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Divorce on the cards, I'm at breaking point

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Wanttobenameless · 11/09/2023 18:10

Please may I ask, be kind? I am in a bit of a state...

I won't go in to all the ins and outs, as it would be akin to War & Peace, though that might be a good title for this - Without the 'Peace' part.

So today, on our 25th wedding anniversary, when we should be celebrating and going out for a meal, my DH threw the £250 cash I gave him in his card, back at me.
He then proceeded to tell me no thought had gone in to it, and that instead of buying me a gift, he'd considered divorce (lovely to hear on our wedding anniversary!).
To be fair, he'd bought me a lovely tennis bracelet, and I gave him money simply because whatever I have ever bought him, he's either told me it's a waste of money, he doesn't need it, don't bother, etc.
I did look at gifts but knew it would be a waste of money, and even a weekend away, but he hates going away, so it would be so wasteful.
So I gave him money so he could buy what he wanted, and all this has blown up, because 'I made no effort' even though he tells me over and over 'not to bother, you're wasting your money as I don't need/want it (gift).'

So apparently I am the unreasonable one for not making an effort and it's I who has ruined today, not him (no wonder I'm confused!).

Some background -

There are gifts I've bought him over the years still in his drawers, never opened or used.
He consistently tells me there is nothing he wants or needs, and not to buy him anything, though I have always tried to buy thoughtful gifts through the year (for everyone, not just DH).
So, I have given in lately and given him money instead (even though I always prefer to buy people gifts) so it isn't wasted and he can buy something he wants.
I really wanted to get him something for our 25th, but I knew a watch, or anything 'silver' would simply live in his drawer, never to see the light of day (along with the other watches, wallets, etc., I've bought him over the years).
I mentioned this, and he said, 'It's the sentiment, you could have got me something silver to keep, but instead chose to be lazy and just give me money.'
I did not choose to be lazy at all, I looked and looked, but just thought, what is the point, he'll never use it or even look at it, just give him money so he can buy what he wants, which is what he always asks for.
No matter what I do, it's never right.

We've been going through a rough patch for a few years to be honest, and there is a lot of resentment.
He's golf obsessed, and that is his number one priority.
Nothing, and I mean nothing, gets in the way of that.
He moans about being too busy at work, yet he plays 1-4 times a week, whilst I keep house, run my business, look after DS mainly, etc.
For instance, when I'd had our baby by C-Section, I was on the phone to the health visitor quite upset (slight baby blues) - He came in to the lounge, took one look at me in distress, and walked out to play golf for the day.
Another instance - When I was heavily pregnant, I fell asleep on the sofa, and he'd been upstairs paying to interact with porn online and I was devastated.
I already felt huge, fat, unattractive, and miserable.
So for him to do that when I was heavily pregnant with his child, it floored me.
I spent nights driving around as I couldn't bear to sleep in the same bed as him. Not once did he call to see where I was, he slept soundly.
I moved out for a while to my mum's. He came round to see me one day, but only after he'd finished his golf tournament.
Stupidly, I gave in and went home. Even writing this, I feel so weak and pathetic.

He hates going on holiday. He moans constantly about how busy he'll be when we get back home. It ruins the holiday.
Yet when we return home, he does 2.5 days work and the rest on the golf course.
He says we can't afford to go away (rubbish, he earns a lot of money), yet was going to spend £700 to go and watch our team play a friendly in Spain this summer.

I am going to a spa day this weekend, only my second time out this year. He isn't happy about it at all, but I'm going.
I don't go out often because I prefer to spend time with my DS at the weekend when I'm not working, and to be honest, I can't afford to, whereas DH can and does.

When our DS was sick, I slept on his bedroom floor next to his cot to comfort him, as DH wouldn't let him sleep in our bed, so he had a huge bed to himself whilst me and our DS slept on a cold hard floor in the winter.
This has happened a few times.
God I really do sound pathetic now - I never used to put up with stuff like this!

DH is very controlling in all aspects, but most definitely financially.
He is a high earner, but keeps his money to himself. He pays me a dividend from his company, but I never see any of it, not a penny. He keeps it.
Yes, he pays the bills, but the dividend is huge, and way more than the bills costs pm.

He has only hit me once, ages ago (and to be fair, I did slap him back as I was furious), but is verbally abusive, and he shouts a lot at our DS, though he has never laid a finger on him (no way would I still be here if he had).

