WEF - Conspiracy Theory?

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Every so often, someone in comments will mention the WEF and a torrent of responses follows; memes of tinfoil hat-wearers, insults etc.

I'm very interested in politics; I read around all of the papers, news sites etc.
From what I understand there are valid reasons for people to be concerned about the WEF. I want to post some FACTS, along with sources, about the WEF and then I would love to hear what other people think. If I am a "conspiracy nut" for having concerns and thinking the public should know much more about this then please enlighten me.

The WEF exists. Here is its website.
The World Economic Forum (weforum.org)
It holds meetings at Davos each year. Members consist of politicians, owners of corporations & social media and others.
The WEF was created by Klaus Schwab. He is the Chairman of the WEF.
Klaus Schwab - Wikipedia
He wrote a book called Covid 19, the Great Reset. It is currently available on Amazon. I have read it. It calls for the opportunity which has arisen through the pandemic to be used to change the way the world is run, bringing in a system of "stakeholder capitalism". In this system, democracy becomes of lesser importance and decisions are taken by corporations in conjunction with the UN.
You can read a more complex explanation here:
Conspiracy theories aside, there is something fishy about the Great Reset - resilience
The WEF have a programme of "Young Global Leaders". You can read about them here on the WEF's own site:
What are Young Global Leaders and what impact can they have? | World Economic Forum (weforum.org)
Young global leaders have included Angela Merkel, Tony Blair, Emanuel Macron, Jacinda Ardern, Justin Trudeau and many more.
In 2017 Klaus Schwab stated on video that the WEF had "penetrated the Cabinets" of governments around the world and that over half of Canada's Government, including Trudeau were Young Global Leaders.

(1:08:30) You can see MP's profiles on the WEF website by searching their name followed by WEF. Some are there. Some are not. Sunak and Starmer are both listed. Starmer is on video saying he prefers Davos to Westminster. The WEF Wikepedia page states: In May 2020, the WEF and the Prince of Wales's Sustainable Markets Initiative launched "The Great Reset" project, a five-point plan to enhance sustainable economic growth following the global recession caused by the COVID-19 pandemic lockdowns.[128] "The Great Reset" was to be the theme of WEF's annual meeting in August 2021. The forum defines the system that it wants to create as "Stakeholder Capitalism". The Transnational Institute describes the World Economic Forum's main purpose as being "to function as a socializing institution for the emerging global elite, globalization's "Mafiocracy" of bankers, industrialists, oligarchs, technocrats and politicians. They promote common ideas, and serve common interests: their own." According to the European Parliament's think tank, critics see the WEF as an instrument for political and business leaders to "take decisions without having to account to their electorate or shareholders".[163] Since 2009, the WEF has been working on a project called the Global Redesign Initiative (GRI), which proposes a transition away from intergovernmental decision-making towards a system of multi-stakeholder governance. According to the Transnational Institute (TNI), the Forum is hence planning to replace a recognised democratic model with a model where a self-selected group of "stakeholders" make decisions on behalf of the people.

I could go on (I realise I already have 🙂) but I'm saying I don't remember any of us being consulted about having democracy taken away so we could be ruled by corporations. This is not about anti-vaxx, lizard people or anything else. As far as I can see this is a very serious affront to our freedom and democracy. AIBU?

@DontLeanOnTheKeyboard I never once mentioned ID. And can't you see that the awful things that are happening right now are partly BECAUSE of this and that's why I am concerned. Our MP's are going to Davos and being lobbied by corporations, energy companies and the rest and then come back and start siphoning off the people's money to their mates who are also "in the club".

Stakeholder usually means that those who have an interest in something, e.g. a process has a say in how it operates. SI stakeholder capitalism should mean workers, consumers, managers, owners all have a say. Are you sure your interpreting WEF correctly, as what you are describing -a narrow base of decision makers - is the opposite of stakeholder.

How long have you spent looking into it? Or are you 'one of those' who doesn't bother to learn about something before they make a decision. Pfftt

Jeez, just listen to yourself! “In the club”. What do you think the aim of this “club” is???

I’m usually a Labour voter but I find it shocking that Starmer thinks saying Davao beats Westminster is a good idea is insane. A lobbying organisation for mega corporations beats a national democracy? Cool.

Starmer is a wrongun - but of course Sunak is identical. The idea that one is “Conservative” and one is “Labour” is absurd. Two neoliberal “everyone as you were” let’s protect the status quo at all costs merchants.

@KrisAkabusi So are you aware of stakeholder capitalism, the Global Redesign Initiative and the WEF/UN agreement? Because if you are, well done. And if you want that, fine. But I don't believe others are aware that this is happening. And that is wrong.

Op mumsnet is well known for its tendency to attract mindless idiots.
I can understand people doubting things like the royal family are lizards but to flat out ignore a very very plausible theory that isn't even a theory anymore is just insanity at this point.
You would think after EVERYTHING people have been through in the last 3 years that everybody would have woken up by now.

