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DH won’t let me go out during ‘work hours’

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rippedjeansniceshoes · 29/08/2023 17:26

Hi name changed as I don’t know what to make of this.
DH owns his own company and works from our home office. I am a stay at home mum with 3 young DC.
Having 3 children under 5 means I am hands-on and very busy with the children day-day.
My husband works a few hours a day, Mon-Fri. He is very lucky as his business takes care of itself at this point. He makes a few phone calls, sends a few emails and he’s done. Once sometimes twice a week he will spend the whole day doing a hobby that he loves. He does this mainly with his business partner (very good friend) and with business associates. After the hobby they chat and have a few drinks. He said this is classed as his work as it is during the Mon-Fri work hours.

A friend of mine (also with 3 young DC) asked me if I was free for lunch this Thursday afternoon as her siblings were looking after her DC and she had some child-free time! Knowing that my DH is very quiet work-wise of an afternoon (and had no golf planned) I said yes! I was so excited to get out without DC and honestly didn’t think it would be an issue for DH to look after them for 2 hours of an afternoon.

Just by me asking it has created WW3 😥 I’ve cancelled the child-free plans with my friend and I am just so upset.

DH said no as it is during his work hours. I don’t understand. I explained to him that after a long summer at home with the kids I really needed a couple of hours with my friend! His response is that I need to get it though my ‘thick skull’ that Mon-Fri are his work hours and he can’t look after the kids during that time. I explained he has lots of child-free time during the week for golf and I have none. He said golf doesn’t count as it is ‘work’ for him.

Every time I ask for child-free time this happens. Although I did go to the cinema with some mum-friends in June without the kids and he was ok (eventually) with that (DC asleep, evening showing) I drove.

Is it me? Am I wrong here?

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FedUpWithEverything123 · 29/08/2023 20:32

That comment "get it through your thick skull" gave me chills and made me remember it being said to me by my ex husband. Usually before he punched me.

It gave me chills too. It's such a particularly awful thing to say. He exhibits emotional abuse and financial abuse OP, I worry for your physical safety.

Pipsquiggle · 29/08/2023 20:34

He's a controlling twat.
He needs to step up and be a proper parent to his DC.
In situations like this would you be better being a single parent as at least he would have to care for them for a few days every fortnight?

Smithy8001 · 29/08/2023 20:36

I hardly ever comment on here, but my God. This is chilling. You are a victim of abuse OP.
You don’t have to live like this. Get you and the kids out before they end up thinking this is a normal way to behave.

Spywoman · 29/08/2023 20:41

JANEY205 · 29/08/2023 18:24

Is he a total moron? Yes clearly he is.

Abusive partners love to throw out ‘you’re lucky you get this, other husbands don’t do this xyz bare minimum thing.’’

OP, my husband does the bedtime routine every evening and often takes our children out for the day or I go out without them and he has them at home all day, so I can have an actual break and out of the house too. They aren’t just my kids!

Your husband is as suspected a shitty, shitty parent and a horrible partner. He sounds abusive and controlling and like your job is just to pander to him. I don’t often advise people to leave but I would strongly suggest counseling and taking an extended visit to your Mum for him to realise you’re serious that this shit is wrong and cannot continue.

I would strongly suggest counseling and taking an extended visit to your Mum for him to realise you’re serious that this shit is wrong and cannot continue.

Just to be clear, I hope the PP didn't mean couples counselling. It isn't recommended with abusive partners because they manipulate the counsellor and they use the information they gain from you when your guard is down against you. Individual counselling would be a good idea though.

Mamabear2424 · 29/08/2023 20:44

Blimey what an asshole, 'thick skull' is rude enough but cant look after his own kids for 2 hours?

SeeTheWorldAnotherWay · 29/08/2023 20:44

YANBU…he totally is, though.
It’s great his business is doing so well; that will allow for you to arrange a few hours a week, EVERY week, paid crèche / childminder / babysitter to allow you to do as you please, without having to ask his lordship’s permission.
He’s an abusive twunt. I know what I’d do.

FishyTree · 29/08/2023 20:45

Clearly, the way he spoke to you was wrong. However, ultimately you are a SAHM and your role is to provide childcare and housework support to enable your DH to work.

Your DH is working during the day. Whether that is attending an office or playing golf is irrelevant. It is ludicrous in my view to declare that he has to watch the kids during his working hours.

You are a SAHM- you cannot just saunter off for lunch and leave the DC to your DH while he is working.

QueenBitch666 · 29/08/2023 20:52

Have my first LTB. He's vile

ArabeIIaScott · 29/08/2023 20:54

FishyTree · 29/08/2023 20:45

Clearly, the way he spoke to you was wrong. However, ultimately you are a SAHM and your role is to provide childcare and housework support to enable your DH to work.

Your DH is working during the day. Whether that is attending an office or playing golf is irrelevant. It is ludicrous in my view to declare that he has to watch the kids during his working hours.

You are a SAHM- you cannot just saunter off for lunch and leave the DC to your DH while he is working.