He is quick to anger, and can flip quickly, like this morning when I gave him cash for our anniversary, because he always tells me whatever I buy him, he doesn't want or need. I can't seem to do right for wrong.

Because of all this, and so much more, I simply can't bear him to be near me.
Sex is a huge thing for him, but all this resentment, I am not a machine, and cannot just do that to keep him happy when I am so full of resentment and upset.
I also have problems with sex, it's so painful for me, that I cannot physically cope with the pain. I am under investigation at the hospital, but they are not sure what's wrong yet.
He wants to divorce ONLY because of the physical side of our relationship - That's the one and only reason he wants to end this.

I am very concerned DH's behaviour is affecting our DS.

DS is mirroring his dad.
Instances - He will say he doesn't want his photo taking, he doesn't like this, doesn't want to do that - All of this is what he hears from DH. He's learning these negative behaviours from DH.

TO be fair to DH, he does take DS to his sports. I go too mainly, but it's DH's thing really.
I am the boring one who nags at DS to get his homework done, who washes his clothes, makes sure his school kit is all ready for the next day, run errands, cooks meals, etc.

I've stayed for these reasons -

  • DH says he'll fight me for custody of our DS. Whilst he won't get full custody, I don't think joint custody would suit our DS as he's a very anxious child, with slight autism / and with ADD/ADHD (he's under CAMHS for assessment). I cannot risk this for him, he wouldn't cope well. He's just started high school, so it's already a very unsettling time for him. I would NEVER keep our DS away from his dad, but I really do not think joint custody would be good for him. DH is only thinking of himself here, he's not thinking about the welfare of our child. And to be honest, in reality, it would mess with his hobby obsession too much.
  • I am more or less financially dependent on him. I've had very good jobs before, and was offered two excellent roles, but DH was very against both, as it would mean I worked in a mainly male environment. He wore me down and I gave in, and worked for him instead - It is one of my biggest mistakes, as it isolated me, and took away my financial independence.
  • He says I'll get nothing when we separate - He says I won't cope without him.
  • I do work for myself, but I don't earn enough to live on as I am governed by school hours as DH has now refused to help with drop off or pick up For a while he did the pick up, but told me at the beginning of summer he'd no longer be doing that, thereby cutting my earning potential down even further. On top of that, the old anxiety and depression which I thought were a thing of the past, have reared their ugly heads, and I've started having panic attacks again. As my job involves me driving on motorways a few times a week, I do not know how long I can carry on for. I was cutting back to try to get back to full health, but I won't earn anything then, and DH most definitely won't help me.

There's so much more, but I think you get the picture.

AIBU re this? Or has he worn me down so much I really think I deserve this?
I just do not know any more.

Believe it or not, before I met DH, I had a successful career, my own house and car, and was super independent.
Right now, I am scared to death wondering what the future holds.

Thanks for reading, if you've made it this far. I do appreciate it.

OP posts:
billy1966 · 11/09/2023 20:35

I can stress enough to you how much trouble he could be in.

He used your money, insisted you work for him, controls all the money, emotionally and physically abuses you?

The police will take this very seriously.

Stress to the police how abusive he is.

Stress how afraid of him you are.

I think you need to be very careful.

He is such a vile man, you need to stress how afraid of what he is capable of.

Setting up your own bank account asap, if you don't have one.

I agree with clearing out the joint account after you report him to the police.

Could you afford a short term rental or ask the solicitor and police about having HIM removed from the home via an occupation order.

We really are here for you.
You can do this.

Phobiaphobic · 11/09/2023 20:44

Good luck, OP. You can do this x

Hufflemuff · 11/09/2023 20:46

Fuck him off.

He's saying he will fight for custody because he wants to intimidate you. However hes not even prepared to help with school runs - so why would 50/50 custody work? He would also be furious about missing out on golf tournaments at the weekends. Sad to say that he sounds like he will let you have 100% custody and only dip in and out when he's not playing golf.

If he doesn't give you any money now - divorce him and get half!! You can prove you turned down 2 good paying jobs because that was negotiated in your marriage- so he needs to compensate you in the divorce for turning down this opportunity to earn. My boss pays his ex £1000 a month just in spousal maintenance. This is in addition to the 50% of house and assets plus money for their kids. When they were married they agreed she would stay home with kids - so her lack of career for 15 years needed to be financially compensated in the settlement - hence the £1,000 a month. Aside from that you will get child support for your son too.

