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To display a boudoir photograph with a child in the home?

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Notgoingononlyfansyet · 18/09/2023 22:59

I ‘won’ one of those boudoir shoots and bought some pictures. It was just a bit of a fun, but the pictures are AMAZING. They honestly make me feel capable of anything and really brought home to me that everyday me isn’t all I can be. That with a little extra expertise and resource I can do something very, very different. It’s such a great concept to get my head around and apply in general. (Also, I look smoking hot and who doesn’t love that?!)

I really want to display some of the pictures. They aren’t tacky or sleazy. I’m wearing more that I was on the beach last month. Full Bra, brazillian pants, and a jacket in some shots. No stockings, thongs or bondage type undies. No handcuffs, but some hobby props (a hat and a book. Some pearls) She sees me naked all the time (but I respect her privacy however she prefers and I don’t brazenly wander about naked. We have dogs that open doors, it’s unavoidable, not deliberate or overtly liberal. She locks the bathroom, but will happily yell for me to get her a towel etc. All no big deal in an all girl household) But the pics are overtly sensual. I don’t have a partner and her father is permanently out of the picture for over than a decade. I do sometimes date and she knows about that in age appropriate detail.

My biggest concern is that she will connect it with my dating (which is fairly new and not unconnected in that both are because I feel more sexy than I have for years) but it’s not that dating leads to needing to change to be attractive for dates. It’s feeling more attractive and exploring that through dating AND how I present myself now I have a bit more freedom from lone parenting. How much do I share?! Is it creepy? Is it tacky, even though the pic itself isn’t? Or is it empowering and celebrating myself? (I could have one without my face in and make put it’s not me, but that seems even weirder!)

I’m not going to hang it in the sitting room, but she’ll see it often in my room. So will her friends as they come in and out of her room, because the only blank wall faces the door and our dogs open the door. We’ll have to have at least a chat about not telling my mother/all the neighbours/the greengrocer’s cat about it, what to say to her friends and not to let them photograph it! I just don’t think she’ll get it. I wouldn’t have got it at her age. (I wouldn’t have got it 12 months ago!). Is it unreasonable to expect her to get it with the right framing or should I wait? Until
when?!

All views welcome, but be polite! (Apologies for length, I’m thinking out loud)

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PaulaZackMayo · 20/09/2023 21:28

I've annoyed someone so much they've sent me to bed 😂😂😂😂

GodDammitCecil · 20/09/2023 21:29

PaulaZackMayo · 20/09/2023 21:28

I've annoyed someone so much they've sent me to bed 😂😂😂😂

🤣🤣

bluecloudme · 20/09/2023 21:29

PhantomUnicorn · 20/09/2023 21:13

"They aren’t tacky or sleazy. I’m wearing more that I was on the beach last month. Full Bra, brazillian pants, and a jacket in some shots. No stockings, thongs or bondage type undies. No handcuffs, but some hobby props (a hat and a book. Some pearls)"

From the OP's post.

I don't think she's going to get into trouble for her kid or others seeing those, unless you want to start prosecuting every pin up calendar or advert of women in their undies.

The OP initially said they were "overtly sensual".

She did change that later on in the thread when it became clear that people in general weren't going to say what a good idea it was - but at the strat she said they were "overly sensual".

It is worth noting that I have not expressed an opinion on (1) whether that is the law or (2) if it is the law, whether the law should be changed.

I'm picking up on what has been said by PPs, which has the ring of truth to it. It is a question of fact though - either the statutory definition does or does not say what PP says it does.

LilyPondFloat · 20/09/2023 21:29

’Growing up, my family had loads of risqué fancy dress parties and silly panto and stuff. But I KNEW it was just playful. There was no suggestion of actual sex, just silliness and flirting. I’ve seen my mum dressed as all sorts of naughty nuns and the like. I think I was about 14 when I first went to see the Rocky horror picture show. Dressed up. With my mum and a ton of other family.’

I think OP’s childhood has normalised this kind of thing for her.

SurprisedWithAHorse · 20/09/2023 21:30

PaulaZackMayo · 20/09/2023 21:25

Go to bed! 😂

That's hilarious.

Can I finish watching my programme?

I'll just let the Husband know that I've just been sent to bed by @SurprisedWithAHorse on MUMSNET

😂

You were the one who was talking about losing sleep. Now you say you're watching TV? With your husband? While still on your phone sending numerous emojis to express just how not engaged or bothered you are?

("Mate"?)

LilyPondFloat · 20/09/2023 21:31

PaulaZackMayo · 20/09/2023 21:25

Go to bed! 😂

That's hilarious.

Can I finish watching my programme?

I'll just let the Husband know that I've just been sent to bed by @SurprisedWithAHorse on MUMSNET

😂

Maybe it was a ‘sensual’ go to bed instruction…?😏

bluecloudme · 20/09/2023 21:31

SurprisedWithAHorse · 20/09/2023 21:24

Are you seriously suggesting that it would be illegal - child abuse, no less - to have lingerie shots on display in a private home?

How many arrests should we be making regarding bikini cover shots on magazines and calendars on public display in shops? Or in adverts?

And you claim to be a lawyer?

I'm suggesting anything - other than that you read my post again to read what is says.

It matters not a jot to me whether you believe i'm a lawyer or not.

PaulaZackMayo · 20/09/2023 21:31

SurprisedWithAHorse · 20/09/2023 21:30

You were the one who was talking about losing sleep. Now you say you're watching TV? With your husband? While still on your phone sending numerous emojis to express just how not engaged or bothered you are?

