Is there going to be another pandemic

[Lookingforwardtoautumnnow]

This winter?

Seen a couple of people posting about it, tbf they are conspiracy types, but I have anxiety after having covid & long covid and can’t go through all that again. Can anyone reassure me?

Sorry you suffered but that is uncalled for. The point of these threads is healthy debate. For the vast majority it was a mild illness.

Only if you adhere to it.

If not a 'lockdown' how exactly do you suggest another pandemic could be contained then and that the deaths of potentially thousands of people could be prevented? I am soooo interested in your ideas and hoping that you can put my mind at rest! 🤔🙄😱

Take a good hard look at yourself are you this aggressive in real life with anyone disagrees with you?

Anxiety? It has a over 99% recovery rate 🤦‍♂️ and an extremely low IFR sounds like you don't know the details but by all means fall for the scam and there's no such thing as long Covid but thousands of people have been vaccine injured. Perhaps you don't know that either

If not a 'lockdown' how exactly do you suggest another pandemic could be contained then and that the deaths of potentially thousands of people could be prevented? I am soooo interested in your ideas and hoping that you can put my mind at rest! 🤔🙄😱

Luc Montagnier -now deceased, Nobel Prize winning virologist - go on you could do worse, try listening to him

If not a 'lockdown' how exactly do you suggest another pandemic could be contained then and that the deaths of potentially thousands of people could be prevented? I am soooo interested in your ideas and hoping that you can put my mind at rest! 🤔🙄😱

If not a 'lockdown' how exactly do you suggest another pandemic could be contained then and that the deaths of potentially thousands of people could be prevented? I am soooo interested in your ideas and hoping that you can put my mind at rest! 🤔🙄😱

If not a 'lockdown' how exactly do you suggest another pandemic could be contained then and that the deaths of potentially thousands of people could be prevented? I am soooo interested in your ideas and hoping that you can put my mind at rest! 🤔🙄😱

Would you advocate another lockdown?

@Cariadm , a few people answered that in the near future, psychologically, people wouldn’t comply the same way. So, there shouldn’t be another lockdown. The government threatened to get a third one going but has already lost credibility and could not risk exposing its weakness of how many people would ignore its orders.

I think it would hard to get much compliance next time around and everything seems to be going down the shitter anyway, so a new pandemic would probably just blend into the wallpaper.

COVID-19 was actually the first time anyone tried a lockdown for any pandemic! Arguably, before the internet, it wouldn't even have been possible.

Also, lockdowns are probably only possible for diseases that have a particular level of lethality. If you had something with a really high IFR, the warehouse workers and delivery people and so on wouldn't work either, emergency services would collapse along with basic lifelines, so sitting there WFH and ordering stuff online wouldn't be possible. If you have something with an IFR lower than COVID, absolutely nobody would pay any attention.

If we get something else with a similar IFR to COVID, well, probably most people won't be as compliant this time, and what will happen is that a lot of older people will die somewhat earlier than they would have done and the average life expectency will be pushed downwards a bit.

Not very nice, but on the other hand, civilization wouldn't collapse either.

For most of human history, we had diseases far more dangerous than COVID circulating all the time as normal, not just during special "pandemic" times. It was crap but humanity went on living and functioning (just about!) regardless.

And your credentials are what exactly?

Have you ever heard the saying 'don't answer a question with a question'?! Of course there would have to be a lockdown situation, that's the question I asked you, what in reality is the alternative to controlling a pandemic and preventing thousands of deaths?! 🙄

@Cariadm you don't need to post the same thing three times, that's spamming the thread.

The result of something that was that lethal and also highly contagious would be the collapse of all lifeline services, not a "lockdown."

In fact, diseases with such a high IFR are rarely all that contagious. Ebola, contrary to what a lot of people think, is not all that contagious and burns itself out quickly. Smallpox is nasty, but is also far less contagious than COVID-19; it can be contained quite quickly with "ring vaccination" procedures.

Not sure I'm understanding your message. Are you saying there is no such thing as Long Covid?

Why, when I am asking the same question to several posters, do I need to vary the wording?! Your use of 'spamming' is not an accurate use of the word and it's up to me to decide what I feel I 'need ' to do...🙄

@Cariadm Crack on then, I'm sure it will foster healthy debate and not be at all irritating.

Absolutely.

This is the thing with lockdowns. Even assuming for the sake of argument that they save more lives than they cost, they're clearly not something we can pull off that often. People who default to the assumption that this is how we manage pandemics now and they just have to happen in certain circumstances don't really seem to be thinking about that aspect.

It's not actually just about whether lockdown turns out to be the most effective pandemic management tool. That's only one of the relevant factors.

What about the economy, mental health, impact on other health services? How would we pay for all of this?