Wow.

This is your response to a woman in an abusive, controlling relationship. Amazing.

Hibiscrubbed · 29/08/2023 20:56

Unbelievably controlling and abusive. Jesus fucking Christ.

Laughinglama · 29/08/2023 21:00

Another to say get up and leave ! This is absolutely NOT acceptable. It seems he can do as he pleases, see his friends, do his hobbies whilst you have to beg permission to see a friend once in a while.

you can guarantee if he had needed that time to ‘entertain clients’ ie play golf with his friend it would of been fine.

this is abuse ! I hope you find the strength to leave and find your freedom. Remember he is setting the example to your children a) of how they can treat their future partners and b) how they can expect to be treated by a future partner.

TaiDee · 29/08/2023 21:02

FishyTree · 29/08/2023 20:45

Clearly, the way he spoke to you was wrong. However, ultimately you are a SAHM and your role is to provide childcare and housework support to enable your DH to work.

Your DH is working during the day. Whether that is attending an office or playing golf is irrelevant. It is ludicrous in my view to declare that he has to watch the kids during his working hours.

You are a SAHM- you cannot just saunter off for lunch and leave the DC to your DH while he is working.

The OP didn’t ‘declare’ that she was going to ‘saunter off’. She asked her DH if she could, and just asking the question has provoked and angry reaction.

A SAHP should be able to ask their DP for a couple of hours out of the house without fear of being met with hostility.

Someoneonlyyouknow · 29/08/2023 21:02

FishyTree · 29/08/2023 20:45

Clearly, the way he spoke to you was wrong. However, ultimately you are a SAHM and your role is to provide childcare and housework support to enable your DH to work.

Your DH is working during the day. Whether that is attending an office or playing golf is irrelevant. It is ludicrous in my view to declare that he has to watch the kids during his working hours.

You are a SAHM- you cannot just saunter off for lunch and leave the DC to your DH while he is working.

How do you account for the "you're lucky to get" one hour a day alone time (still within the home) and the abusive twat's inability to put HIS children to bed? There is no fair division of work and childcare outside of 9 - 5.

RaisinCain · 29/08/2023 21:02

It is so bloody upsetting that women in the western world, with so many choices, are still living like this. Dogsbodies for their husbands, doing all the childcare for lazy, spoilt men …and can’t even get an evening off!

Your life sounds so limited, and your DH sounds spoilt and entitled and way too used to controlling you. I would worry about your long term future here. Being a SAHM you are so reliant on him and have to ‘toe the line’. It’s a shitty way to live.

Longer term I would personally be looking at getting back to work and he can pay for childcare and a cleaner if his business is doing so well. You need a long term plan because this guy clearly doesn’t have your best interests at heart.

Short term, you need to think about how you are going to deal with him, though, and this ridiculous situation where your needs don’t count.

Dontknowwhatjusthappened · 29/08/2023 21:07

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FishyTree · 29/08/2023 21:07

@Someoneonlyyouknow

In my view it is pretty generous giving a SAHM an hour of time off childcare every single day! I would show y the vast majority of SAHPs are on duty in the evening on weeknights with childcare and preparing dinner etc.

Tourist29 · 29/08/2023 21:07

Sorry I know this isn’t the point but can you run a successful business with so little input? Am I the only one curious about that aspect?

Dotcheck · 29/08/2023 21:08

You have no access to money, he doesn’t want you to work, restricts the time you spend without children and repeatedly insults you.

OP, please, please get a job, or start training so you can be financially independent.

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Beetlebuggy · 29/08/2023 21:09

FishyTree · 29/08/2023 21:07

@Someoneonlyyouknow

In my view it is pretty generous giving a SAHM an hour of time off childcare every single day! I would show y the vast majority of SAHPs are on duty in the evening on weeknights with childcare and preparing dinner etc.

That's sarcasm, right? 🙏

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Toenailz · 29/08/2023 21:11

Are you usually this wet, op?

I get that he's abusive, but for goodness sake do you actually really need to ask this? You already know. I struggle to believe an adult woman with children isn't sure on the answer on this one. If someone was treating your children like this (when they grow up), what would your answer be?

Make use of the resources that have been recommended to you on the thread. Only you can do it.

Pepperama · 29/08/2023 21:11

He doesn’t seem to understand his role as dad. I’d help him by going out at least three nights a week. You work all day looking after the kids so 5pm onwards is time where kids need to be shared equally.

FishyTree · 29/08/2023 21:12

@Dontknowwhatjusthappened

The whole purpose of a SAHP is to support the working parent by providing childcare and housework support. That means being on duty during the working week and taking the pressure off the working parent.

The vast majority of working parents do not get an hour to themselves on weeknights so Imo it is extremely generous of the DH to facilitate a parent who does not work to have this!

HipHipWhoRay · 29/08/2023 21:12

Book a babysitter for lunch and head out. You were asking if he could do it. If he can’t have a back up. Could your mum even come round and be with kids whilst you head out?