I know school holidays seem impossible - but there might be a job you can do for 9-2.30 during school time and then having annual leave/unpaid leave mix during the school hols. Also get DH to use 50% of his annual leave to have his son! Though he's probably too much of a dick to do that without a fight.

Sureaseggs44 · 11/09/2023 20:49

I know you are quite rightly thinking of your son , but he needs his real mum back . That mum that was strong and independent and not walking on eggshells every minute of the day . That will mean more than anything .

Clarinetiu · 11/09/2023 20:50

No 1 and I mean right away go and find out if you own half the company on companies house. If hE is paying dividends in your name I assume you are at least a director.

if so it’s time to get your ownership locked down before anything happens in your relationship.

i have been involved in 10s of divorces of small limited company contractors where ownership is very interesting.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 11/09/2023 20:55

Everyone has already given great advice. Especially the we only get one life, and your son who is awaiting camhs will be better off in a home(s) without this unhappy relationship.

I also agree he's unlikely to go for 50/50 custody- how will he go to golf and do school pick ups?

You'd be entitled to half of his assets as a divorcee - you'd be better off in every single way leaving him.

I agree to open your own bank account and transfer as much as you can from the joint account into your own account on the day that you leave/file for divorce. You will need to squirrel some money aside first to pay your solicitor but I hope your small income can cover that?

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 11/09/2023 20:56

Clarinetiu · 11/09/2023 20:50

No 1 and I mean right away go and find out if you own half the company on companies house. If hE is paying dividends in your name I assume you are at least a director.

if so it’s time to get your ownership locked down before anything happens in your relationship.

i have been involved in 10s of divorces of small limited company contractors where ownership is very interesting.

Such a helpful point

whynotwhatknot · 11/09/2023 20:56

he wont bother with custody like pp have said how will he play golf if hes got ds

sorry if i missed ds age but the courts will take into account what the child wants from about 11 they wont automatically say you have to live with your father

Chickenkeev · 11/09/2023 20:57

You're not weak at all OP, but you've taken your eye off the ball (while looking after DC). He's taking advantage of that. Get that divorce, run as far and fast as you can. He is not a nice person unfortunately.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 11/09/2023 20:58

It's so fortunate that you're married so you have financial rights here.

My ex treated me in a similar when when I was pregnant- we went married and he earns a low salary so financial support is v limited

Snds43 · 11/09/2023 21:01

Op i've been in your shoes. Your story is very similar to my own down to dc on the spectrum and money that i should receive, but never see..

Its not easy to leave, and the process is horrendous. I've been living apart from ex now for 6 months, and even though the divorce proceedings are far from over, it is so much better already. I've lost weight, i smile, i laugh, im calmer, my career has taken off etc etc..

He has tried everything he could to make me suffer. Tried to ruin me financially, ruin my career, my friendships, trespassed into my home, denied access to all our family photos of dc as babies etc..

What im saying is that it WILL be worth it. You get to be yourself again. You get to dream and look forward to the future. You dont have to walk on egg shells. You get to live by Your values.

Be careful and do it slowly. Make him think he really also wants the divorce and that you can not make him happy. Men like this can get dangerous if challenged and that's the last thing you want.

My ex went and got the divorce papers himself after i told him i could not have sex with him anymore. He sent the papers off. He hates me. If i point out any of his wrongdoings, the look in his eyes is so scary. He also takes it out on the dc if ive annoyed him, so i try to keep neutral. If he can keep his image of a good guy, he's Ok with the dc..

The saying 'best revenge is life lived well is so true. Im happier, calmer, financially getting there, saving up for a holiday with dc. Whilst he is grumpy, moody, looking stressed out, always swiping on Tinder..

Snds43 · 11/09/2023 21:07

Oh and the custody.. My ex also maintains he wants 50/50, but i doubt he is selfless enough to go through with it. He likes the easy way, not the boring parenting bits and limitations. Let him threaten. Just stay calm and don't put any weight on his words.

b0zza1 · 11/09/2023 21:12

Try to take advice from people who have been in this situation. Make plans for a safe exit if you can leave. Call this helpline and speak to them asap.https://survivingeconomicabuse.org/what-we-do/financial-support-line/

My son (7yrs) is ADHD and going for Asd diagnosis. He has been more settled since separating and we have roughly 50/50 care. What is important is the pattern and the handovers.

