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To think this what the Russel Brand story is meant to bury?

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madamreign · 19/09/2023 06:58

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66839314

It's not half as salacious, possibly a bit dry and dull to most people.

But it's fucking constitutional dynamite

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madamreign · 19/09/2023 07:27

Elvis1956 · 19/09/2023 07:25

I love the way that RB is being taken down because he is speaking truth to power and undermining MSM. No he's been revealed as a predator. End off.
People have also mentioned that he's preaching to the alt right... really he's a lefty who has been challenged to put up his own money to fund things he has bleated on about and scuttled away from that.

Who cares what he thinks? The police should be dealing with him, not the media.

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madamreign · 19/09/2023 07:27

Inkpotlover · 19/09/2023 07:26

You think the ST and Dispatches spent four years tracking down rape and sexual abuse victims, gathering medical records, having it fine tooth combed by lawyers and backed up by affidavits just to cover up some hearsay about Boris sodding Johnson and the Queen? 🙄

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No.

But the timing of the release seems convenient.

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Leggytigberk · 19/09/2023 07:28

This situation with RB is very serious, Four years hard work to get it to this stage of being able to publish so much knowing they are fire-proof if Brand wants to go to court or contest it on Social Media.
The story shows that the senior people have not learned the lesson of Saville and Harris.
Compared to this, BoJo is sliding down the Who the F* Cares list.
Boris has been defeated.

Inkpotlover · 19/09/2023 07:28

Wherly · 19/09/2023 07:26

I'd love to know the practicalities of this kind of thing.

Do the journalists have to keep some sort of central authority informed of what they are working on?

Do they have to finish it then put it on file waiting for the call?

Are they recompensed for the above?

No, they don't have to let anyone "central" know. They protect their exclusives until they're ready to run. The Times and Sunday Times had their newsroom in lockdown from Wed last week as they were putting the finishing touches to it to avoid the story leaking beforehand.

renthead · 19/09/2023 07:28

This is a ridiculous take.

The Times hates BJ. Why would they want to bury a negative story about him?

VeloVixen · 19/09/2023 07:28

But who would be protecting Boris now? He's an irrelevant nobody.

MidnightOnceMore · 19/09/2023 07:28

This thread is in tin foil hat territory. Not everything is a conspiracy.

If everything was a big conspiracy I think it'd look a bit better organised.

ChillysWaterBottle · 19/09/2023 07:28

donquixotedelamancha · 19/09/2023 07:13

Yeah sure. Two separate media organisations did 4 years of investigation to bury the fact that Boris Johnson is a cunt.

I genuinely don't understand how people who think the world works this way cope with life.

'The shop's out of milk again. Oh no, the Illuminati must be restricting supply to distract us from the alien landings'

It's so embarrassing. I genuinely didn't realise there were so many brain-rotted conspiracy theorists on MN, although I guess in general they're over represented on all online spaces.

Wherly · 19/09/2023 07:28

JanglyBeads · 19/09/2023 07:26

But the TIMING of the RB story could have been manipulated couldn't it?

The Palace being asked to intervene against the sitting Prime Minister is a Big Story and very important. Especially if BJ's considering having another stab at that job in the future.

Who by? Think about it practically. How would that actually work? Who is picking up the phone to C4 and The Times?

smilesup · 19/09/2023 07:29

donquixotedelamancha · 19/09/2023 07:14

Out of morbid curiosity: who is 'they'?

Honestly do you not think that Murdoch and his ilk have huge political motivation behind the political angle of their newspapers? They are tipped off on everything Nd chose what to lead with and what not to. It's very obvious that they wanted Brexit to happen, and Johnson was their mechanism to do so. Protecting him means protecting Brexit. They and their billionaire friends have benefitted hugely from.Brexit and want that to continue.
Burying news has been a thing for centuries. In this case potentially they had sway over the release of the Johnson story and timed it to coincide with the Brand story.

