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To have walked out the car dealership after this blatant rudeness, perhaps sexism?

719 replies

Sorentolove · 09/09/2023 23:05

DH and I went to upgrade our shared family car (I drive it 80% of the time) at the local dealership.

The car was purchased 4 years ago at another (same brand) dealership and we're coming to the end of the Lease.

It was purchased under his name, this one will be purchased under my name.

The appointment was made in his name.

We arrived slightly ahead of time and we're greeted pleasantly, offered coffees and waited for the staff member. Another pleasant staff member passed by and had a brief chat with us both.

Our fellow came up to us at the wait area introduced himself to my DH, shook his hand, and started talking about the car we'd expressed an interest in.

Rather taken aback at being ignored, I stood up, offered my hand and introduced myself as Mrs SLove.

He shook my hand and guided us to his desk where we talked for a couple of minutes about the car, then he said he'd get the keys and then show us the vehicle.

DH and I looked at each other and we saw we were on the same page that this branch did not deserve our money and we decided to leave.

I caught the manager's eye on the way out and explained our disappointment.

He was furious and tried to convince us to stay, even stopping us as we were driving off the car park. We were resolute though, and they lost a sale.

Wwbu?

OP posts:
luckylavender · 10/09/2023 17:33

You seem a bit precious. How on earth do you expect to be served by a mind reader? The last car was in your husband's name & he made the appointment. Also you weren't purchasing a car, you were leasing it.

sunglassesonthetable · 10/09/2023 17:34

Also you weren't purchasing a car, you were leasing it.

🤦‍♀️

PleaseGiveMeBackMySummer · 10/09/2023 17:36

ihadamarveloustime · 10/09/2023 11:28

You can bet also, that the 'why did you take your husband's surname' brigade are ALL single/unmarried!

Nope. Married, kept my own name, do ask the question of friends who have expressed unhappiness at changing their names upon marriage.

Contrary to all the fluff on here from the 'keep your maiden name' brigade, the vast VAST majority of women don't give a flying fuck about changing their surname to their husband's. Indeed many women are more than happy to. It's only in the parallel world of Mumsnet that women are derided for changing their surname to their husband's on marriage. (And where posters claim all the married women they know are soooooo unhappy they changed their surname!!!)

Some proper batshit posts on here from the 'keep your maiden name' brigade, from what are clearly mostly VERY single women. Wink Don't deny it. Grin

PMSL at how angry it makes the 'keep your maiden name' brigade that most women change their surname to their husband's. So many 'feminists' on here who are sooooo offended that other women have the temerity to not do what THEY WANT them to do! Shock And OMG, actually be HAPPY with it! 😱

Anyone on here who thinks women are dragged kicking and screaming, to make them change their surname is utterly deluded. LOL get a grip! Most women don't give a shit! 😆

luckylavender · 10/09/2023 17:37

topnoddy · 10/09/2023 07:29

But a lease isn't a sale is it ?

This. OP trying to big herself up.

luckylavender · 10/09/2023 17:39

pollyroo · 10/09/2023 08:38

Total overreaction to a non issue Blush

Yes. Yes I bet they were soooo upset they lost your sale Hmm

It wasn't a sale. A lease.

HarrietJet · 10/09/2023 17:39

luckylavender · 10/09/2023 17:37

This. OP trying to big herself up.

Oh dear... 😂

HarrietJet · 10/09/2023 17:41

sunglassesonthetable · 10/09/2023 17:34

Also you weren't purchasing a car, you were leasing it.

🤦‍♀️

Why the face? You've banged on about the sales guy losing his sale for long enough, God knows.

Walkaround · 10/09/2023 17:50

PleaseGiveMeBackMySummer · 10/09/2023 17:36

Contrary to all the fluff on here from the 'keep your maiden name' brigade, the vast VAST majority of women don't give a flying fuck about changing their surname to their husband's. Indeed many women are more than happy to. It's only in the parallel world of Mumsnet that women are derided for changing their surname to their husband's on marriage. (And where posters claim all the married women they know are soooooo unhappy they changed their surname!!!)

Some proper batshit posts on here from the 'keep your maiden name' brigade, from what are clearly mostly VERY single women. Wink Don't deny it. Grin

PMSL at how angry it makes the 'keep your maiden name' brigade that most women change their surname to their husband's. So many 'feminists' on here who are sooooo offended that other women have the temerity to not do what THEY WANT them to do! Shock And OMG, actually be HAPPY with it! 😱

Anyone on here who thinks women are dragged kicking and screaming, to make them change their surname is utterly deluded. LOL get a grip! Most women don't give a shit! 😆

It is true, however, that far fewer men are happy to change their surname than women (unless they dislike their surname - then, ime, they are perfectly happy to change it).

I have always wondered, though, what logic guides people’s choice of their children’s surnames if they want to go against convention; and what happens with future surnames of their offspring and offsprings’ offspring - eg if two people with double-barrelled surnames (from mother’s and father’s side) get together. What surnames do they give their children? And do they quadruple-barrell their own surnames, keep different double-barrelled surnames, or choose a random one or two of the surnames on offer and keep a long list of what they now see as middle names? Or make a whole new name up and scrap the rest?

AliceOlive · 10/09/2023 18:10

luckylavender · 10/09/2023 17:39

It wasn't a sale. A lease.

Oh do sales people and dealers not make money on leases?

Americano75 · 10/09/2023 18:25

Sorentolove · 09/09/2023 23:17

And then if they ignore my husband?

