WEF - Conspiracy Theory?

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Every so often, someone in comments will mention the WEF and a torrent of responses follows; memes of tinfoil hat-wearers, insults etc.

I'm very interested in politics; I read around all of the papers, news sites etc.
From what I understand there are valid reasons for people to be concerned about the WEF. I want to post some FACTS, along with sources, about the WEF and then I would love to hear what other people think. If I am a "conspiracy nut" for having concerns and thinking the public should know much more about this then please enlighten me.

The WEF exists. Here is its website.
The World Economic Forum (weforum.org)
It holds meetings at Davos each year. Members consist of politicians, owners of corporations & social media and others.
The WEF was created by Klaus Schwab. He is the Chairman of the WEF.
Klaus Schwab - Wikipedia
He wrote a book called Covid 19, the Great Reset. It is currently available on Amazon. I have read it. It calls for the opportunity which has arisen through the pandemic to be used to change the way the world is run, bringing in a system of "stakeholder capitalism". In this system, democracy becomes of lesser importance and decisions are taken by corporations in conjunction with the UN.
You can read a more complex explanation here:
Conspiracy theories aside, there is something fishy about the Great Reset - resilience
The WEF have a programme of "Young Global Leaders". You can read about them here on the WEF's own site:
What are Young Global Leaders and what impact can they have? | World Economic Forum (weforum.org)
Young global leaders have included Angela Merkel, Tony Blair, Emanuel Macron, Jacinda Ardern, Justin Trudeau and many more.
In 2017 Klaus Schwab stated on video that the WEF had "penetrated the Cabinets" of governments around the world and that over half of Canada's Government, including Trudeau were Young Global Leaders.

(1:08:30) You can see MP's profiles on the WEF website by searching their name followed by WEF. Some are there. Some are not. Sunak and Starmer are both listed. Starmer is on video saying he prefers Davos to Westminster. The WEF Wikepedia page states: In May 2020, the WEF and the Prince of Wales's Sustainable Markets Initiative launched "The Great Reset" project, a five-point plan to enhance sustainable economic growth following the global recession caused by the COVID-19 pandemic lockdowns.[128] "The Great Reset" was to be the theme of WEF's annual meeting in August 2021. The forum defines the system that it wants to create as "Stakeholder Capitalism". The Transnational Institute describes the World Economic Forum's main purpose as being "to function as a socializing institution for the emerging global elite, globalization's "Mafiocracy" of bankers, industrialists, oligarchs, technocrats and politicians. They promote common ideas, and serve common interests: their own." According to the European Parliament's think tank, critics see the WEF as an instrument for political and business leaders to "take decisions without having to account to their electorate or shareholders".[163] Since 2009, the WEF has been working on a project called the Global Redesign Initiative (GRI), which proposes a transition away from intergovernmental decision-making towards a system of multi-stakeholder governance. According to the Transnational Institute (TNI), the Forum is hence planning to replace a recognised democratic model with a model where a self-selected group of "stakeholders" make decisions on behalf of the people.

I could go on (I realise I already have 🙂) but I'm saying I don't remember any of us being consulted about having democracy taken away so we could be ruled by corporations. This is not about anti-vaxx, lizard people or anything else. As far as I can see this is a very serious affront to our freedom and democracy. AIBU?

I didn’t follow the State of Fear threads but it’s strange they were all deleted

Creating fear during that period was the intention

Maybe the threads overdid it idk but behavourial impact was decided by people good at it, there’s no surprise it worked surely

Do you seriously think that world governments are making decisions at this point?

It's the new world order, we are run by big corporations. Black Rock and Vanguard own everything from fast food to media and everything in between including pharmaceuticals. Does this not worry you? BR & V own each other and their company structure is so complicated that you can't get to their shareholders. You could probably guess a few though.

These teamed with the huge power of big tech, MS, Google, Meta. MS really run the show, everything we use technologically and have come to rely on is run off SQL server. They have SO MUCH POWER.

