People chucking piss at gigs

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Just came back from a gig at a local park. I’ve not been to a gig for ages and was really looking forward to it but the amount of people wasted and the amount of plastic cups of piss flying around really spoiled it. We were nowhere near the front so had quite a lot of space around us but still pissed people knocked in to us like a good few times.

I went and had two drinks, it was £10 a drink each and a no food or drink could be brought in with bag searches so people must have spent a fortune.

Am I just old and miserable or aibu to never go a gig ever again.

My husband and son were there last night, they were obviously lucky as they didn't see any of that... Had an amazing night though despite the weather!

My husband took my son to a gig last week and they were actually chucking around Stella! The band handed it out! So it may not always be piss! I always avoid standing under a balcony just in case.

Disgusting, end of. Whoever does it, accepting it is largely men.

This thread has turned into something else.

We are having people say that women can be evil too and that saying that it's men at Oasis gigs who fling piss is somehow deifying women.

For starters the ratio of men to women at these type of gigs is significantly higher men to women ratios. Secondly there is a biological reason why it's simply easier for blokes to piss and throw.

None of this is putting women on a pedestal either. It's making an observation which can be fairly easily quantified as being a predominantly male issue.

There isn't sexism present here.

There is a problem with male yobs piss tossers at gigs with (predominantly northern) white male guitar bands.

Anyone who has been at one knows this. Cos they have eyes. There isn't a desire to sanctify women.

And women have said on this thread it's put them off going to see certain bands. Which is one reason why over the years the male domination at these gigs has increased. I bet that Ticketmaster could look at their purchase data of names and be able to see just how male dominated compared with other bands a Noel or Liam gig is too and if they had kept the historic data would be able to see the shift towards even more blokes.

But no, some dickhead has to invoke Godwin's law on a debate on the dickheads ruining Noel Gallagher gigs and say that women can be sadistic too as if the Noel fans are going around murdering innocent kids and the elderly. Which as much as I despise the piss lobbers is a statement which is grossly fucking offensive in comparing the utter horror of Holocaust to a bunch of lager louts who can't find a toilet.

Really. It's pretty fucked up. And I don't mean the idiots who ruin gigs.

@RedToothBrush to be fair there were posters who were claiming no woman could do such a thing, which is what I believe led to those kinds of responses.

Pissing at gigs is not comparable with genocide.

For the avoidance of doubt and anyone struggling to grasp the difference.

HTH.

I can’t believe this thread went from Oasis to Nazis…this escalated quickly 🤣

There's no leap too great when there's a chance for a little natter with the like minded about terrible women, real or imaginary.

It was exactly that, for me at least.

But god forbid anyone dare point that out or even digress into a related area. On a chat forum.

Moaning about Godwin’s law is as lazy as invoking it. It was an observation and reference to human behaviour. it wasn’t wrong either.

It was. We were talking about a Noel Gallagher gig. Not mass murder.

But carry on.

I don’t understand why on earth you would throw it instead of just pouring it on the ground?

They do it on purpose so people get covered with it. They think it's funny, especially when people get upset by it.

Well said @RedToothBrush

Exactly right.

Oasis are so unmusical, it’s unreal. Stick a cello in the back and I imagine the piss-throwing plebs think it’s comparable to the LSO.

Blur were always a million times better.

If people are claiming women would do no such thing (which I'm personally not, I'll accept the word of those who have seen it, though I haven't myself) then it's as a result of their experience. If you've spent several decades without ever seeing a type of behaviour from women that you've witnesses repeatedly from men, then it's completely reasonable you would see the behaviour as a problem with men. This isn't based in any sort of deification of women, but an objective conclusion based on what you know of the world.
As I said before, no one is going to discount years of lived experience because of a couple of anecdotes to the contrary on MN. Especially when they're always so extreme and hyperbolic, so it's quite clear they come with an agenda to malign women in a weak attempt to defend men.
If people believe strongly that some behaviours are the preserve of men, then that's entirely the fault of the men who've taught them that.
If you want to do some PR on men's behalf, that's the place to start rather than trying to hide the behaviour behind a smokescreen of what women apparantly do.

Got covered in a cup full of piss watching the Prodigy a few years ago. At an inside venue so it festered in the heat which was rank. Went to a concert at a racecourse, a woman just hitched up her dress and pissed on the floor in the middle of us all. Classy. And those who think it is only men - If a woman is in a dress in the middle of a crowd they can quite easily fill a cup and lob it tbh!

but an objective conclusion based on what you know of the world.
As I said before, no one is going to discount years of lived experience because of a couple of anecdotes to the contrary on MN

Is one persons conclusion based on what they know of the world ever objective? I’d argue that it’s highly unlikely to be.

I also struggle with the second half of that statement, what are you classifying as lived experience and what’s anecdote? Because you’re obviously giving more weight to one vs the other. How do you know what opinion is backed up by lived experience and what isn’t? Is it simply because it matches up with your viewpoint you find it more believable therefore it ‘counts’. There’s been lots of stand alone statements on this thread without any allusion to actual relevant ‘lived experience’

My lived experience is compiled of the things that I know happened because I was there. Anecdotes are people, in this case, strangers, telling me they witness something entirely different that contradicts my repeated experiences over decades. Its fairly obvious I'm going to have more confidence in my first hand eye witness account than the anecdotal ones of strangers. I'm happy to accept the anecdotes as truthful, but not to see them as evidence that a repeated pattern I've observed for decades is false.

I was smacked in the head once by a bottle of piss thrown at a concert. I can remember the sky being full of these disgusting projectiles.

I'm happy to accept the anecdotes as truthful, but not to see them as evidence that a repeated pattern I've observed for decades is false

fair enough, but that doesn’t translate particularly well into the real world where many things are undeniably true despite many people never observing or experiencing them.

I’ve no doubt you have varied and extensive experience of people and the wider world but that doesn’t cover everything and by default behaviour we gravitate towards people like us or who share ethics/interests.

I have spent time socially with women who have talked about this behaviour at gigs like this (more so in the 90’s when I hung around pretty dodgy pubs) and shared anecdotes of their participation along with women who were openly proud of their violence (eg. You don’t want to piss me off on a Friday, some poor bastard always gets it on a Friday if I’m pissed off). I’ve never witnessed it first hand because funnily enough I didn’t really feel motivated to join any of them on their excursions.

Recognising the above as true doesn’t equal a defence of ‘men’s actions’, although I understand why you’d use that as a way of dismissing anything I post but it’s a fairly lazy way to try and undermine any points you just don’t like 🤷‍♀️

This used to happen in the 90's and it's men. In my opinion with cameras etc these people should be removed from the venue.

one of the wildest crowds I’ve ever seen (from a distance) was for Slipknot at a festival in 2000. There was literally what could only be described as a cloud of piss bombs hovering above the crowd because so many were being continuously thrown. It was only the second day of the festival so god knows how they all smelt by the last day.

I think this great. If the artists spot it, Just stop and call them out.
I’ve never heard of this, what next? Acid? It’s fucking disgusting.

Yes I’ve seen this too! At T In The Park festival in Scotland years ago.
why do they do it? Does anyone know why?!