To think this just sums up XL Bully owners?

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Look North last night. Peter Levy is interviewing a woman who owns two XL Bullys. Both cropped and docked which she says happened in another country before she got them (yeah, course it did).

Peter asks her “so why do people want these dogs in the first place, what’s the attraction for you?”

She replies “well I wanted dogs that were good with kids and famines and stuff so we got XL Bully’s cos they’re great with kids”

Wtf? If I didn’t know better I’d swear this was a spoof interview. Good with kids and families?? These dogs have been responsible for the most human deaths in dog attacks in the UK in recent years!!! Just last week an 11 year CHILD was attacked by one of these dogs … so when looking for a child friendly dog she bypasses the golden retriever etc and goes for the breed with the biggest track record of killing humans …

He then asked her if she will comply with the muzzle when the laws are changed - she said NO.

Then the cherry on the cake … he asked her “would you leave your child alone with these dogs?” And she said “yes, absolutely. I leave my two year old alone with them all the time whilst I’m busy making dinner etc”

Honestly the interview couldn’t have been any more gobsmacking.

This just sums up XL bully owners doesn’t it? Thick as pig shit with no regard to their own safety or the safety of others.

Thick as pig sh*t for sure and we all know you can’t educate pork.

By that logic there's no reason to have children either. Yet here we are, on Mumsnet.

Maybe they should ban those known to the police, criminals and drug dealers from owning dogs altogether. If you’ve been convicted of a crime then bye goes your right to own or be responsible for a dog.

Then only ‘naice responsible’ people will parade them about. I bet there’s a fair few less on the streets if that was to happen.

TikTok has been full of videos of peoples XL bullies cuddled up with their toddlers and nuzzling their babies 😫

You are minimising the risk of your dog attacking you or your child but the point is that there is a risk of any dog attacking a human, however docile they appear and the risk of an XL bully killing you if that ever happens is exponentially higher than the risk of almost any other type of dog killing you. That risk is even higher if it were to attack your child.

I know you think you're the different one and that your dog is well trained so would never do anything wrong but I'm afraid you're not correct. You don't sound impressive or responsible, you sound deluded.

My stepsister has 3 American bulldogs that she paid £12,000 EACH for…..

she’s exactly that type if woman in the 📺

I didn’t get a dog until my youngest child was 9, much as I would have loved one for myself. Even then nothing on earth would have made me have any dog other than a working Labrador which I had from a puppy - I don’t even trust golden retrievers!

To be pedantic, they are actually a markedly different breed from the American Pit Bull Terrier. People just use 'pit bull' like they use 'hoover' for any vacuum cleaner.

Range Rovers and Kugas are both SUVs but a Kuga is not a RR.

I'm also confused by all those justifying owning one by explaining they are professionals, university educated, accountants ect. Surely most professional go to work and are far too busy to give this kind of dog the stimulation it needs? Surely the only people suitable for owning this breed are farmer types, able to spend all of their time with them and plenty of land?

If you say so.

a farmer type would i assume prefer a collie

I'm not deluded at all, thank you. A breed having a greater potential for a certain trait does not mean that every dog of that breed will consistently display that trait. I've known gundogs who are frightened of loud bangs and who couldn't use their noses to track a scent to save their lives, as one example.

A bully doesn't have to display aggression consistently - just occasionally and randomly is bad enough. And the trouble is, you're not really going to know what might trigger the dog, until it attacks. If a spaniel is scared of loud bangs, you just don't use them as a gun dog. That's fine, it's not a problem. It can't do the job it's bred to do, so you don't ask it to do that job.

But what you're considering with bullies is not the same thing at all. You can't reliably assume that they will never show aggression. You can't just say 'oh well it doesn't seem aggressive, we'll just not use this one for fighting.' There is a risk that there is a latent tendency to aggression that won't be revealed until it's too late.

I agree that they need to be regulated. However, we're ultimately all at much greater risk of being killed by our partners and nobody seems too worried about that.

Just because he's always been a model husband and never raised a finger in anger doesn't change the statistics. 😂

Do you really, honestly think that as you say, only people in council houses own these dogs? You are sadly mistaken.

Well that has to be the most idiotic whataboutery ever, even for MN.

Are you actually high?

I would assume an XL Bully is a pretty effective deterrent against getting mugged/burgled though. That's the issue.

Yet it's true.

You can't trust your husband/partner. He only needs to turn once.

This summed up my thoughts tbh.

Also XL bully is not an official breed.. so what exactly makes a dog an XL Bully..??

As with every other ‘problematic’ dog breed we have had previously, it’s actually idiot owners who influence the statistical outcomes in these cases.

The RSPCA is right that blanket bans on specific breeds do not solve the problem, hence why we still have the problem. The dogs from the last breed have gone but surprise surprise we have the same behavioural issues again. It’s the owners. Not the dogs. X

I was sitting in my car today and one went past - my thought was "Is it compulsory to have a neck tattoo if you have one of these dogs?" 😉

Yes, it's quite the insult to pigs.

Humans, vehicles etc kill more humans then dogs do so with you way of thinking the world should end. I may not own a xl bully but they are not the kind of dog I would be overly worried about. When ever I'm on the park with my kids it's the little dogs I worry about the ones who bark all the time and growl. I have been bitten twice in my life and have been around dogs all my life and them dogs where a jack Russell and a lab.

I have a staffi cross and she is the most loving but useless thing going unless you are a leaf. I have been broken into twice and she had slept through the whole thing not one bark yet a leaf blood across my window and she's wants to eat it.

I really wish people would stop branding every dog with the incident which and extremely upsetting the same. Ffs is that was the case I can name a few serial killers who would of caused man kind to be wiped out.

Why do we are people think we have higher archery over everything in life we don't!

Of course people are worried about that. Mumsnet is full of women advising other women to leave their abusive partners for a start.

But most of us can have concern about more than one issue at a time, as our brains are complex.

HTH.

Not entirely relevant to be honest, a lot of the times these dogs aren't killing their owners.

But if you want to use the same analogy to highlight the problem then the risk is more likely to be my neighbour's partner crashing through my fence and murdering me while I'm sunbathing in the back garden.

Bet the statistics aren't so comparable then.

You can't trust your husband/partner. He only needs to turn once.

TBF there is usually a build up of abuse of varying levels prior to that.

If this breed of dogs attacks once, chances are you are toast, massive design flaw with the human body, arteries are relatively close to the surface, a bite to the neck, arm or thigh can be enough to cause castastrophic bleeding. I never forget the poor elderly man attacked in his own garden who had his arm ripped off at the elbow, you can only imagine the fear and pain

@chazabella

You’re not worried about a breed that can, and often does, cause horrific if not fatal injuries. But dogs that don’t are a worry to you?

Way to prove the op’s point.