It's a mistake to dismiss and belittle people who highlight this 'hidden in plane sight' agenda, like OP says, they're telling you what they're going to do. There's no conspiracy. It's there in black and white.

I can't believe Bidens presidency isn't ringing alarm bells with some people either.

^ I voted YABU for this comment.

And thanks for reminding me who these nutters are, it helps to avoid accidentally clicking on some fruit loop link.

They meet and talk...

Edit: And I have actually read a lot of stuff on their web site, not worried, just another lot of people trying to 'save the world', just like me and my friends in the pub on a Friday night.

Have you ever been to a meeting with senior stakeholders? Herding cats. I doubt this lot will ever come to an agreement, let alone get anything done.

Do as they do, never as they say.

When politicians at the upper echelons of society were building their property empire at the peak of 2008, die you ever wonder why?

When they were all partying while having locked down the country for fear of Covid, did it make you think if they had a special Covid shield that the rest of us didn’t?

When they buy coastal villas and multi million dollar real estate in regions which we are told will be under water in the next 30 years, does it raise the question why?

When they fly by private jet or first class to come to a conference or protest to tell the small people to emit less carbon, does it raise the question why they’re not afraid enough to cut their own carbon foot print?

@RachaelAnn

Where exactly in my post did I belittle the op?

The fact that anyone still thinks that Biden is running the show tells you everything you need to know about how naive and downright stupid the public is.

The guy can barely stand up straight and can’t remember his own name most of the time, so severe is his dementia. Yet people refuse to believe that someone else is running the US govt.

Sorry, you didn't! I forgot I had replied to you and went off on a bit of a tangent!

BlackRock, that pulled investment in arms companies following the countless school shootings in the US, that BlackRock?:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-breakingviews-idUSKCN1HC26V

or the BlackRock that got binned by Louisiana state due to its commitment to environmental policies, that BlackRock?:

https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/louisiana-remove-794-mln-blackrock-funds-over-esg-drive-2022-10-05/#:~:text=Oct%205%20(Reuters)%20%2D%20Louisiana,governance%20(ESG)%20investment%20strategies.

scary stuff!

both examples where if companies could run governments society would be a better place, but they don’t.

Ok, so if we take all of this at face value OP, what do you intend to do?
What action are you planning on taking? How do you intend to make sure your rights are not impeded or removed?

Yep.

My neighbour flies exec jets and he was at his busiest during Covid taking the great and the good to tropical paradises to escape the tedium of lockdown.
Meanwhile, us mugs followed the rules and believed the hype. I was genuinely scared the night Boris gave his lockdown speech but it all fell apart very quickly for me when Prof Neil Ferguson who predicted millions of deaths and wanted us contained for even longer was caught nipping across London to visit his mistress. When Numerous politicians flaunted the ‘rules’ and Cummings went to Barnard Castle - but still people believed these people and the fact they were in mortal danger.

Waves back @EmmaEmerald 😊

Those threads were fascinating in so many ways. The level of vitriol from some quarters was mind boggling. Any link or article posted was dissected to the nth degree for right wing associations. There was alot of joking about the 77th brigade. The threads were removed due to “incitement to riot” partly - plus ‘not in the spirit”.

The whole use of fear to control the masses during the pandemic was very interesting as while many were genuinely (and rightly so if vulnerable) of the virus itself in the early day, there was a bigger cohort more frightened of rule breaking and neighbourhood surveillance, and yet more who relished the opportunity to police others. Shades of the Stamford Prison Experiment…..

There is now a huge body of evidence for future crises which will be used to “sort the wheat from the chaff”.

As others have said we’re past the point of really doing anything about it all, because most people, understandably just want a quiet life as members of the tribe. Ostracising and othering is already a staple of daily life in so many small ways, it doesn’t take much to escalate. If you are told that people who even think differently to you are a huge threat to you and your family, the switch from defence to offence will be surprisingly easy.

Another excellent post - thank you for this.