I think it's highly likely that he'll fight tooth and nail for 50/50 in order to not have to pay you maintenance and also because he is controlling. However it is better for your son to have 50 per cent good like with a mother who is not being abused, than 100 with a mother who is experiencing abuse. Also your h won't let the golf stop him going for custody as he will just organise other childcare for him that isn't you.

Is there an abuse forum on Mumsnet? I found community was the single most helpful thing for me.

Financial Support Line - Surviving Economic Abuse

The Financial Support Line empowers people who have experienced or are experiencing abuse to regain control of their finances.

https://survivingeconomicabuse.org/what-we-do/financial-support-line

PickAChew · 11/09/2023 21:14

For all his bluster, he isn't going to let his golf time be interrupted by having to care for your DS.

GreyRockChick · 11/09/2023 21:24

I stopped reading at "he's only hit me once". Once is one too many times. I'm so sorry that you and your DS are living this way, you deserve so much better.

Please leave. Take your DS and run as fast as you can.

Tangelablue · 11/09/2023 21:26

You have left once before, you can do it again. Your son needs a calm happy environment. Living in a hostile, tense environment could be the reason he is very anxious. It is unlikely your husband will want a full residency order but he may go through the family courts to continue to try to exercise control over your lives. Hopefully he will continue to put his efforts into golf and will leave you both to heal. You will be much better off divorced from him.

jazzhands84 · 11/09/2023 21:32

On top of that, the old anxiety and depression which I thought were a thing of the past, have reared their ugly heads, and I've started having panic attacks again.

Bet you a few quid that the anxiety and depression lift when you're out of this situation

fetchacloth · 11/09/2023 21:37

Don't delay. Get a good divorce lawyer and just do it.
He's only hit you once, we'll that's once too often 😒 and the emotional abuse is totally unacceptable.
You've got way more rights than you think you have 🙂.
He's a controlling abuser that's about to get his comeuppance.
Good luck 💐

Zanatdy · 11/09/2023 21:39

OP this sounds like an awful existence. He won’t want 50% custody more than a couple of weeks to get to you. Plus your child is secondary age, if he doesn’t like the way dad is treating him he won’t want to go and no court will force a child of that age to go. Totally agree with showing your child that this isn’t what good relationships look like and you can explain why you’ve left and how it’s wrong to treat someone a certain way etc. You’re not weak at all, you have just been worn down by this man for years. Speak to a solicitor and a counsellor if you can and walk away and don’t look back. You’ll be entitled to a decent settlement and you can start your life afresh. Good luck OP

sandgrown · 11/09/2023 21:42

My son has ADHD with traits of autism but has improved so much since I left the toxic relationship with his dad . The only difference to your situation was I was the higher earner . We are financially worse off but so
much happier. Get legal advice and plan your escape x

BadHairBae · 11/09/2023 21:43

Well done for opening up, OP. That must have been tough.

I'll be back later, but like PP have mentioned, get yourself ready for a chat with a solicitor. Gather as much information/funds as possible.

Please remember, you're married, you will not be left with nothing. Far, far from. If DH truly thinks that, he's a fool. Fight him for every last penny.

Fairymcclary · 11/09/2023 21:50

Go into companies house and enter his business name. Look at every document listed. It may show you the tax paid by the business in the latest year. If you are a director request a copy of the accounts from the accountant. Call HMRC and get your SA302 and tax year overview for the last 5 years. You should get this every year from the accountant. You should check it’s correct. If you can see your shareholding on companies house then with your SA302 you can work out how much he earns. Also his salary may well be listed on the returns on companies house (directors remuneration).

Fairymcclary · 11/09/2023 21:50

Onto not into

billy1966 · 11/09/2023 21:51

OP, quietly gather sentimental bits, photos, things that the prick might destroy to wound you.

Get them out of the house.

Reach out to any friends you have and ask them to take a couple of boxes or bags of bits, that he will not miss.

Fairymcclary · 11/09/2023 21:51

Mr greedy will call you a money grabber if you take 5p and a packet of wine gums or your fair share. So take every single penny you are entitled to, every penny. He is not reasonable , he will not suddenly become reasonable

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