WEF - Conspiracy Theory?

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Every so often, someone in comments will mention the WEF and a torrent of responses follows; memes of tinfoil hat-wearers, insults etc.

I'm very interested in politics; I read around all of the papers, news sites etc.
From what I understand there are valid reasons for people to be concerned about the WEF. I want to post some FACTS, along with sources, about the WEF and then I would love to hear what other people think. If I am a "conspiracy nut" for having concerns and thinking the public should know much more about this then please enlighten me.

The WEF exists. Here is its website.
The World Economic Forum (weforum.org)
It holds meetings at Davos each year. Members consist of politicians, owners of corporations & social media and others.
The WEF was created by Klaus Schwab. He is the Chairman of the WEF.
Klaus Schwab - Wikipedia
He wrote a book called Covid 19, the Great Reset. It is currently available on Amazon. I have read it. It calls for the opportunity which has arisen through the pandemic to be used to change the way the world is run, bringing in a system of "stakeholder capitalism". In this system, democracy becomes of lesser importance and decisions are taken by corporations in conjunction with the UN.
You can read a more complex explanation here:
Conspiracy theories aside, there is something fishy about the Great Reset - resilience
The WEF have a programme of "Young Global Leaders". You can read about them here on the WEF's own site:
What are Young Global Leaders and what impact can they have? | World Economic Forum (weforum.org)
Young global leaders have included Angela Merkel, Tony Blair, Emanuel Macron, Jacinda Ardern, Justin Trudeau and many more.
In 2017 Klaus Schwab stated on video that the WEF had "penetrated the Cabinets" of governments around the world and that over half of Canada's Government, including Trudeau were Young Global Leaders.

(1:08:30) You can see MP's profiles on the WEF website by searching their name followed by WEF. Some are there. Some are not. Sunak and Starmer are both listed. Starmer is on video saying he prefers Davos to Westminster. The WEF Wikepedia page states: In May 2020, the WEF and the Prince of Wales's Sustainable Markets Initiative launched "The Great Reset" project, a five-point plan to enhance sustainable economic growth following the global recession caused by the COVID-19 pandemic lockdowns.[128] "The Great Reset" was to be the theme of WEF's annual meeting in August 2021. The forum defines the system that it wants to create as "Stakeholder Capitalism". The Transnational Institute describes the World Economic Forum's main purpose as being "to function as a socializing institution for the emerging global elite, globalization's "Mafiocracy" of bankers, industrialists, oligarchs, technocrats and politicians. They promote common ideas, and serve common interests: their own." According to the European Parliament's think tank, critics see the WEF as an instrument for political and business leaders to "take decisions without having to account to their electorate or shareholders".[163] Since 2009, the WEF has been working on a project called the Global Redesign Initiative (GRI), which proposes a transition away from intergovernmental decision-making towards a system of multi-stakeholder governance. According to the Transnational Institute (TNI), the Forum is hence planning to replace a recognised democratic model with a model where a self-selected group of "stakeholders" make decisions on behalf of the people.

I could go on (I realise I already have 🙂) but I'm saying I don't remember any of us being consulted about having democracy taken away so we could be ruled by corporations. This is not about anti-vaxx, lizard people or anything else. As far as I can see this is a very serious affront to our freedom and democracy. AIBU?

Could anyone who is saying I am being unreasonable please explain why?

I don't remember any of us being consulted about having democracy taken away so we could be ruled by corporations.

What democracy have you lost? There's been one recent vote to change the democratic process in the UK, but it was voted down.

@KrisAkabusi Have you read the articles on the links I posted? The WEF would like to move towards a "stakeholder capitalism" form of Government where big corporations make decisions and individual Governments are consulted but no longer have the final say. Their Young Global Leaders are also, in Schwab's words, "penetrating the cabinets" of Governments around the world.

You’re getting / have been sucked in by a mad conspiracy theory. Rescue yourself before everyone you know deserts you for being a nutter.

I was travelling at the weekend. There was some graffiti on a poster in the service station loos:"The WEF, WHO and EU want to control you! Resist the Great Reset! Use cash only!There are millions of us resisting, join us!"

Ooookay.

Yup. And all of us who doubted were called conspiracy theorists.

This ^

Yes, these are the sort of responses I see every time which is why I created this post. But no counter-argument. Are you saying the WEF doesn't exist? That the people I mentioned are not Young Global Leaders? That the WEF do not wish to implement a global Government of "stakeholder capitalism"? Because it is all there for you to read on their own website.

I mean I even posted a video of Klaus Schwab saying it for you to watch to make it easy for you! 🙂

It's lazy to call everything a conspiracy theory. They're not hiding their intentions.