Sadly that are clearly still many brainless mums out there who think the people higher up actually care about them. They must lead such sheltered lives.
I've been reading about this for over a decade and slowly but surely everything predicted has come true.

Governments have been powered by industry for a very long time. Corporation, income and other business taxes are the governments income, therefore it is in the govts interest to ensure that businesses are profitable and keep employing people. I'm not sure why this would be unusual?

I think the majority of governments are too chaotic, short-termist and backstabbing to perform a reliable “global conspiracy”. On the other hand, I think there’s enough evidence that while governments couldn’t manage it, those who move in high circles understand that big money and untouchable security comes from manipulating laws and finances across the globe to the effect that corporations are increasingly gaining more rights than people in Europe, America, and China.

Those who own and run those corporations lobby government to ensure laws go their way - why otherwise would we still be allowing or reliant on fracking, oil, data hoarding by big tech and a Western trend of endless wars and increased wealth gap? It doesn’t benefit 99% of the people, so it doesn’t suggest democracy is working that well, does it?

The word “conspiracy” freaks most sane people out, and any sort of global semi-mysterious organisation feels like depths-of-Reddit-stuff, but the reality is that the super-wealthy want to stay that way, and understand the efficient mechanisms to make it happen. People are generally ok, but global systems right now are fucking it for the vast, vast majority.

@anotherside You have hit the nail on the head there. It's so demoralising seeing the hopeful young people thinking that voting for Labour is going to turn things around when they are part of the same cabal. We need to kick the lot out and get some honest, decent people who actually care about this country into power.

Trying to keep up with everyone's comments but I know I've missed a few. I'm so glad I posted this and even if you disagree with me thank you for enagaging.

@Custardcreamking Power. Money.

@Custardcreamking Jesus Christ you're not the sharpest tool in the box are you.
Money

@Moanranger The problem is some of the stakeholders are corporations. This is the crux of it. So instead of our Governments being sovereign and being able to say no to any initiative or law, our Government is going to become just one in a group of "stakeholders" which includes huge businesses and oligarchs. This is a dilution of our democracy, yet it can all be done with us still going to "vote" every 4 years to amke it look legit.

This already happens. Government meet with business all the time and they exert influence on planned policy.

I work for an investment bank. I can see if you are skint all the time it’s easy to imagine that the likes of investment banks are obsessed with money and greed and grabbing as much as they can for themselves, but bloody hell they don’t work like that. You’re thick if you cannot see that.

Support the lizard people

Both Blair and Merkel are now out of government.

During their tenure, what policies did they enact - and get voted through their respective lower and upper houses - which you feel were not democratically mandated and which were unduly influenced by WEF ?

@Goldmember Agree; the difference is they want to move to a situation where they are not lobbying any more but have equal decision-making powers with our Government.

Brexit was meant (allegedly) to make us ‘Sovereign’. Well, what a shitshow that has turned out, such a shock.

There words mean nothing, everything you’re saying is already happening, you’re acting like you’ve found a sinister backstory, when the story is in all our faces every day. We KNOW the super rich control everything. Have you had a gas or electric bill lately?!

Wow. Do you not believe in climate change either?

And how is that going to come about? The UK is an outlier in not having a written constitution, but most countries do. And do you think that those countries will change theirs to give corporations political power? How would it even work? You vote in a rule that says Coke is at the cabinet table now, but if their shares rise they get replaced by the boss of Pepsi? Can you not see how absurd this line of thinking is?

@hopeishere But our Government is still notionally sovereign so we can vote them in or out. WEF would like to bypass the democracy bit and give the corporations an EQUAL say to our Governments. Thus taking away our democratic right to say no.

Op, your issue is the word conspiracy. If you did this post explaining how the UN and WEF works and asked are people aware of the power of the TNCs and transnationalist class people would agree.

@AtlasOfBirds It's a very, very long-term process which involves a lot of global companies. It's not reliant on any one Government.

Just because they "want" to do it doesn't mean it will happen though?

@Custardcreamking You don't think the following, who are all WEF partners, are interested in money? 🙂
Johnson & Johnson JPMorgan Chase & Co. Kearney KPMG Kudelski Group Lazard Luksic Group Mahindra Group Majid Al Futtaim Holding ManpowerGroup Marsh McLennan Mastercard McKinsey & Company MSD Meta Microsoft Mitsubishi Corporation Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Morgan Stanley Nestlé Novartis Novo Nordisk Foundation Omnicom Group Palantir Technologies PayPal PepsiCo Procter & Gamble Publicis Groupe PwC Qatar Investment Authority Reliance Industries Royal Philips Salesforce SAP Saudi Basic Industries (SABIC) Schneider Electric Siemens SK Group SOCAR (State Oil Company of the Azerbaijan Republic) Standard Chartered Bank Suntory Holdings Swiss Re Takeda Pharmaceutical Tata Consultancy Services Ericsson TPG Uber Technologies UBS U...