Just because I questioned so many things about covid at the time, I was labelled as a tin foil hat wearer/conspiracy theorist and banned from several forums. I never denied it’s existence or the fact that to a small group, it needed to be taken very seriously. However, the overreaction and self appointed ‘police’ was shocking. It was almost like an enemy occupation with neighbours betraying others to the authorities because they believed they were ‘doing the right thing’

The NHS became the national religion and I was actually questioned by a neighbour because I didn’t appear for the weekly propaganda clapping sessions.

Our MP's are going to Davos and being lobbied by corporations, energy companies and the rest and then come back and start siphoning off the people's money to their mates who are also "in the club".

Oh good lord OP, they can sit in the UK and the exact same will be happening.

You make it sound like they they are members of SPECTRE, do you have the same dramatic reaction to WTO conferences, the G7 and G20 summits etc?

In terms of £ options, I'm currently living in a teeny tiny place and the mortgage broker said they expect that people won't be allowed to get mortgages on tiny properties in future. Mine just exceeds the square footage being discussed but he wanted to make me aware in case of trouble selling it on. He said "I get the impression you understand the financial future more than some".

Meanwhile, if my other flat ever sells, I would be interested in investing in one of those rental only blocks that are everywhere now, but they're all owned by big finance firms.

I'm glad to be out of London, it feels more normal where I am and no one is horrified when you want to use cash. I was also pleased to see the unstaffed stores in London closing - is it Amazon or Tesco. I realise it's because they couldn't make it work, but thank goodness for that. There might be a few years more of relative normality.

I do understand wanting to be part of the tribe but getting into Stanford Prison Experiment territory really exceeds that.

And I know I say this often, but I still can't get past my neighbour telling me I was a CT when discussion arose about the HSBC promo saying 'your DNA will be your data". I was going past a full set of those adverts every day at Euston station, why would it be a conspiracy?!! He said "oh you've seen some shit on Facebook, haven't you". I don't use Facebook and I'm not an idiot who'd believe some random crap there.

Another neighbour didn't believe me about mask police till he saw them at Victoria Station, he had the decency to apologise though.

A question for those saying Biden is a puppet-who is pulling the strings?

The fact that you have to ask that despite it being in plain sight that Biden has no clue what’s going on, shows the level of denial you are in.

Eh, I asked a genuine question aski g who you think is pulling the strings. Why such a hostile response rather than actually answering?

“everything we use technologically and have come to rely on is run off SQL server”

this has me in stitches ! evil sql server 😆

You are 100% correct OP but on here you'll mostly just get shouted down sadly.

I think the main problem is that there is a perception that organisations like the WEF are just think tanks figuring out how to make the world a better place - like the conversations referenced by a PP in the pub. However, all of those who take part have enough money and clout to bring some of those things into reality and a primary concern is that profit must be made.

It is already possible for corporations to sue states that interfere with their profit making ability. Therefore it’s quite the incentive for politicians to co-operate with corporations from that perspective alone. Never mind the directorships and other incentives that grease the wheels.

On the “tin foil hat” front, I also think that high profile politicians are easily held over a barrel via “blackmail”. Those who get to the top of the greasy pole with any sort of skeletons in the closet can be easily manipulated. When someone is exposed for corruption I always wonder who they’ve pissed off so badly to be chucked off the gravy train, because often they’ve been dodgy for years.

The world has become so complex and entwined on so many fronts, I’m quite glad that (touch wood) I’ve only a couple of decades left tbh. I don’t have the same capacity to adapt as younger generations- who have been brought up to it all as well. I don’t find all the innovations that helpful mainly because I just can’t keep up.

Mistress
im really glad you’re still in MN
haven’t seen you in ages

Im 47 and a couple of decades might be too much. I always said George Michael age is good enough.

i just don’t see anything positive coming and while I can keep up with the tech, I don’t enjoy it. Just managing life admin feels like the work of a PA now. The housework robot that would be useful isn’t going to happen I think.

Torybot or Putinbot