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To think this just sums up XL Bully owners?

717 replies

Ozarkz · 19/09/2023 16:15

Look North last night. Peter Levy is interviewing a woman who owns two XL Bullys. Both cropped and docked which she says happened in another country before she got them (yeah, course it did).

Peter asks her “so why do people want these dogs in the first place, what’s the attraction for you?”

She replies “well I wanted dogs that were good with kids and famines and stuff so we got XL Bully’s cos they’re great with kids”

Wtf? If I didn’t know better I’d swear this was a spoof interview. Good with kids and families?? These dogs have been responsible for the most human deaths in dog attacks in the UK in recent years!!! Just last week an 11 year CHILD was attacked by one of these dogs … so when looking for a child friendly dog she bypasses the golden retriever etc and goes for the breed with the biggest track record of killing humans …

He then asked her if she will comply with the muzzle when the laws are changed - she said NO.

Then the cherry on the cake … he asked her “would you leave your child alone with these dogs?” And she said “yes, absolutely. I leave my two year old alone with them all the time whilst I’m busy making dinner etc”

Honestly the interview couldn’t have been any more gobsmacking.

This just sums up XL bully owners doesn’t it? Thick as pig shit with no regard to their own safety or the safety of others.

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Dymaxion · 19/09/2023 21:50

given that the entire point of DDA 1991 was to make it illegal to own, sell, breed, give away or abandon certain types of dogs, its failed.

@Greenshake are you saying that the XL bully is part pit bull ? do you think owners of the breed are aware of this ?

TawnyLarue · 19/09/2023 21:58

I just don’t understand why people would own a dog that they couldn’t overpower if they needed to. Especially around their children.

I’m sure there are nice and decently-raised XLs. The point is that if it decides to flip for whatever reason one day, there is absolutely fuck all you’re doing to stop it.

I don’t know how people can live like that with their kids in the house.

HeatherMoores · 19/09/2023 21:58

Greenshake · 19/09/2023 21:33

@HeatherMoores given that the entire point of DDA 1991 was to make it illegal to own, sell, breed, give away or abandon certain types of dogs, its failed.

Nothing that has been made illegal has been removed entirely. Ever.

If they weren’t banned there would be thousands more of them and many more deaths. As in the US.

Boomboom22 · 19/09/2023 22:04

It needs to be on size and jaw strength then if it is true that these monsters come from labs. Ban labs too then. Ban them all ffs. Noone needs a dog except assistance dogs. I'm starting to think farmers shouldn't have them either after the account earlier on this thread!

SomeCatFromJapan · 19/09/2023 22:06

Yeah they're not from labs.

vitahelp · 19/09/2023 22:06

TorqueWrench · 19/09/2023 18:16

But could you fight off a Tibetan Mastiff, Dogue de Bordeaux, Dogo Argentino, etc, etc? Because these types of guys are never going to settle for a Cockapoo.

There are actually far more dangerous dogs than the XL Bully, including the pit bull. Bullies tire relatively easily but pitbulls are so dangerous because they'll just keep coming like the terminator and seem to have almost limitless stamina - this is actually an intentional trait called 'gameness'. There's still pretty much no dog that can beat a true fighting pit bull. Maybe a Kangal but the jury's out on that.

And talking of Kangals, they have a bite around 2.5x the force of an XL Bully - almost 750psi vs the bully's 300psi!

Sadly, I feel there will always be another dangerous breed waiting in the wings. Many fighting breeds are more lethal than the bully, which was bred for appearance and not fighting ability.

I don’t know about them tiring easily, I remember reading an article where 2 of them had killed 24 sheep in one attack. I know the sheep wouldn’t have been putting up much of a fight but still that’s some good going..

PaulaZackMayo · 19/09/2023 22:10

Boomboom22 · 19/09/2023 22:04

It needs to be on size and jaw strength then if it is true that these monsters come from labs. Ban labs too then. Ban them all ffs. Noone needs a dog except assistance dogs. I'm starting to think farmers shouldn't have them either after the account earlier on this thread!

What fo you mean ban labs?

Dymaxion · 19/09/2023 22:16

And talking of Kangals, they have a bite around 2.5x the force of an XL Bully - almost 750psi vs the bully's 300psi!

A dog bred to specifically protect flocks from wolves and bears isn't really a suitable pet in the UK where we have neither !?

WhisperingHi · 19/09/2023 22:18

@Twistedex

Of course you don't think your dog is aggressive, it's not shown itself to be yet, so why would you?

But you're totally ignoring the risk that it can change and that stats show it's far more likely to harm or kill people than any other breed in the UK.

How can you say with any certainty that all of the XLs that have killed have been poorly handled or trained? How could you know that.

You're in denial because your dog hasn't shown aggression yet. I hope your kids remain safe.

Dymaxion · 19/09/2023 22:18

I think @Boomboom22 has fallen for the falsehood that XL bullies are bred from labradors !

depressionpitofdoom · 19/09/2023 22:31

A close relative was bitten so badly by a dog (not this breed - but a large dog) as a child that they were scarred for life. That dog was well trained, well socialised and had never shown an ounce of aggression before that incident. It was a lovely family dog who everyone adored but that day something went wrong. It had to be put to sleep but my point is nobody can ever say with certainty that their dog would never hurt anyone. It is irresponsible to ignore the possibility.

CrazyHamsterLady · 19/09/2023 22:33

I assume that the 7% who have voted YABU are bully owners 🙄 Total morons.

BabyStopCryin · 19/09/2023 22:45

My sister has a farm and had working dogs. They were well trained but she was honest that any dog could attack (no matter what breed, how well trained, how ‘just a softy’ it was) - it could be the sweetest natures animal in the world but be sick or in pain and lash out without warning.