("Mate"?)

😂😂😂😂😂

Roxy69 · 20/09/2023 21:32

No, it's very creepy and grim. I'm glad you feel good about yourself but it's going way too far to put them on display.

SurprisedWithAHorse · 20/09/2023 21:33

bluecloudme · 20/09/2023 21:31

I'm suggesting anything - other than that you read my post again to read what is says.

It matters not a jot to me whether you believe i'm a lawyer or not.

I have. You claim to be a lawyer and you are warning about possible legal consequences relating to child abuse if OP puts some lingerie shots up in her house where her teenager might see them.

There have been some mad reaches on this thread by people who really, really want to shame OP for the photo shoot that totally doesn't offend them. But attempting to do this by equating it with child abuse is...another level.

Buffs · 20/09/2023 21:35

Bit weird and cringey. No, don’t do it.keep it private.

GodDammitCecil · 20/09/2023 21:36

This thread is hilarious.

MN is, as ever, a window into another world.

bluecloudme · 20/09/2023 21:39

SurprisedWithAHorse · 20/09/2023 21:33

I have. You claim to be a lawyer and you are warning about possible legal consequences relating to child abuse if OP puts some lingerie shots up in her house where her teenager might see them.

There have been some mad reaches on this thread by people who really, really want to shame OP for the photo shoot that totally doesn't offend them. But attempting to do this by equating it with child abuse is...another level.

My post said I am not an expert in child law, but refers to PPs who have said that the definition of child abuse includes causing a child to see sexual images.

IF that is correct, and IF the OP's photos are as she said they were, i.e. "sensual" (coy version of "sexual" ) then it is conceivable that it could be within the legal definition of abuse.

I haven't said that IS the case. Nor have I said that I think it SHOULD or SHOULD NOT be the case.

All i have said is that the OP needs to be careful.

If I had time I would look up the definition to give you all chapter and verse but but I want to watch the new season of Virgin River.

PaulaZackMayo · 20/09/2023 21:42

@bluecloudme I've not watched that. I think I'm going to binge it over winter. Enjoy! 😁

SurprisedWithAHorse · 20/09/2023 21:43

GodDammitCecil · 20/09/2023 21:36

This thread is hilarious.

MN is, as ever, a window into another world.

I'll say. Private lingerie shots are an outrage, homes are "public display" as one poster put it, totally bona fide lawyers warn of legal consequences if you put boudoir shots on your bedroom wall and women show how much fun they're having watching TV with their husbands by constantly breaking off to bang wordless lines of emojis into the ether.

And posters have been complaining about photo shoots being a fantasyland?

PaulaZackMayo · 20/09/2023 21:45

women show how much fun they're having watching TV with their husbands by constantly breaking off to bang wordless lines of emojis into the ether.

😘

bluecloudme · 20/09/2023 21:47

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GodDammitCecil · 20/09/2023 21:48

Morning here, and I’m on my way into work - it’s certainly keeping me entertained!!

JaneJeffer · 20/09/2023 21:49

women show how much fun they're having watching TV with their husbands by constantly breaking off to bang wordless lines of emojis into the ether
⚽️ 🥱 📲 👙🐶🚪👩‍👧👎🙈🚫

Dolores87 · 20/09/2023 21:50

bluecloudme · 20/09/2023 21:39

My post said I am not an expert in child law, but refers to PPs who have said that the definition of child abuse includes causing a child to see sexual images.

IF that is correct, and IF the OP's photos are as she said they were, i.e. "sensual" (coy version of "sexual" ) then it is conceivable that it could be within the legal definition of abuse.

I haven't said that IS the case. Nor have I said that I think it SHOULD or SHOULD NOT be the case.

All i have said is that the OP needs to be careful.

If I had time I would look up the definition to give you all chapter and verse but but I want to watch the new season of Virgin River.

This is such a rediculous take 😂 what am I even reading.

If exposing a child to some lingerie shots with an attempt at a seductive pose was child abuse we should all have social services around for walking past Ann Summers to get to WH Smiths 😂

SurprisedWithAHorse · 20/09/2023 21:51

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Anyone who believes you're a lawyer certainly deserves to be parted from their money!

bluecloudme · 20/09/2023 21:54

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Myfavouritepenguin · 20/09/2023 21:55

One of the craziest threads ever!

At worst, boudoir shots might be a tad cringey for family to see. But what’s all this nonsense about potential abuse?! Really? I hardly think so. There’s some serious virtue-signalling and safe-guarding one-up-manship going on here 😂

SurprisedWithAHorse · 20/09/2023 22:01

Myfavouritepenguin · 20/09/2023 21:55

One of the craziest threads ever!

At worst, boudoir shots might be a tad cringey for family to see. But what’s all this nonsense about potential abuse?! Really? I hardly think so. There’s some serious virtue-signalling and safe-guarding one-up-manship going on here 😂

I know I was complaining about it earlier, but actually I'm starting to respect the posters who didn't try to use the daughter as a fig leaf and were just straight up obvious about the fact that they can't handle the idea of boudoir shots.

There's something far worse about exploiting child abuse to try to legitimise your offence at boudoir photography.

bluecloudme · 20/09/2023 22:02

SurprisedWithAHorse · 20/09/2023 21:51

Anyone who believes you're a lawyer certainly deserves to be parted from their money!

Fair enough MMHQ, one word i used in that post is intemperate, i apologise.

I stand by "dogmatic" - or are you going to delete that too?

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