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To think this what the Russel Brand story is meant to bury?

519 replies

madamreign · 19/09/2023 06:58

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66839314

It's not half as salacious, possibly a bit dry and dull to most people.

But it's fucking constitutional dynamite

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MechaBuilder · 19/09/2023 15:42

Jumpingthruhoops · 19/09/2023 15:31

Not 'hilarious' at all. Just my polite way of saying 'Do your own research!' Like the rest of us have done.

This might surprise you but I'm not obliged to DO anything some random on the internet asks me to.

Anyone with a brain knows exactly what I mean by 'the establishment'. Stop being obtuse.

Ha ha ha, bingo to whoever first said the response would be ‘do your own research’!!

Okay then, I’m thick. I don’t know who you mean by the establishment and don’t know where to start with research. Please give me some names or job titles of who you regard to be in the establishment so I can research them and understand. Genuinely, I would like to know.

WomblingTree86 · 19/09/2023 15:43

whatwasthatgrandma · 19/09/2023 15:34

"Do your own research" The rallying cry of the uneducated brainwashed youtube following who are literally the people least able to do any kind of actual research.

your research is the nonsensical ramblings of idiots.

Yes, their idea of a research involves listening to grifters on social media.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 19/09/2023 16:08

@madamreign it’s brooch.

This is the first time I’ve ever corrected anyone online but you’ve driven me to it.

IClaudine · 19/09/2023 16:17

Not 'hilarious' at all. Just my polite way of saying 'Do your own research!' Like the rest of us have done

Sigh.

madamreign · 19/09/2023 16:24

IClaudine · 19/09/2023 16:17

Not 'hilarious' at all. Just my polite way of saying 'Do your own research!' Like the rest of us have done

Sigh.

I've never heard anybody use that phrase, who could "research" their own arse with one hand.

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CherryMaDeara · 19/09/2023 16:27

Jumpingthruhoops · 19/09/2023 15:31

Not 'hilarious' at all. Just my polite way of saying 'Do your own research!' Like the rest of us have done.

This might surprise you but I'm not obliged to DO anything some random on the internet asks me to.

Anyone with a brain knows exactly what I mean by 'the establishment'. Stop being obtuse.

But I thought RB and his 'awakening wonders' are all about awakening the masses?!

How will you awaken me and enable me to 'stay free' if you tell me to do my own research?

I truly don't know what you mean by establishment. Tell me please.

CherryMaDeara · 19/09/2023 16:28

Seems to be deleted, what was it?

Cornettoninja · 19/09/2023 16:30

@CherryMaDeara it still works for me??? It’s exploding heads - comedy

Cornettoninja · 19/09/2023 16:31

Jumpingthruhoops · 19/09/2023 15:31

Not 'hilarious' at all. Just my polite way of saying 'Do your own research!' Like the rest of us have done.

This might surprise you but I'm not obliged to DO anything some random on the internet asks me to.

Anyone with a brain knows exactly what I mean by 'the establishment'. Stop being obtuse.

Why are you gate keeping the truth? Is it only for the elite?

I’ve heard about you lot…

Jumpingthruhoops · 19/09/2023 16:32

MechaBuilder · 19/09/2023 15:42

Ha ha ha, bingo to whoever first said the response would be ‘do your own research’!!

Okay then, I’m thick. I don’t know who you mean by the establishment and don’t know where to start with research. Please give me some names or job titles of who you regard to be in the establishment so I can research them and understand. Genuinely, I would like to know.

Well, that's because the answer is to 'do your own research'. No 'ha, ha' about it. 🙄

Not really sure why you're on here trying to ridicule others when you can't even do the basics.

As I've already said, the best thing to do to inform yourself on the establishment RB is talking about is to watch the videos on his YouTube channel. It's all there.

Cornettoninja · 19/09/2023 16:33

https://x.com/Exploding_Heads/status/1703733539580137757?s=20

maybe this one works better.

Very new to x/twitter because the new school uses it - I learned today they only share links in a specific way Grin

https://x.com/Exploding_Heads/status/1703733539580137757?s=20

IClaudine · 19/09/2023 16:33

CherryMaDeara · 19/09/2023 16:27

But I thought RB and his 'awakening wonders' are all about awakening the masses?!

How will you awaken me and enable me to 'stay free' if you tell me to do my own research?

I truly don't know what you mean by establishment. Tell me please.

The awakening wonders are conspiring the keep the truth from the rest of us...

Cornettoninja · 19/09/2023 16:35

IClaudine · 19/09/2023 16:33

The awakening wonders are conspiring the keep the truth from the rest of us...

Knowledge is power and power always corrupts Sad

MechaBuilder · 19/09/2023 16:36

Jumpingthruhoops · 19/09/2023 16:32

Well, that's because the answer is to 'do your own research'. No 'ha, ha' about it. 🙄

Not really sure why you're on here trying to ridicule others when you can't even do the basics.

As I've already said, the best thing to do to inform yourself on the establishment RB is talking about is to watch the videos on his YouTube channel. It's all there.

I will absolutely not be watching Brand’s videos, no way will I be adding views to that weasels’ media.

