To think this what the Russel Brand story is meant to bury?

[madamreign]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66839314

It's not half as salacious, possibly a bit dry and dull to most people.

But it's fucking constitutional dynamite

To all the conspiracy theorists on this thread: unequivocally, no, the RB story was not released to 'bury' any other story. Utterly absurd.

As far as I'm aware this idea really got hold with Chomsky's and Herman's 1988 book "Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media". So a fair while before internet forums were mainstream, and obviously a good few years before social media existed at all.

I find both extremes mind-blowing. It's insane to think that the CIA or the Illuminati control the newsrooms and the government of every country. It's also insane to think that people with money, power and direct access to what gets into mainstream newspapers don't ever have an agenda, and won't ever excercise their position to further that agenda. They're people with interests - of course sometimes they might want to bury another story or portray an event in a particular light. Look at the media circus around the time of the Brexit referendum, or even in the Trans-Gender Critical debate that MN is always talking about. That sort of media manipulation goes on all the time, except the partisan lines aren't usually quite so visible.

Oh don’t worry, they are going for the others too. It’s just a matter of time and working out how to legally get round NDAs.

There are definitely more to come. The two David's to start.

Released their doc to coincide? Impossible, doc was already in schedule plus they had no idea the RB story was breaking. Or do you mean the news report OP linked to? It’s standard for snippets from docs to be released to drum up viewing interest, it’s nothing new.

I mean, they conceivably could have known it would release, no?

But anyway, I don't think that this is the story being buried, because I don't think enough people would care anyway. But I do think there is something being kept out.

Thinking it's distracting from something doesn't necessarily mean thinking he is innocent

I find it fucking offensive that anyone would assume that the investigation into a celebrity that has been accused of repeatedly raping and sexually assaulting multiple, multiple women for decades - fucking decades would be a decoy for anything! As if the ‘story’ is mere covering fodder for the politicians antics.

It is deeply, deeply offensive to the victims, to any survivor that you op have minimised their suffering to a mere cover story.

I am now wondering about YOUR motivations to suggest such a thing.

Nice try. Try harder next time.

So Russell says be was getting ‘too close to the truth’.

Does anyone know what the truth is?

Are there lizard people?

They've buried it so deep it's the lead story yesterday on BBC breakfast news.

hiding in plain sight WAKE UP SHEEPLE YOR BEEN PLAYED

No. The ST is a Murdoch paper and he hates the BBC and would never cooperate to time a story. Channel 4 is a rival broadcaster so they wouldn’t tip off BBC either. Given it was only 24 hours before than anyone got wind they were breaking a big story together, the BBC wouldn’t have known it was coming down the line at the same time their Johnson story was airing.

Well, obviously not. 🤦🏻‍♀️

His current 'truth' is basically saying what he thinks people want to hear and putting himself centre stage.

Is he saying important things? Yes.

Is he the only one saying these things? No.

Can people saying important things also be narcissistic and/or have done wrong in other ways? Yes.

Does being transparent about addiction mean you're definitely honest about the rest of yourr life? No.

This, absolutely. How utterly demeaning to the victims to call this man's heinous acts a distraction.

1. Distraction from what, exactly?

1. Orchestrated by whom, exactly?

If all these people have are raised eyebrows and 'ooh, convenient timing' then we can safely disregard any of their childish opinions.

I don't think so. The Times hates Boris with a passion. And the story about the civil service complaining to the Queen about Boris is on the BBC, in The Times, on Sky, all over Twitter, etc. It's not buried and tbh it's not a story they'd want to bury. It's a story that shows the checks and balances in our government and shows we're not like the US with Trump. Stories like this one about Boris make it less likely we'll get another Boris - whilst the US hasn't reckoned at all with what Trump represented and still does represent.

He hasn't been accused of debauchery. He's been accused of rape, sexual assault and coercive and controlling behaviour. As you probably know.

YANBU OP. I couldn’t believe it yesterday when the RB was the top story on the BBC app and this one was a minor story lower down. Yes the RB story is terrible for the victims, but the Johnson one is surely more significant to the country.

Two David’s?

the idea that such a news stories would be used to bury bad news is nothing new, it is well known tactic.

but there is nothing new in that story and nothing really would change, the government is still likely to lose the next election and very little now could change people opinion on who to vote for

What am I reading??
For the 51% of the population a serial rapist being paid millions of tax payers money to harm and violate women and girls for decades is far more important than a civil service spat!

Lol. I skulk around enough corners of the internet to remember when the conspiracy accusations were of cover up of covid and that ‘they’ wouldn’t tell the truth that there was a big, very real, problem. That abruptly turned around when it was clear that it was real, to anything related to covid was evidence of mass manipulation and ‘them’ controlling us.

You can bet your last penny that if overlord lizard himself rocked up on the news at 10 catching flies with their tongue and informing us of plans for world domination the same crowd would be denying the evidence in front of their eyes and calling it a hoax.

It’s a strange mixture of inability to cope with reality when reality is shit and ego driven contrary-ism.

Im fed up seeing RBs face everywhere. Every tiny thing he’s ever said or did is being brought up. And he’s being tried in the court of public opinion with no defence.

yes, I believe these women. But this needs tried in a court of law.

@AmazingSnakeHead

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Nobody is saying this, though. The idea is rather that when there are big stories, the government lets otherwise headline news into the press so that it gets overlooked. Or perhaps sometimes there will be a big story which isn't time sensitive, like the Brand one, and the papers have some discretion about when to release the story.

Nobody is saying that they did the investigation specifically to bury this. It's just that timing in newspaper stories has always been used to political advantage. When a seemingly trivial story is being pushed for an entire week, it's hardly illuminati level conspiracy to ask yourself why that is."

Exactly!

Brand isn't important, he's a nasty little creature who needs to face justice.

In the meantime, nobody bothered about rampant corruption from a party that could again, win the next election?

I don't believe that the rot stopped when Boris was ejected. I don't want my country to be corrupt. I want a proper, functioning government. A proper, functioning gov could root out sexism in the Met. Instead, we have corruption top to bottom.

Whether it's civil servants feeling that they need to appeal to The Palace for help or the Met being riddled with misogyny, it's the SAME problem.

Let’s hope so! The precise point of the investigation and the airing is to encourage other victims to come forward so a solid case can be brought against Brand.

Ok. If you could please go and reform the court system so that more than 1% of reported rapes end in conviction, then we’ll all meet you there.

Yep.

@Secondwindplease

You cannot reform the courts with a corrupt gov