel sympathy for them, because XL Bully’s really frighten me. They’re massive, they couldn’t stop them if they started to attack someone and they were bred to look / act aggressive. I feel awful saying it but I’m glad they’ve been banned. And anyone calling them a nanny dog - they are NOT nanny dogs, that was a nickname given to staffies and I won’t have my lovely old boy lumped in with XLs. They are not the same dogs. A friend of mine owns an XL, he has two young children around the same age as my two boys as well. He’s invited us over for play dates a few times & suggested joint family dog walks but I’ve politely declined each time, I just don’t want to risk my children or my dog being the one his dog turns on. And no, I don’t leave my dog alone with my kids.

People who have an accidental litter of X-L Bullies are twats. Totally irresponsible and no regard to the actual welfare of the dogs.
Or the general public or other dogs .

@HeatherMoores given that the entire point of DDA 1991 was to make it illegal to own, sell, breed, give away or abandon certain types of dogs, its failed.

Gosh why would the RSPCA's insurance partner not want to insure certain breeds ? Pesky woke risk assessers gone mad ! Everyone knows you only have to hit youtube to see how soft as butter these breeds are, fancy not relying on those factual accounts and instead using actual statistical evidence they use statistical evidence from other countries not just the UK to make a risk assessment.

Yep. Agree with you op.

Being university educated and working in a professional, skilled role does not preclude you from being a bit hick when it comes to dogs.
Your friends who allowed an ‘accidental’ litter were completely irresponsible , with no regard to the dogs. No one who cares about their dogs allows this to happen. Twats I’m afraid. And you don’t know what you’re talking about.

@someonethatyoulovetoomuch staffies have had a bad press in the past, though the vicious ones described as staffies are usually bigger, longer legged and cross bred to be bigger, more muscular and more intimidating. So like previous posters mentioned yesteryears staffy is often unrecognisable when compared to some of the dogs being sold online as the breed. I know someone who has a breed standard one and its not much bigger or scary looking than your average French bulldog.

@Dymaxion agree. My neighbours have a properly bred staff and he is really small, doubt he even weighs 15kg.
This is just pesonal opinion but I find them much friendlier looking as well, that "staffy smile" they have which is a million miles from the blank, dead-eyed glare of the XL things.