(Covid) To think these recommendations are bonkers?

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So the government commission into how to memorialise the Covid pandemic has recommended the government implement “A UK-wide day of reflection should be established and held annually.”

Other recommendations include national memorials (10 sites already identified!), oral histories and museums plus additional funding for local authorities to set up their own memorials.

I can’t be the only one who thinks this is nuts and hope the government ignores the recommendations? I genuinely cannot believe people get paid to produce this crap.

people having multiple vaccines for something they say they have had 5 times

People who have had multiple vaccines might be immunosuppressed - the vaccines don't work so well at preventing infection in immunosuppressed patients, but they do reduce severity. I'm immunosuppressed and I've had seven jabs (eighth booked for this week) but have had covid ten times - all very mildly apart from the first, before I was vaccinated.

Blimey jerry, much love, sounds like an awful time. Oh don't forget changing the very definition of vaccines in dictionaries.

I think there are lots of lessons to learn from Covid. Being better prepared, not being wasteful with public funds, when is the most sensible time to impose measures to reduce circulation if you’re going to do it, lots of “what not to do under any circumstances”, like sending infected people into homes.

Also, re protecting vulnerable people if measures do need to happen - single people were just left all alone in lockdown 1, which I still think is terrible . People in abusive relationships - what support was given to them?

Money that could be used on nhs or desperately needed mental health clinics

Why do you keep having them? They have basically said the last lot didn't work, oh but this new one totes will. Hmm.

You can only really protect some vulnerable people in a situation like we had. What makes things better for some makes them worse for others.

I hate all the revisionist sneering about the measures that were put in place. It's easy to be snarly and vitriolic now thousands of people aren't dying from a new virus every week. It's very easy to forget what those early days were like.

Yes to this...see also being deaf. I was a support worker for deaf adults at the time and the amount of times I was told to put my mask back on by people who had no clue about deaf communication was ridiculous. Even when I explained I was often told to "just shout louder"...like that makes a difference to a profoundly deaf person. Honestly the ignorance surrounding that and most other "invisible" disabilities was frightening.

Could have interactive pot banging section

yanbu op

@Alighttouchonthetiller I do agree. But I think there are lessons to be learned (in a sensible calm way)

@TrashedSofa I think there were some things that were really obvious, but your point is the reason why I think so study has to be made of what could have been done better during times when we’re not currently in a crisis.

For what its worth I forgive the government up to about 15 April 2020. The rest? I want to see Hancock, Johnson, and Gove in prison. Especially Hancock. Johnson went where the wind of focus groups took him. Hancock reveled in it. Masking kids because it was easier than explaining that there was no evidence and Scotland was batshit, oh and deploying the new variant. Actually, I'm not sure prison is enough.

There were so many people (bots maybe) arguing the fact that vaccines don't stop you developing a disease, just mitigate the effects. Literally that was not the definition, in before times, yes the disease would enter your body, but because of the vaccine your immune system knew the agent and would fight it before you got ill. This was the whole understanding of vaccines surely?

I'm sorry for not trusting pharma an inch, but I don't trust pharma an inch. Mrna seemed to be a non starter before covid, I'll pass.

A statue of Boris Johnson fashioned from pasta and toilet rolls!!

I didn’t actually mind the pot banging. It was a chance to see the neighbours! But I realise it could have felt very patronising and unhelpful if you actually worked in thé NHS

I don’t think she’s saying the govt were free of blame for many things. I think she’s talking about those who now think all the restrictions were unnecessary, and that we should have all just ignore them.

It was certainly a chance to see which neighbours were utterly bonkers!

Thankfully, few of our neighbours fell for that crap and it quickly died out after the first week of nonsense. The first week, I'd say maybe 3 or 4 people did it on our street. Second week it was just the one crazy women who lives opposite (she's crazy on so many levels!). Third week, everyone ignored it.

These are from the tin hat wearers who can’t seem to grasp that the measures put in place = fewer deaths.

Ive lost count of how many comments I’ve read saying how covid wasn’t as bad as we were told it was going to be and that we were lied to because not that many people died etc.

But the same people are also commenting on how masks, vaccines and lockdowns didn’t work 🤦‍♀️

They are just very confused and not very bright.
They also like to think they’re part of some special club that knows what’s going on and the rest of us don’t.

Apart from the fact deaths peaked after the introduction of the vaccine, those makeshift hospitals that cost billions that were not used by even one patient. Oh sorry my tinfoil has come loose (dickhead)

I didn’t do it because it scared my wimp of a dog but I thought it was a lovely gesture.

The NHS staff are often taken for granted and it’s nice to give them acknowledgment with clapping and rainbows.

They had no choice but to be right in the thick of it with people who are contagious and it must have been a very scary time for them and their families.

I think it also helped people who lived alone feel less isolated when everyone was out the front clapping together.

Being appalled at rules which made people say goodbye to loved ones via Facetime, or where grieving children couldn't comfort their bereaved surviving parent at funerals, or where mask exempt people were physically attacked, or those living with DV were locked in with their abuser, or that vulnerable people living alone could not access support but our government saw fit to party doesn't make you a 'tin hat wearer' or 'not very bright'.

Ahh yes it was the vaccine killing everyone.

I think it was because it was brought down to Earth by little green men who were able to land on our flat planet so easily.

It wasn't a lovely gesture it was idiotic virtue signalling. You are idiotic.

"But you can only enter the museum through the one way system door, then follow the arrows on the floor around the museum. The museum toilets must have every other sink taped over and cubicles not in use. The cafe must only serve cold food that counts as a takeaway snack, not in any way a sit down meal."

Bloody hell. This isn't a museum but a whole reliving it immersive experience. Shudder.

I didn't say that. I stated a fact.

Says you that thinks it was the vaccine that caused a rise in deaths lol.