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WEF - Conspiracy Theory?

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Lazyusername · 05/09/2023 14:28

Every so often, someone in comments will mention the WEF and a torrent of responses follows; memes of tinfoil hat-wearers, insults etc.

I'm very interested in politics; I read around all of the papers, news sites etc.
From what I understand there are valid reasons for people to be concerned about the WEF. I want to post some FACTS, along with sources, about the WEF and then I would love to hear what other people think. If I am a "conspiracy nut" for having concerns and thinking the public should know much more about this then please enlighten me.

The WEF exists. Here is its website.
The World Economic Forum (weforum.org)
It holds meetings at Davos each year. Members consist of politicians, owners of corporations & social media and others.
The WEF was created by Klaus Schwab. He is the Chairman of the WEF.
Klaus Schwab - Wikipedia
He wrote a book called Covid 19, the Great Reset. It is currently available on Amazon. I have read it. It calls for the opportunity which has arisen through the pandemic to be used to change the way the world is run, bringing in a system of "stakeholder capitalism". In this system, democracy becomes of lesser importance and decisions are taken by corporations in conjunction with the UN.
You can read a more complex explanation here:
Conspiracy theories aside, there is something fishy about the Great Reset - resilience
The WEF have a programme of "Young Global Leaders". You can read about them here on the WEF's own site:
What are Young Global Leaders and what impact can they have? | World Economic Forum (weforum.org)
Young global leaders have included Angela Merkel, Tony Blair, Emanuel Macron, Jacinda Ardern, Justin Trudeau and many more.
In 2017 Klaus Schwab stated on video that the WEF had "penetrated the Cabinets" of governments around the world and that over half of Canada's Government, including Trudeau were Young Global Leaders.

(1:08:30) You can see MP's profiles on the WEF website by searching their name followed by WEF. Some are there. Some are not. Sunak and Starmer are both listed. Starmer is on video saying he prefers Davos to Westminster. The WEF Wikepedia page states: In May 2020, the WEF and the Prince of Wales's Sustainable Markets Initiative launched "The Great Reset" project, a five-point plan to enhance sustainable economic growth following the global recession caused by the COVID-19 pandemic lockdowns.[128] "The Great Reset" was to be the theme of WEF's annual meeting in August 2021. The forum defines the system that it wants to create as "Stakeholder Capitalism". The Transnational Institute describes the World Economic Forum's main purpose as being "to function as a socializing institution for the emerging global elite, globalization's "Mafiocracy" of bankers, industrialists, oligarchs, technocrats and politicians. They promote common ideas, and serve common interests: their own." According to the European Parliament's think tank, critics see the WEF as an instrument for political and business leaders to "take decisions without having to account to their electorate or shareholders".[163] Since 2009, the WEF has been working on a project called the Global Redesign Initiative (GRI), which proposes a transition away from intergovernmental decision-making towards a system of multi-stakeholder governance. According to the Transnational Institute (TNI), the Forum is hence planning to replace a recognised democratic model with a model where a self-selected group of "stakeholders" make decisions on behalf of the people.

I could go on (I realise I already have 🙂) but I'm saying I don't remember any of us being consulted about having democracy taken away so we could be ruled by corporations. This is not about anti-vaxx, lizard people or anything else. As far as I can see this is a very serious affront to our freedom and democracy. AIBU?

The World Economic Forum

The World Economic Forum is an independent international organization committed to improving the state of the world by engaging business, political, academic and other leaders of society to shape global, regional and industry agendas. Incorporated as a...

https://www.weforum.org/

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Lazyusername · 05/09/2023 16:24

And that's just a few of them....

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Fightyouforthatpie · 05/09/2023 16:24

And what’s the big problem with everyone having ID? Unless you wish to break the law I see no problem in it.
Yeah I can't forsee any issues with letting the government run my identity for me, I mean their IT projects are renowned for their accuracy, timeliness and low costs. No-one's ever had to wait ages for say, a passport.
There haven't been any fuck ups over immigration status made by government departments, ,cough Windrush.

BaroldandNedmund · 05/09/2023 16:25

IClaudine · 05/09/2023 15:24

The sort of people who think the WEF, the Great Reset etc. are operating some sort sinister takeover are usually the same people who said lockdown would last forever and the vaccinated would be dead within a year.

Exactly….a lot of nonsense is spoken, which is very convenient, because anyone trying to make a valid point is put into the ‘conspiracy theorist nutter’ category and dismissed.

Democracy is an illusion anyway. How can there be a true democracy when there isn’t a free press? And when the proletariat is steered into voting a certain way by the media?

Darkdiamond · 05/09/2023 16:25

I agree with you OP.

AlisonDonut · 05/09/2023 16:26

Whatswhatwhichiswhich · 05/09/2023 15:55

Also, if the WEF have solutions to poverty, hunger, collapsing health care and a job market so scarce it’s practically non existent, what’s your issue with that?

What solutions?

Lazyusername · 05/09/2023 16:27

@brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr It's hard to say of course because, although many Davos meetings are reasonably public, the inner circle ones are not. I can think of policies both of them enacted which were not the choice of the people they were elected by but I would rather not go down that road right now. I've got enough on my plate answering everyone! Suffice it to say I went on the anti-Iraq-war march and I'm pretty certain the UK public were vehemently against that war.

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EmmaEmerald · 05/09/2023 16:29

plumtreebroke · 05/09/2023 15:32

It's just a talking shop, they may have some good ideas, they may have crap ideas, but they have no power to implement any of them.