Why can’t you just give us a round up? A lot of us would love to hear, genuinely.The problem is, the more you say ‘do your own research’ the more it confirms that you don’t know the answer. If you were to ask me about a topic I was passionate about, I would happily discuss it with you. The fact that you are not doing so makes it seem as though you have no idea who the individuals in ‘the establishment’ are. I genuinely want to know some names or some job titles so I can investigate myself. Are they government roles? Are the roles within the WHO? Are they roles within the EU? Other governments? Or is there some secret society we need to be made aware of? Who are ‘they’?

CherryMaDeara · 19/09/2023 16:42

IClaudine · 19/09/2023 16:33

The awakening wonders are conspiring the keep the truth from the rest of us...

Not very awakeny of them.

VimtoVimto · 19/09/2023 16:43

whatwasthatgrandma · 19/09/2023 15:34

"Do your own research" The rallying cry of the uneducated brainwashed youtube following who are literally the people least able to do any kind of actual research.

your research is the nonsensical ramblings of idiots.

I’ve always thought if I was so sure of my position I would have a list of references backing it up.

fliptopbin · 19/09/2023 16:44

Haven't rtft, so apologies if I am repeating others, but OP has it backwards. A big story like Russell Brand would be, to quote The West Wing, "time to take out the trash". So I wouldn't be surprised if some story that the govt knows will break eventually is sneaked out now while people are distracted. The Boris story doesn't fit here because he has been comprehensively turfed out by his own party. Also, that story has also been researched for years.

WillowCraft · 19/09/2023 16:47

Inkpotlover · 19/09/2023 07:26

You think the ST and Dispatches spent four years tracking down rape and sexual abuse victims, gathering medical records, having it fine tooth combed by lawyers and backed up by affidavits just to cover up some hearsay about Boris sodding Johnson and the Queen? 🙄

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No, but the timing of the release of the two items..neither had to be released at any particular time, there was a decision to be made on the timing. Presumably they avoid major sports fixtures, Christmas, election time when scheduling these things. Everyone knew the BBC documentary was coming out. Maybe the rightwing media decided to release the RB news now because of that?

CherryMaDeara · 19/09/2023 16:47

Cornettoninja · 19/09/2023 16:33

https://x.com/Exploding_Heads/status/1703733539580137757?s=20

maybe this one works better.

Very new to x/twitter because the new school uses it - I learned today they only share links in a specific way Grin

That works thanks! Colin from Portsmouth sounds like every guy who calls LBC!

Jumpingthruhoops · 19/09/2023 16:52

CherryMaDeara · 19/09/2023 16:27

But I thought RB and his 'awakening wonders' are all about awakening the masses?!

How will you awaken me and enable me to 'stay free' if you tell me to do my own research?

I truly don't know what you mean by establishment. Tell me please.

Now, I'm pretty sure you're trolling. It's not my job to awaken you. I'm baffled as to why you want someone to explain things, when you can literally just look yourself.
I'm over this conversation now.

Cornettoninja · 19/09/2023 16:57

@Jumpingthruhoops now, now. You’ve already got the brains and the truth. There’s no need to be such a big meanie.

YoureALizardHarry11 · 19/09/2023 17:09

Jumpingthruhoops · 19/09/2023 16:52

Now, I'm pretty sure you're trolling. It's not my job to awaken you. I'm baffled as to why you want someone to explain things, when you can literally just look yourself.
I'm over this conversation now.

One of the fundamental rules of credible arguments is, ‘’He who makes the claim provides the facts’’

If you say something, you need to back it up. As pp have said, if you were that confident in your convictions, you would have absolutely no issue with providing references.

‘’Do your own research’’ is just a tired old line. The second I see that I immediately know that the person is a gullible idiot who likes to think they are intelligent.

It’s very entertaining to watch, actually. I’ve got my conspiracy theorist bingo card at the ready 🤣

Jumpingthruhoops · 19/09/2023 17:23

YoureALizardHarry11 · 19/09/2023 17:09

One of the fundamental rules of credible arguments is, ‘’He who makes the claim provides the facts’’

If you say something, you need to back it up. As pp have said, if you were that confident in your convictions, you would have absolutely no issue with providing references.

‘’Do your own research’’ is just a tired old line. The second I see that I immediately know that the person is a gullible idiot who likes to think they are intelligent.

It’s very entertaining to watch, actually. I’ve got my conspiracy theorist bingo card at the ready 🤣

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Eh? I haven't made any 'claims', Russell Brand did! He can provide all the evidence you want. I'm frankly baffled as to why you would want someone on the internet to detail all the people he's held to account in his podcast when you can just watch the podcast? That makes zero sense.

Russell Brand didn't amass 6.5 million YT followers from 'word of mouth'. No. Each one of those people watched his content and decided they wanted to follow him, including many people who admitted to hating him before, but liked how he was one of very few voices challenging the preferred narrative.

So, go on, have a look. You might actually learn something.

Cornettoninja · 19/09/2023 17:25

Russell Brand didn't amass 6.5 million YT followers

sounds a bit establishmenty to me. Is his stuff on a platform that isn’t monetised?

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