Inkpotlover · 19/09/2023 07:29

madamreign · 19/09/2023 07:27

No.

But the timing of the release seems convenient.

It was because they finally got the legal sign-off to run it. It took four years of painstaking investigation. Are you saying you think they've been sitting on it for months, waiting for a Boris Johnson story to pop to bury? With respect, that sounds as deluded as he is!

Wherly · 19/09/2023 07:29

Inkpotlover · 19/09/2023 07:28

No, they don't have to let anyone "central" know. They protect their exclusives until they're ready to run. The Times and Sunday Times had their newsroom in lockdown from Wed last week as they were putting the finishing touches to it to avoid the story leaking beforehand.

You missed the point.

Maireas · 19/09/2023 07:30

donquixotedelamancha · 19/09/2023 07:13

Yeah sure. Two separate media organisations did 4 years of investigation to bury the fact that Boris Johnson is a cunt.

I genuinely don't understand how people who think the world works this way cope with life.

'The shop's out of milk again. Oh no, the Illuminati must be restricting supply to distract us from the alien landings'

Indeed. It's very odd. However, RB himself is into that sort of stuff.

lljkk · 19/09/2023 07:30
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Maireas · 19/09/2023 07:31

@ChillysWaterBottle - I think that must be the case.

Noicant · 19/09/2023 07:31

Not everything is a conspiracy, most things are in fact not conspiracies. But then I guess maybe thats what they want you to think 👀

Cornettoninja · 19/09/2023 07:31

Hollyhead · 19/09/2023 07:00

It’s not that well planned, but someone is taking the opportunity to release that story that’s for sure. Every thing about BJ was constitutional cyanamide though, and Joe average doesn’t seem to give a shit about undermining the constitution.

exactly.

@madamreign the constitutional dynamite was about three years ago when the UK Supreme Court held that Parliament had been unlawfully prorogued in September 2019.

The Huw Edwards thing all came out the same time as Boris’ WhatsApp messages and refusing to hand over his phone

@GrowUpWoman i was aware of and discussed both, didn’t you?

Seems like a lot of self soothing going on - you’re not being distracted, you’re not paying attention.

madamreign · 19/09/2023 07:31

That the gov try to manipulate the media, is not a conspiracy theory.

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CwmYoy · 19/09/2023 07:31

I'm sure an aging publisher is enjoying his dish served cold.

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/09/2023 07:32

The police should be dealing with him, not the media.

For someone so up on the media, you seem to have missed a few recent stories about the police and sex offending. Please Google 'police, sex offences, completely shit, don't give a fuck, predators themselves'. For a start.

Take the tin foil hat off for the results. Otherwise your mind might actually blow.

Maireas · 19/09/2023 07:32

donquixotedelamancha · 19/09/2023 07:14

Out of morbid curiosity: who is 'they'?

.... don't ask 👀.....

Wsmi · 19/09/2023 07:32

It’s definitely distracting from something but not sure what.

Maybe the fact that peak corruption has been reached with regards to HS2. Hundreds of billions have been stolen by the government and their cronies. The taxpayer is being fleeced to the tune of £8pm a year for this, yet it turns out that may not even go to Birmingham. No one knows where the money has gone. No one knows and no one is asking. It is absolutely astonishing that hundreds and billions are being embezzled in front of our very eyes and the public is saying nothing.

madamreign · 19/09/2023 07:33

@Cornettoninja

Yes I was aware of those.

I think this important too- you don't or do you just want to feel smug?

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LolaSmiles · 19/09/2023 07:33

They don't necessarily have to have coordinated the release of these stories to be burying bad news.

Releasing unfavorable stories about the government whilst the public are distracted has been done for years. The same was suggested when 9/11 happened.

Wanderingllama · 19/09/2023 07:34

The police should be dealing with him, not the media.
The police is bit busy
www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/19/police-met-officers-suspended-or-restricted-duties