The sort of people who think the WEF, the Great Reset etc. are operating some sort sinister takeover are usually the same people who said lockdown would last forever and the vaccinated would be dead within a year.

The WEF would like to move towards a "stakeholder capitalism" form of Government where big corporations make decisions and individual Governments are consulted but no longer have the final say.

How exactly do you see this happening? What decisions within the UK do you think global corporations are/ will make, without the agreement of the government?

Or are you saying that the government only exists to serve interests of a small group? I think this has been the case in this country for most of its history.

So not a conspiracy then?

The more important book is the one he wrote in 2016. I didn't finish it because it was so depressing. One of my mates working in tech said to me "but you are already living the 4th Industrial revolution".

he has me down as being like an 80+ person for hating tech. A lady from the council said that to me as well, re some objections to a planning application.

casual ageism.

but yes, for the people who think it's recent, it's not, you can find speeches made by UK politicians going back years.

all the tech workers I know think that the HCI factor will be priorotised as time goes on but atm tech mostly makes life harder rather than easier.

I just think it's a great excuse to give us all individual ID codes etc under the guise of making things easier.

and it really chaps my ass that only now, in 2023, I have family members worrying about the demise of cash and closure of bank branches. I warned them about this bloody years ago!

what any of this tech development has to do with conspiracy, I really don't know.

conspiracy
/kənˈspɪrəsi/
noun
a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.

@IClaudine I'm not that sort of person at all. Although I can see how conspiracy theorists could make up wild accusations, everything I have stated is referenced and sourced so did you read it? It doesn't look like it.

You are it wrong OP. But the enlightened like to think that any view that opposes their own makes everyone else a conspiracy theorist.

People refuse to accept that our economy is being run in a certain way where without the lobbying and influence of large players, not thing happens. Nothing at all. Let’s take a few examples.

Iraq war was a payday for big defence. The infamous weapons of mass destruction did not exist and the Middle East has seen 0 benefit from interventions. Who won? Big defence. The US spends nearly a $1 trillion on defence a year. Defence against what? The UK, while a smaller player, pledges to spend 2% of GDP on defence? Against what? War is big business.

Financial crash. Larry Summers the US treasury chief who turned a blind eye to reckless mortgage securities was the ex chief of Citi bank. He was warned about was coming, but he accelerated the recklessness under his watch in government. We all know what happened next. And who won? The banks. And try have continued to win since 2008 as government printed trillions and just gave it out to banks as free money.

Covid. The decision to lock up healthy people was completely unnecessary and used as a lever to print and borrow further trillions so it could make its way through the system to into corrupt government handouts. And let’s not forget the biggest payout for the big Pharma in a hundred years. Who won? Anyone close to government who could get a contract.

Ukraine war. Well why should big energy lose out. It’s their turn. Been a while since they cashed in. Everyone needs a go on the gravy train. After all, the progressives tell us that we need to create a fair and equitable society.

Next? If you’re not already, invest what you have in the ‘green’ initiatives. Everyone is being forced and taxed by stealth to fund this next gravy train.

The enlightened and clever people going around shouting ‘conspiracy theorist’ at everyone fail to realize that anyone not part of this racket is paying taxes through the nose and having trillions borrowed in their name for it to be siphoned by those who create these crises.

Follow they money.

Honestly OP posts like this were taken down in 2020 so I don't expect the thread to last. Despite the fact you can watch livestreams of WEF seminars, for some reason you're not allowed to say that on MN.

The WEF may want/think things are a good idea, so what? They have no power, they have members who probably couldn't agree with each other about what's for lunch. Every member has their own agenda and loyalty. Young Global Leaders are just that young rising politicians from various countries, far more interested in their own rise to power (or not) in their own countries than what the WEF want. Can you imagine Putin, Biden (or worse Trump), Sunak and all the other world leaders sitting around a table and all agreeing to do what the WEF want? I can't.

@wutheringkites It is already happening to an extent at Davos each year. The biggest corporations, social media owners, MP's etc. meet and work towards the Global Redesign Initiative. Look it up.

It's just a talking shop, they may have some good ideas, they may have crap ideas, but they have no power to implement any of them.

So what specific decisions have they made that you think should have been under the control of the UK government?

@plumtreebroke New York, USA, 13 June 2019 – The World Economic Forum and the United Nations signed today a Strategic Partnership Framework outlining areas of cooperation to deepen institutional engagement and jointly accelerate the implementation of the 2030 Agenda.

@plumtreebroke No it's not. They have their Young Global Leaders in our Governments. They are working together with the UN.

@wutheringkites I don't want corporations making any decisions at all about our Government. That is why we have a vote.