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To think academic success truly does not matter

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Hotstuff18 · 29/08/2023 12:05

Firstly, this isn’t sour grapes. I went to a very prestigious RG university and was always the annoying girl with my hand up at school (ah misspent youth 😂). However, in almost all the adults I know now their academic outcomes have had literally no bearing on their lives now in their late 30’s and early 40’s. In my own life, my A’s at A level count for absolutely nothing when my part time teacher salary is absolutely dwarfed by my non academic DH’s who spent most of his time at school messing around and smoking behind the bike sheds. At work, a lot of my colleagues didn’t do that well in their own exams and now do the exact same job as me. Many friends who work in trade jobs having left school at 16 earn very impressive salaries meanwhile others with top grades in their exams earn low money. One particular example that always sticks out to me is a lady who lives down the street, who’s also a teacher, absolutely bombed her exams as she spent the whole time partying (whilst I spent most of year 13 diligently writing up notes and doing practice essays) and yet we ended up living on the same street doing the exact same job. I’m not bitter about this at all, I absolutely love my life however, I do regret not just having more fun at school and not worrying about my grades because it really hasn’t paid off. Obviously, for certain jobs such as medicine too grades are needed but for the vast majority it truly doesn’t matter at all. I have definitely learned my lesson on it with my own DC and have never excessively pushed them and my main priority has always been their social progress/happiness at school rather than grades, which I think will honestly stand them in far better stead than getting all 9’s in their GCSE’s. Aibu?

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Dryona · 06/09/2023 12:14

anonymousxoxo · 04/09/2023 19:00

I don't have to rely on clients, thankfully - wouldn't like to live like that.

Well, if I ever was in the position where I could no longer rely on clients, I could very easily transition over to an employed role. However, in my field of work there is never a shortage of clients so I can't see that it would be an issue. But by all means you carry on!

Badbadbunny · 07/09/2023 07:25

Ilikepinacoladass · 04/09/2023 07:04

I don't really understand the obsession to pay off student loan, it's basically just like a graduate tax, not like a normal loan, as it's linked to your income so if you ever lose job / go part time etc the payments will stop or reduce.

I've gone part time after having a child and now pay off about £19 a month, I couldn't care less if the whole thing ever gets paid off or written off. When I was earning more yes it was a bit annoying to have a larger chunk go to SL, but I was earning more so didn't miss that money as much.

It's important for the ones who WILL pay it off! If they pay it off sooner, they'll have paid a shed load (thousands if not tens of thousands) less in interest over the 30/40 year term.

Fair enough, for those who won't ever earn enough to pay it off, it doesn't matter. But a lot WILL pay it off, and then it becomes like a mortgage, where you're better to pay it off quicker, to reduce the amount of interest you'll end up paying over the full duration.

CoffeeCantata · 07/09/2023 14:22

It always mattered to me for its own sake. I didn't expect to be able to turn it into financial gain or any other commodity - is that what OP means?

Yes, you can have a happy and successful life without it if it doesn't matter to you.

DilemmaDelilah · 07/09/2023 16:53

I'm kind of on the fence. I have a degree gained as a mature student. My previous jobs had been in hospitality. I don't use any of the degree work in my job, but I wouldn't have got my job without it. The job specification requires a degree, but quite frankly I think a degree in anything (mine is at least related) would have done - it can be used as a measure of ability to write clear reports, understand language, do research etc.

Ilikepinacoladass · 07/09/2023 18:09

Badbadbunny · 07/09/2023 07:25

It's important for the ones who WILL pay it off! If they pay it off sooner, they'll have paid a shed load (thousands if not tens of thousands) less in interest over the 30/40 year term.

Fair enough, for those who won't ever earn enough to pay it off, it doesn't matter. But a lot WILL pay it off, and then it becomes like a mortgage, where you're better to pay it off quicker, to reduce the amount of interest you'll end up paying over the full duration.

But the main difference between it and a mortgage and any other loan is that it's linked to income. If income goes down or stops then the student 'loan' tax goes down or stops too.

Badbadbunny · 08/09/2023 20:00

Ilikepinacoladass · 07/09/2023 18:09

But the main difference between it and a mortgage and any other loan is that it's linked to income. If income goes down or stops then the student 'loan' tax goes down or stops too.

Yes, obviously, but if income doesn't go down, then you've ended up paying a shed load more interest than you needed to.

Ilikepinacoladass · 11/09/2023 22:24

Badbadbunny · 08/09/2023 20:00

Yes, obviously, but if income doesn't go down, then you've ended up paying a shed load more interest than you needed to.

Well if your income doesn't go down then maybe the degree was worth it 😂

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