Which, of course, they wouldn't.

whatsappdoc · 10/09/2023 18:28

Actually the vast majority of us who think changing your surname is a bit subservient never use the term 'maiden name'.

sandyhappypeople · 10/09/2023 18:30

CallumDansTransitVan · 10/09/2023 17:27

Not sure it is as much sexism as a shit salesman. I've been in vehicle sales for around 25 Years and I learned long ago to include both parties in a couple in the discussion. Anyone making the second biggest purchase they make in life will discuss it.

I've now got a number of returnng customers because of the approach of treating men and women as equals and not going down the pushy salesman routine. The customer may not buy that day, but next week you may have the very car they want, and they remember if they are treated decently and will also tell their friends.

It would be interesting to get your opinion on this if you wouldn’t mind?

if you were expecting a customer, previous customer to the garage, and it this meeting was booked under his name, when you approach them in the waiting room and the man stands up to greet you, you obviously shake hands and introduce yourself, if there was a woman sat down next to/behind him, would you offer your hand to her to shake?

Op seems to be annoyed that he didn’t offer his hand or greet her specifically, him and hubby just got caught up chatting about the car straight away.

he spoke to them as equals throughout the rest of the exchange once he knew who she was, she had no complaint about that, it was the few seconds when he came over.

I personally think hubby should have introduced her as he greeted salesman, or she should have stood up at the same time, what do you think?

Thatladdo · 10/09/2023 18:36

AliceOlive · 10/09/2023 18:10

Oh do sales people and dealers not make money on leases?

Noware near as much, neither does the company.
Essentialy selling a financial product they receive a small commission
Thats why they will either try to shift a pre reg car or a less desirable model / spec they are stuck with.
Not comparable to an actual sale.

Certainly not for bragging rights!
You havent bought a car, youve taken out finance to hire one you couldnt actualy afford to buy - usualy to look like johnny ( or janet! ) big cigar 🙄😆

AliceOlive · 10/09/2023 18:43

Thatladdo · 10/09/2023 18:36

Noware near as much, neither does the company.
Essentialy selling a financial product they receive a small commission
Thats why they will either try to shift a pre reg car or a less desirable model / spec they are stuck with.
Not comparable to an actual sale.

Certainly not for bragging rights!
You havent bought a car, youve taken out finance to hire one you couldnt actualy afford to buy - usualy to look like johnny ( or janet! ) big cigar 🙄😆

This just sounds ridiculous. Plenty of people have reasons for leasing cars that don't involve trying to look better to others. In fact, the highest earner our of our friends (easily $500K annually after bonus) always leases his cars because he has the money to throw away.

sunglassesonthetable · 10/09/2023 18:47

What the actual?

Salesman trying to sell something.

All this oneup man ship of "it's a sale! No it's a lease " Can't even unpick the snobbery/inverse snobbery here. Who cares?

Don't actually care.

sunglassesonthetable · 10/09/2023 18:48

Why the face? You've banged on about the sales guy losing his sale for long enough, God knows.

Harriet champ , no hobbies?

sunglassesonthetable · 10/09/2023 18:53

You havent bought a car, youve taken out finance to hire one you couldnt actualy afford to buy - usualy to look like johnny ( or janet! ) big cigar 🙄😆

Well this has taken a turn.

Like how irrelevant.

TaiDee · 10/09/2023 18:55

OP’s DH should have introduced OP, and/or OP should also have stood up to greet the salesman. Either of these basic social norms would have let the salesman know that both were attending the appointment.

Hawkins0009 · 10/09/2023 18:58

Sorentolove · 09/09/2023 23:17

And then if they ignore my husband?

what if you put both your names on the list ?

HarrietJet · 10/09/2023 19:01

sunglassesonthetable · 10/09/2023 18:47

What the actual?

Salesman trying to sell something.

All this oneup man ship of "it's a sale! No it's a lease " Can't even unpick the snobbery/inverse snobbery here. Who cares?

Don't actually care.

Don't actually care
Why bother commenting?
And op gloating about his lost sale as though she'd gone there with 60 grand bursting out of a suitcase instead of looking to sign a lease does make it kind of sad relevant.

HarrietJet · 10/09/2023 19:02

Hawkins0009 · 10/09/2023 18:58

what if you put both your names on the list ?

That would certainly be the normal thing to do.

AliceOlive · 10/09/2023 19:04

sunglassesonthetable · 10/09/2023 18:47

What the actual?

Salesman trying to sell something.

All this oneup man ship of "it's a sale! No it's a lease " Can't even unpick the snobbery/inverse snobbery here. Who cares?

Don't actually care.

Totally don't care. The dealership still sells the car - just to a financing company rather than directly to the OP. They still lose the money.

sunglassesonthetable · 10/09/2023 19:08

Why bother commenting?
And op gloating about his lost sale as though she'd gone there with 60 grand bursting out of a suitcase instead of looking to sign a lease does make it kind of sad relevant.

OK @HarrietJet

I don't give a flying F whether OP has gone into buy a ( sharp intake of breath) Lease or make an outright Sale on a Car. Both seem to take shedloads of F money imho, however much the sales person makes out of it.

If I think the sales person is giving poor service, like OP he isn't getting my sale. I'll go where I feel comfortable.

And presumably as it's like an actual part of his job, it's worth making the actual sale sale /lease sale.

Love how bad service is acceptable for a lease sale but not a sale sale.

HarrietJet · 10/09/2023 19:11

Love how bad service is acceptable for a lease sale but not a sale sale
It's not; not remotely.
We just don't agree that op sitting like a lump whilst her dh stood up and introduced himself leading to the salesman not intuiting who she was, equals bad service.

sunglassesonthetable · 10/09/2023 19:11

Did not realise there was all this judgement for a leased car.

Like how ridiculous of OP to expect the same standards.

It's a lease not a sale!