BackAgainstWall · 19/09/2023 22:51

They are killing machines.
It’s what they are bred to do.

And yes people are as thick as shit to have them. A lot of the time they’re not on a lead, let alone wearing a collar.

These people are always chavs or drug dealers that use them for protection. Who the hell is trying to kid us that they’re not.

How many more deaths will there be?? Because it Will Keep on Happening.

They all need a needle in their necks to avoid further heart ache.

TorqueWrench · 19/09/2023 23:03

Dymaxion · 19/09/2023 22:16

And talking of Kangals, they have a bite around 2.5x the force of an XL Bully - almost 750psi vs the bully's 300psi!

A dog bred to specifically protect flocks from wolves and bears isn't really a suitable pet in the UK where we have neither !?

Is any dog possessing the ability to kill a grown man a suitable pet in the UK?

My point is that there are many other options for chavs aside from bullies. Owning a kangal is perfectly legal.

XenoBitch · 19/09/2023 23:04

CrazyHamsterLady · 19/09/2023 22:33

I assume that the 7% who have voted YABU are bully owners 🙄 Total morons.

No, just not into stereotypes.

TorqueWrench · 19/09/2023 23:05

PaulaZackMayo · 19/09/2023 20:51

I didn't think it would be long before someone said this.

Yes, my DH of 20 years is just like one of these dogs. Don't be daft.

You're 10x more likely to be killed by him than by a dog.

RawOnions · 19/09/2023 23:08

Pizzanight · 19/09/2023 20:28

I'm also confused by all those justifying owning one by explaining they are professionals, university educated, accountants ect. Surely most professional go to work and are far too busy to give this kind of dog the stimulation it needs? Surely the only people suitable for owning this breed are farmer types, able to spend all of their time with them and plenty of land?

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If you are professional and educated, and your peers don’t own these creatures, then you have even less excuse for owning one of these monsters. Can’t blame
it on low intelligence and local practices. Shame on these people.

TinglingTangling · 19/09/2023 23:18

Greenshake · 19/09/2023 20:32

Do you really, honestly think that as you say, only people in council houses own these dogs? You are sadly mistaken.

Not every single one but the vast majority are indeed the classic chav.

PaulaZackMayo · 19/09/2023 23:18

TorqueWrench · 19/09/2023 23:05

You're 10x more likely to be killed by him than by a dog.

He's not going to kill me. You need to sort your life out if you are going about your life defending these Bully dogs by coming out with this argument. You are going to get laughed at.

If you said my DH was more dangerous than my Beagle I would agree but not everyone has a Bully and a DH so how can you compare? Grow up.

I don't sleep with a Bully dog every night. You twit.

Wineat5isfine · 19/09/2023 23:24

I have a Staffie cross. He is the most loving dog, a really soppy ejit and loves all children. However, I would never leave him alone with young children for ANY length of time.

XenoBitch · 19/09/2023 23:29

TinglingTangling · 19/09/2023 23:18

Not every single one but the vast majority are indeed the classic chav.

And following on from that... it is only chavs who live in council houses?

This thread is batshit and should be removed tbh. So many fucking stereotypes being thrown about all over the place.

Justleaveitblankthen · 19/09/2023 23:32

One of these dogs walks it owner up and down my street every day.
Pulls so hard on the lead that the eight stone teen can barely hold on to.
The amount of 'fans' (usually women) they attract is embarrassing.
I'm sure if this dog could write, it would be signing autographs.

BellaAndDave · 19/09/2023 23:35

I’m not going to comment on the interview on Look North as I try not be nasty about people…

What I will say is my darling lab was killed by an XL Bully last year. We were out with our 3 labs walking where we normally walk, a normal morning walk which is always calm and it came out from the trees. There was NO warning, NO snarling, NO growling, it just attacked. We live very remotely and this abomination of a dog had been in a camper van parked up wild camping. We booted it we smacked it, DH punched it numerous times, we lifted its back legs but the bastard wouldn’t let go. It literally threw my 30kg lab around like a rag doll and he couldn’t be saved. He had internal bleeding, numerous puncture wounds and a broken back. I will never forget that attack and God knows what would have happened if my DGC had been with us. The attack only ended when DH hit the thing god knows how many times with a fence post. Let’s just say it never lived another day to attack something else.

I have no time for anyone that says these abomination of canines are about the owners and the way they’re brought up. If you’ve never seen the power and viciousness of these dogs in person you will never understand.

Before anyone quotes this post with the “oh they’re nanny dogs, big softies” shite, let me tell you I respect most owners choices but not the choice of anyone choosing an XL Bully, there’s been too many attacks on people and pets now, these ‘things’ need banned.

TorqueWrench · 19/09/2023 23:41

PaulaZackMayo · 19/09/2023 23:18

He's not going to kill me. You need to sort your life out if you are going about your life defending these Bully dogs by coming out with this argument. You are going to get laughed at.

If you said my DH was more dangerous than my Beagle I would agree but not everyone has a Bully and a DH so how can you compare? Grow up.

I don't sleep with a Bully dog every night. You twit.

Edited

I'm not at all defending XL bullies. I stated a few posts back that I agree they should be regulated. It's just interesting how people froth about the dangers of dogs yet think nothing about driving to work, making unnecessary car journeys, or the fact their partner presents a much greater risk - it's not even an opinion, the statistics are out there.

You say he's not going to kill you but that's exactly what all these bully owners say. He obviously hasn't killed you at this point but generally people only get murdered once.

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