I’ve withdrawn from organ donation register

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I give blood and have always been very pro organ donation.

Sadly I have just withdrawn as protest against reproductive organ donation. I can’t support it and am very conflicted as would like to donate other organs.

What are your views and is it a hasty decision (although not sure I would change my mind).

"iT WiLl NeVeR HaPpEn!"

Pointing out that someone is being ridiculous and is blind to the actual facts of the matter or is twisting the very clear statements from PN is not "scolding".

You can't shut down women speaking by telling them they're being a scold. Nice try though.

That's one of the reasons I am opposed to all reproductive procedures.

How many female animals have been tortured and killed for unnecessary, non life threatening, wish fulfilment.

You ok?

Not really, but who knows, they may find a way to make it work in future without any risk to the foetus. It's certainly an interesting idea.

Well said

Yes, anyone can opt-out for any reason. But don't say proudly that you're fine that people will die because you're doing this "for women" then get annoyed when people say no you're doing it for you, not "women".

*Please! A man having a uterus and carrying a live baby to term is much bigger news than a dry admin government forms are changing announcement.

That won’t ever happen. Grotesque experiments and “validation” uterine implants probably will.

@BillaBongGirl It looks to me like some of the medical community think they can and should do this already. Ethics can be debated, but I can see it being allowed in some countries, possibly with financial incentives for donors, a bit like surrogacy.

You are choosing not to donate organs which could save multiple lives. Of course you are being unreasonable.

Isnt it the case that whether you are on the donor registry or not, the final decision lies with your next of kin?

So hypothetically you can make sure they know to donate all your organs except your uterus and that solves the problem?

Sorry if that’s been answered already, I couldn’t see it.

But it's not ridiculous.

As recently as 5 years ago I wouldn't have believed that radical mastectomies would be seen as a treatment for young, often autistic, women who don't want to be women.

I wouldn't have believed that male bodied people could compete in women's sport.

I wouldn't have believed that a rapist could be incarcerated in a woman's prison.

There are already scientists trying to be the first to have ground breaking procedures for TW to have babies. This is reported not only in Pink News.

But go ahead just belittle valid concerns rather than accept that those who manage the donor register could make it easy for women to be reassured that their parts will not be used in the future in this way by having a clear opt out. This is not an unreasonable request no matter how much you try to suggest it is.

Have you even read the thread? There is no issue! That’s the issue!

Being on the donor register doesn’t put any reproductive organs at risk of being donated without your or your NOK explicit separate wishes.

Despite the OP and many misinformed posters saying to the contrary that it does. Many posters have patiently posted links and screen shots showing them this.

We are not MRAs for trying to resolve concerns that stem from misinformation and scaremongering.

True, mine's a bit old and past it now, probably too well used or something anyway 😬

@NatashaDancing I hadn't thought about the animal testing involved before. I don't agree with it at all. Cruel and unnecessary.

Exactly. And when a woman dies from her heart or her kidneys or any other organ that could've been donated, I hope you feel really proud of this decision OP.

I'll be staying on the register.

It is not unreasonable to request a specific opt out.

At the moment some women don't feel very reassured and that's understandable given the way our rights to single spaces have been removed without consent. A woman was raped on a NHS ward and was gastlighted and told that wasn't possible. Can't you see how that results in a lack of trust in systems.

I haven't removed my consent but I do have serious concerns that women are not being listened to. It wouldn't take much for whoever designs the consent forms to put this right and to give a degree of reassurance.

Everyone has the right to say no to being a donor, for any reason, even ones you don't agree with.

Yes, that is correct. And if you have any final wishes on record with your Dr or consultant, your NOK cannot overrule them.

I've just signed up.

It is unreasonable when we are already automatically opted out of all donations of that kind by law. They have to have our explicit consent or that of our NOK to take our uterus or reproductive organs. If there is no NOK or no final wishes and we are opted in on the organ registry they still cannot take our uterus.

Not that they are taking uteruses at the moment anyway. They aren’t. They’re doing living donor transplants in the U.K.

We already are opted out on uterine transplants and reproductive organs. It’s done and dusted. Doesn’t matter what it says on the organ registry because that is for other organs.

So yes they are being wholly unreasonable to demand something they already have.

Consent can be changed easily. Processes are changed easily. This has been proven.

So no, we are absolutely not being remotely unreasonable to not trust health services to do the right thing by us women when they have a demonstrable history of deceiving, introducing things by stealth and throwing women under the bus. The fear is based on proven history, and is wholly justified.

Says the person who lies about what the article actually says.

So many people struggle with consent and ethics

I get it but people seem to be struggling with what's important. Saving many lives vs some thing we might think annoying happening in the future which probably won't even have the potential to happen to the organs of anyone on this thread.