People chucking piss at gigs

[Yajebbend]

Just came back from a gig at a local park. I’ve not been to a gig for ages and was really looking forward to it but the amount of people wasted and the amount of plastic cups of piss flying around really spoiled it. We were nowhere near the front so had quite a lot of space around us but still pissed people knocked in to us like a good few times.

I went and had two drinks, it was £10 a drink each and a no food or drink could be brought in with bag searches so people must have spent a fortune.

Am I just old and miserable or aibu to never go a gig ever again.

It’s been going on since the 90s at least. Grim and disgusting yes but nothing new.

Look up the term "Millwall Brick". They use to piss in rolled up newspapers, fill it with coins and throw it.

We were there last night, Noel was great and had a fantastic night!

£15 though for a 375ml bottle of wine 😮

Must have been lucky as didn’t see any flying piss thank goodness. Seen it at other gigs though, not just Oasis/Liam/Noel. Think it’s worse the closer to the front you go 🤢

It’s grim OP. I remember a friend getting a plastic bottle of urine absolutely launched through the crowd at close proximity to her, it hit her above her eye and split her eyebrow open. Feral behaviour.

A band I love recently posted on Insta to ask their fans to stop pissing on the floor in the pit.
It was 5SOS, they're a boyband ffs, I was really shocked, it's mainly teenage girls and me
I've never seen it at their shows, or actually any, although I could smell it at Mika earlier this year.

Gig last night. Flying piss everywhere and pissed up men feeling women up as they walked by ….middle aged crowd.
Utterly grim.

I have heard of this happening but must have been very, very lucky. I've been to metal gigs and big festivals like Download and the aforementioned Transmt in Glasgow and never been covered in so much as a drop of piss nor seen it thrown. I was pleasantly surprised at the good behaviour at Download actually as thought, if anywhere might be hotbed of piss-throwing, it would be there. Maybe I was just oblivious.

I was there, so much piss throwing, so many people fighting.

I was at Sam Fender this summer at St. James Park, 100 000 people over 2 nights, never saw one chuck of either piss or beer.

I don't think anyone chucks beer now at a tenner a pint.

This definitely does not happen at the Albert Hall.

Kirsty Sedgman has a fascinating thread about theatre etiquette and classism, she argued it's what the audiences in theatres used to be like—it's probably applicable to festivals? (NB: I'm the sort of audience member who thinks that I spent a small fortune to see the actors/musicians perform so I like a fair amount of decorum in the theatre. afaik tho' there's no flinging in theatres as yet.)

I haven’t done a #TheatreEtiquette thread for a while, but for those who don’t know, my book The Reasonable Audience is all about ‘bad behaviour’ in theatres & how it gets policed.

This thread explains how we got here, and why I think we’re going to be seeing more of this
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We need to draw lines between acceptable/unacceptable, inappropriate/inappropriate, good/bad. Violence & abuse – especially at FoH staff – are morally reprehensible! Consideration for others is good!

But we also need to think carefully about who gets to draw those lines, whose pleasures & needs are considered reasonable, & who disproportionately gets surveilled & policed & excluded. There’s a tendency to go “it’s simple common sense!”, but it’s more complicated than we think.

https://twitter.com/KirstySedgman/status/1644629849535815680

Noel was fab 🥰

I am not saying this as an excuse for it but individually I think (well hope) people who do it would be just as horrified but some people go crazy in a group

Again not an excuse though

Totally different crowd ....

Maybe they could put some energy into getting better toilets at venues for their fans. Disgusting toilets with long queues vs a cup wee. I know which one I'd choose. More female toilets and more loo roll at venues would go a long way.

But we also need to think carefully about who gets to draw those lines, whose pleasures & needs are considered reasonable, & who disproportionately gets surveilled & policed & excluded. There’s a tendency to go “it’s simple common sense!”, but it’s more complicated than we think.

So middle aged white males get to decide it's socially ok to hurl piss, fight and feel up women. And this is in no way excluding women or leading them to self exclude?

In what way is it NOT common sense to say, 'no really this is not ok'? Unless you are hard of thinking?

I am not thinking that white middle aged males are disproportionately excluded from gigs, especially not white guitar bands. Not when they are the vast majority of the crowd to begin with, because over years the women have already stopped coming because of the yobs.

These men can afford to go to other forms of entertainment. They are not cheap to go to either.

Gigs are not Theatre.

Seriously, it's utter bollocks as a comment. And it's not going to 'start happening more'. Dickheads have been at gigs for decades. Before that it was Football Hooliganism. Same crowd.

I've been going to festivals for 45 years and this has always gone on. Disgusting, yes it is, but one of the things which comes with the territory, along with the vile toilets.

That is utterly disgusting @Yajebbend.
I just hate seeing people drunk at concerts.
So I don't go anymore.
It's probably a hangup from childhood- a relative drank too much fairly frequently.

It's daft too - paying a hefty price to attend and then being so wasted you can't remember any of it.

Glad I'm too old for all this malarkey now. It's like something from Horrible Histories. People chucking piss about and everyone having to squelch around in it. I thought it was crap weather that made people choose to wear wellies!

I wonder if there's something of an element of girls/women not wanting to lose their place in a crowd and crowd etiquette at these gigs being somehow more competitive/less willing to allow people back.

Having gone to gigs alone for a long time, I know the value of making friends with people next to you and/or tactical piss times and/or regulating your intake of water.

If you are in the middle of the front of a gig, where people are jostling for position from doors open it's a lot harder to go for a toilet break. It really wouldn't surprise me if some just piss their pants rather than lose their space in sheer fanatism. But that's a different dynamic to hurling piss.

I have always used the toilet at gigs. Cos I am a civilised human being and it's really not that hard to do.

I've experienced this lots too, absolutely rank and never been to another gig after the worst one

The first time I got hit with a cup of wee I naively assumed it was beer 😆 I used to go to Download every year in the 2000s, 2010s and the piss throwing thing got worse and worse over the years. Got hit lots but the worst was a bottle with the lid on which hit me on the head, must have been thrown to purposely hurt someone.
It was mostly young men doing it. I do specifically remember seeing one girl just squatting in the crowd at the main stage , jeans down bum out, trying to wee into a cup, but she must have gotten state fright from all the people around her because she couldn't wee! And men off their faces just standing there weeing on the floor/onto people's feet.
They should all be made to drink it I reckon!

Reading in the 90s was rife with it. I don't think I ever came out of a pit without being covered in other peoples piss.
I saw one woman piss in a cup and throw it at Daphne and Celeste in 99 I think, might have been 97. But to be fair the only reason I remember it is because it's the only time I've ever seen a woman do it.

Ugh I was at Wembley 2009 and same issue, fckn disgusting ruined what was a great performance

People have definitely become bigger dicks since the pandemic.

There was a Harry styles concert in Frankfurt and it was clearly communicated digitally and at the start of the concert that the roof would be closed and due to the sensitive fire system, if a balloon hit the system, the alarms would go off and the venue would have to be evacuated and concert cancelled.

One person must have smuggled a balloon in and let it go mid concert. Thank goodness it didn't set the alarms off but fans were livid.

The effort that it took to get tickets for my daughter in Cardiff, I would have been absolutely fuming!

DD20 went to All Points East on Friday and got pushed around by men in the crowd. Why can’t people just enjoy the music without barging everyone? Not a mosh pit either.