Things like ULEZ always start in a talking shop. Think tanks are very influential.

Lazyusername · 05/09/2023 16:30

@BaroldandNedmund completely agree. And this is why as soon as you mention WEF people assume you are a nutcase. Believe me, I know there are a lot of nutcases around but I'm not one of them. I do like reading from loads of sources and making my own mind up though and this is what has lead me to finding things out about the WEF and our MP's that I don't like.

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Lazyusername · 05/09/2023 16:31

@Darkdiamond Thank you.

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Fightyouforthatpie · 05/09/2023 16:34

and I'm pretty certain the UK public were vehemently against that war.

Not at the time, if opinion polls are to be believed -

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2015/06/03/remembering-iraq

I was opposed to the war, I wrote to my Labour MP and he voted against - but I suspect we were a significant minority.

Memories of Iraq: did we ever support the war? | YouGov

To many British people it now feels unimaginable that we ever supported the Iraq war – but most people did

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2015/06/03/remembering-iraq

Custardcreamking · 05/09/2023 16:34

You could believe all of these ideas and go through your life terrified (although I’m telling you they are nonsense and you’ll lose all your friends and family by harping on) unable to change these vile, money grabbing multinationals, believing they want to grab everything off you and leave you with a shell of a life;

or, you could think that yes these companies probably seek to influence but we live in a democracy and things will be ok.

pull back op before you fall into the abyss.

IClaudine · 05/09/2023 16:34

Lazyusername · 05/09/2023 15:36

@wutheringkites I don't want corporations making any decisions at all about our Government. That is why we have a vote.

It already happens. Why do you think political parties court Murdoch and other press barons?

Fightyouforthatpie · 05/09/2023 16:35

I'm actually more worried by the companies doing shit and getting away with it than WEF who at least aren't hiding most of what they are up to.

AlisonDonut · 05/09/2023 16:35

OP you need to look at the WEF sustainability goals and how they play out in real life.

Lazyusername · 05/09/2023 16:36

@Fightyouforthatpie Thank you, happy to be called out on that although I don't think the Iraq war was something the British people conjured up and demanded. It may have been sold to them; that's not the same.

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IClaudine · 05/09/2023 16:37

Fightyouforthatpie · 05/09/2023 16:35

I'm actually more worried by the companies doing shit and getting away with it than WEF who at least aren't hiding most of what they are up to.

Yep. Water companies for example.

Lazyusername · 05/09/2023 16:38

@Custardcreamking No need to worry about me; I am fine! 🙂 It's people like you they rely on who will just say "I don't really want to look into it. Things will be ok."

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Fightyouforthatpie · 05/09/2023 16:38

Lazyusername · 05/09/2023 16:36

@Fightyouforthatpie Thank you, happy to be called out on that although I don't think the Iraq war was something the British people conjured up and demanded. It may have been sold to them; that's not the same.

Totally agree - and for his temerity, my MP lost his seat and we got a Tory at the next election, so a fat lot of good that did.

Charlize43 · 05/09/2023 16:38

I tend to have no interest in these things. There's little I could do anyway. Nobody is going to listen to a 56 year old woman. I can't even get a decent job (made redundant during the pandemic).

I tend to focus on enjoying life... even looking for little things to enjoy, like smiling at strangers or bagging a bargain.

All during the pandemic, my neighbour kept banging on and on about 'The Great Reset' and she seems to have shut up about it now. The only thing different about her is she changed her hairstyle and now has a tight perm.

EmmaEmerald · 05/09/2023 16:38

AlisonDonut · 05/09/2023 16:35

OP you need to look at the WEF sustainability goals and how they play out in real life.

May I ask why you feel that's worth looking at please?

Lazyusername · 05/09/2023 16:39

@IClaudine Have a re-read of my previous posts where I explain the difference between lobbying and what I am talking about.

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IClaudine · 05/09/2023 16:41

sezzer87 · 05/09/2023 16:08

Op mumsnet is well known for its tendency to attract mindless idiots.
I can understand people doubting things like the royal family are lizards but to flat out ignore a very very plausible theory that isn't even a theory anymore is just insanity at this point.
You would think after EVERYTHING people have been through in the last 3 years that everybody would have woken up by now.

Sadly that are clearly still many brainless mums out there who think the people higher up actually care about them. They must lead such sheltered lives.
I've been reading about this for over a decade and slowly but surely everything predicted has come true.

Brainless mums? Charming.

What is next on the bingo card? Sheeple? Do your own research?

EmmaEmerald · 05/09/2023 16:41

@Charlize43 now I've realised it's unstoppable, I'm similar

but I do get annoyed at being called a CT and it's worth looking at the wider picture for investment decisions etc. like in 2020, people like me said inflation and interest rates would rise but there's still people surprised by it.

Lazyusername · 05/09/2023 16:42

@Fightyouforthatpie But many of the WEF members ARE companies, and the public are not being told of the influence that they want to have over us or that they have representatives in our Governments. Just look at our Government now and have a think. Are they busy day-in, day-out working for your benefit? No, they are syphoning our cash away in dodgy deals. And Labour will do exactly the same. There's no point in voting for either; we need a new system.

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Calistano · 05/09/2023 16:43

Tbf when they said "you will own nothing and be happy" (they removed that BTW) they were probably right. I don't hold out much hope.

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